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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Vermillion on September 11, 2000, 09:39:00 AM
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Ok, 1.04 is all over except for the cleanup work (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) So lets start the wild speculation for 1.05!!
Here is what we know. 1.05 will center around "the Navy".
So what do you think will be the new aircraft or vehicles added in the next version? Remember that PTO is a probably a good choice. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
My bet:
F6F Hellcat (already have Zeke, and F4U, so its the most famous late war carrier fighter that we dont' have)
HellDiver or Dauntless (we need a torpedo/dive bomber to sink those nice shiny new CV's and the TBF has been done to death)
Kate (need a IJN counterpart & the kate can torp/bomb where the Val can only bomb)
and the suprise entry
Ki-67 "Peggy" (outstanding late war Japanese medium bomber, that fills both the Japanese bomber role, and was also an excellent historical torpedo aircraft)
So whats your bet?
And remember to stay on topic. This isn't a "I want XXX, my favorite aircraft". Its a "what do you think will be added in 1.05" thread (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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ME-163 Komet.
To deal with 30K+ buffers (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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-Rebel
JG2 "Richtofen"
"You Rebel Scum"
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Navy coming, so naval planes...my guesses are:
F6F3 Hellcat. Indisplensable For USNavy
HElldiver. Fits better in latewar period, and has bigger load than Dauntless (but it its UGLY (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif))
TBF Avenger.
For japanese nuts, Judy and Jill.
For german nuts Ju87R2 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) And Ju88's torpedoes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
And Fw190D9 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Ju88C-6
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I'm betting another Jap, er, JPN fighter, like the KI-61 or KI-84, maybe a Betty bomber, or Dinnah.
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Brisfish!!!!
OH. Wait,,,, that's Gnatz's line (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Um.
No other aircraft ideas beyond yours Verm other than maybe the Italian trimotor torpedo carrying bomber or the superb late war Japanese torp plane Ryusei. I doubt we'd get (or need) a Seafire or Sea Hurricane. Any French CV based aircraft were early, early war types. Can't think of what the Italians had for use off hand. The Soviets didn't have anything. And the ME-109 carrier plane would be an early war dog.
How about the RNAF like the Swordfish, Barracuda(?) and Walrus (<GGG> )
We're kind of limited naval aircraft to the IJN, USN and RNAF (and the RNAF had alot of F4F, F6F and F4U's in use)
-Westy
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Hmmm, good list Ram. I bet you are close. F6F for sure.
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Apache
=XO= VMF-323 Death Rattlers
VMF 323 Death Rattlers Web Site (http://home.earthlink.net/~bkapache)
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note: we need aircraft that saw the most service, for scenarios.
[This message has been edited by Nath-BDP (edited 09-11-2000).]
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Pic beneath is hereby nominated to be the first crate to be presented by HTC for next update. And for you Navy people:"SEA-HURRICANE"!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oh Jeez, if I only had a rearview mirror!
Bies
(http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Adventure/5503/ww2planes/huricane.jpg)
And bring the A26 and Hurricane (Mk IIC/D) to AH!!!
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IMO, AH needs more planes that are NOT american. more than half the planeset is US =(.
I would like to see:
German Planes:
He111
Me-110
Stuka
Italian
I dont know much about Italian planes... but i'd like to see 2 more fighters and a bomber or 2.
Fiat Cr. 42
British:
Hurricane (2 models please)
Fairey Swordfish (lol)
Wellington Bomber
Japanese planes:
Ki64
Val
Betty
Russian planes:
La-7
IL-2 Shturmovich (DIE %$#$# flakpanzies!)
And Finnish, Swedish, Swiss, Norwegian planes would also be nice.
Navy planes? Bleagh. Get something OTHER sims dont have first, then get more US planes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Erm...
Wildcat or Hellcat methinks. Also I guess they could do a Seafire considering they must have almost all the data for it already. Avenger could be in with a shout too. F4Us will get arrester hooks.
Anti-ship? Could this now be the time for the Mosquito or the Beaufighter which I would dearly love to have!
I would also love a Hurricane.... sigh... my favourite WWII plane (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I really don't mind as long as we get new things! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Regards
'Nexx'
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If we get the F6f which is very possible. I hope its not the Warbirds F6f. I believe that Funked had a USN comparison of the F4u, F6f and the FW. It was very informative and hopefully HT and Pyro see it. A PBY and to pick up downed pilots would be nice 8). They should add that feature to the C47 also.
Controllable CV group or ships oh, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
We obviously need a torpedo plane.
As long as we have 1 torpedo plane we can do the scenarios!!
Hopefully they make the water portion of the world ready for Submarine action in the future so that the sim will have a fighting chance against WWII online and others.
Frank "Chango" Smaltino FMTO
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Really starting to get the itch for the La-7. Hope it makes the planeset soon. Nothing against the Yak-9U, that plane is amazing now with the new FM. It's just I'm a Lavochkin fan (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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leonid, Kompol
5 GIAP VVS-KA, Knights (http://www.adamfive.com/guerrero)
"Our cause is just. The enemy will be crushed. Victory will be ours."
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He111? Once early war planeset starts sure.
Ju87G with 2x 37mm under wings would be nice.
*drool*
(http://www.hyperscale.com/gallery/images/ju87g22.JPG)
We need this for those '43 US bombing scenarios:
(http://www.hyperscale.com/gallery/images/bf110g2dcc_1.jpg)
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Oh and don't forget about the perk system.
My bet will be that the Me 262 will be in 1.05 as perk.
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I apoligize it was Juzz thathad the comparisons.
Frank "Chango" Smaltino
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Ok Guys
From Start I heard in this Flightsim are Planes that u cant find anywhere else.
So my Idea:
The Polikarpov I-153 "Tchaika". It's a early War Plane of the Soviet Air Force. A Biplane with 4x7.62mm MG and 6 82mm Rockets (in the later War) Short, well build, Retractable Gear and with a top Speed of 450 km/h. It's a beauty. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
And the second, the Il-2 "Sturmovik" (At least a chance against the Ostwind (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) )
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There is one plane that should be included in 1.05 and long awaited it is to.
(http://209.132.65.50/p40/p40-w004.jpg)
P-40 Forever.
Belgar
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And remember to stay on topic. This isn't a "I want XXX, my favorite aircraft". Its a "what do you think will be added in 1.05" thread (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
lol
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Bombers:
G4M2
Tu-2
Attackers:
Il-2
A-26B
Fighters:
Ki-44
La-7
A fella can dream right?
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Axis: Ki-61 or Ki-100, Ki-67, L2D3
Allied: F4F and F6F
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
-Mitsu
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F6F3 Hellcat
SBD Dauntless (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (I like this one)
TBF Avenger
F4F Wildcat
SB2C Helldiver
J2M3 Raiden "Jack" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (I like this one)
A6M3
Kate
Grace (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (I like this one)
Val
USS Enterprise
USS Fletcher (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (I like this one)
IJN Shokaku
IJN Takao (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (I REALLY like this one)
...or some combination thereof.
Sisu
-Karnak
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Sure like karnaks list....
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Beaufighter, my guess...
...and the hellcat and val!
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LJK Kratzer
Geschwader Kommodore, LuftJägerKorps
www.luftjagerkorps.com (http://www.luftjagerkorps.com/)
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Vega Ventura.
Better known as the PV-2 Harpoon.
It's different. It's never been done. It's multi-role. Although bearing no resemblence to the A-20, it was it's naval counter part.
Other then it having night fighting capability (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
You can never get enough twin tails.
- Jig
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Verm, gotta hope it's your bets, tho I'd be happier if it were the dauntless.
Off the ac topic, more strat targs. that applied to open water would make me happier than a pig in, well, you know (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) & not just ports like WB, but dams, bridges, &....
well I guess HTC will get to all the rest of the stuff (power plants, comm. lines & rail, etc.) eventually.
keep up the good work, HT. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Oh & karnak, if HT's gonna name the carriers, I'm sorry, but I will have to have the Yorktown (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
- kidcol2 -
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I would not be surprised to see a Sherman or a T-34 in 1.05.
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Originally posted by Westy:
No other aircraft ideas beyond yours Verm
other than maybe the Italian trimotor torpedo
carrying bomber or the superb late war
Japanese torp plane Ryusei. .......
.............Can't think of what the Italians
had for use off hand.
-Westy
The SM.79 would make a nice addition as an early war medium bomber, and as a torpedo bomber for the whole war.
As to a flattop, see about the Aquila fleet aircraft carrier at:
http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/italy.htm (http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/italy.htm)
4 shafts, 151,000 shp, 30 knots
Crew: 1165 plus 243 air crew
Aircraft: 51
I think the aircraft were to be Re.2000 developed aircraft.
MC202
Dino in Reno
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Originally posted by Westy:
No other aircraft ideas beyond yours Verm
other than maybe the Italian trimotor torpedo
carrying bomber or the superb late war
Japanese torp plane Ryusei. .......
.............Can't think of what the Italians
had for use off hand.
-Westy
The SM.79 would make a nice addition as an early war medium bomber, and as a torpedo bomber for the whole war.
As to a flattop, see about the Aquila fleet aircraft carrier at:
http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/italy.htm (http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/italy.htm)
4 shafts, 151,000 shp, 30 knots
Crew: 1165 plus 243 air crew
Aircraft: 51
I think the aircraft were to be Re.2000 developed aircraft.
MC202
Dino in Reno
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Prob 1 more fighter for JPN and/or CCCP, also another German bomber (likely JuJu flavoured 87 or 88), repainted 88 etc.
maybe another 109, a K(for late war) or an E(BoB theme) or a new airframe in the form of a longnose 190
I would hope to see another 1 or 2 RAF birds like the hurri (not that i'll fly one, but hell, GB is limited at pres)
one or two more ground based toys, maybe even water craft?!?!
a firearm for the pilot so he can shoot at guys on his way down using silk <<< hahaha
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Oberstleutnant LJK_KämpferAs
Kommandeur von II Gruppe
ExecutivOffizier von LuftJägerKorps
www.LuftJagerKorps.com
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There are no Japanese Army aircraft yet, so I guess the Ki-84-Ib(4x20mm!) would be in order.
Since the USN was using their fighters for divebombing later in the war, I don't really think there is much need for dedicated divebombers like the SB2C, so the F6F-5 would round out the USN list for now.
Roll out that three B-20 La-7 for leonid.
(Now for stuff that won't ever happen, but would be nice)
There's still only one axis bomber, so the P1Y1 should make an appearance.
For a ground attack aircraft, one of the following:
Ki-102b
Il-2M3
Beaufighter Mk.21
Ju 88C-6
Chango; They aren't mine. I have posted a link to the comparisons, but they are hosted on funked's squadron's webpage. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Ya know, now that I heard someone mention the "Wimpy" (Wellington) I would like to see that plane modeled...........
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Meine Schwester hat keine kartoffel salat? Du bist eine lustige Buba!!!
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Will be a nice suprise some more italian plane, like G55, SM79 and the Re2005
Sparv out
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A-26B-66-DL (PLEASE!!! This plane is almost required for anti-ship stuff (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) )
SBD-5 Dauntless
TBM-3 (Better than the TBF/M-1 hunk of junk)
F6F-5 Hellcat
F7F-? Tigercat (First US twin-prop carrier
plane)
PBY Catalina
B5N2 "Kate"
D3A2 "Val"
Navalized Ju-87? Stuka
Seafire Mk.II
Some other stuff...
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Rendar
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my choice..... (http://www.geocities.com/boneyfreak/images/x-wing.jpg)
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Ok, How does the F6F compare to the P-47, F4-U and similar US planes?
Seeriously, with 1.04 modified FM, the yanks have several very high performance planes. The F4U is now formidable also in turns, for instance.
Would like to see Russian/German/Japanese planes that really can match them.
The Dora would be nice, and wouldn't have to be perked. Sources have told me it'd roll worse than A8 but otherwise be very similar, climb about the same as A5, but have good high altitude perfomance and be faster than A5 and A8 at the deck. I.e it won't be a do all things plane, and you'll give up some things to gain some others.
Hope my sources ain't wrong.
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StSanta
JG54 "Grünherz"
"If you died a stones throw from your wingie; you did no wrong". - Hangtime
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Hurricane IIc
P-40
F6F
F2M
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IL-2
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short answer no ?
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No carrier fighters (we have A6M and F4Us)
TBF
Helldiver
Judy
Jill
Essex carrier
Iowa Battleship
Elco PT boat
M7 Priest self propelled artillery.
Thats alot of stuff for one update.
Hans.
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FW190D-9
Fiat G55 "Centauro"
F6F Hellcat
Ki84
La-7
Tempest
And then ... pleeeeaaaase ... back to earlier war!
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The Dora would be nice, and wouldn't have to be perked. Sources have told me it'd roll worse than A8 but otherwise be very similar, climb about the same as A5, but have good high altitude perfomance and be faster than A5 and A8 at the deck. I.e it won't be a do all things plane, and you'll give up some things to gain some others.
Hope my sources ain't wrong.
Totally wrong StSanta. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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LOL Nath.
Well, would be nice to see you slug it out with yourself (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Who needs fighting pitbullterriers then? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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StSanta
JG54 "Grünherz"
"If you died a stones throw from your wingie; you did no wrong". - Hangtime
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Yep, I'm sure we'll see carrier fighters. The finest of them all was Brewster Buffalo.
The finnish export model, of course. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Camo
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Camouflage
XO, Lentolaivue 34
www.muodos.fi/LLv34 (http://www.muodos.fi/LLv34)
Brewster into AH!
"The really good pilots use their superior judgement to keep them out of situations
where they might be required to demonstrate their superior skill."
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I would not be surprised to see a Sherman or a T-34 in 1.05.
They would be fine additions. I remember HTC stating that tank modeling will be rewritten before they add new tanks. If they do ship modeling for next versions I doubt they will have time to write tank part also.
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jochen
Kids today! Why can't they fetishize Fascist military hardware like normal people?
Ladysmith wants you forthwith to come to her relief
Burn your briefs you leave for France tonight
Carefully cut the straps of the booby-traps and set the captives free
But don't shoot 'til you see her big blue eyes
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SM.79
Add torps for the Ju88
Hellcat
Ki-84
Various carrier borne torpedoe bombers
Some faster tank
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Rubs crystal ball...
Wildcat....
Kate
Carrier
bonus late anounced for con---
A6m2, M4A3(75)..
In order to achieve this they would allready have to have the majority of it done. I suspect right now they are removing the 76mm gun from the sherman and fine tuning the drop characteristics of the Jpn air drop torpedo.
I predict that all fighters will be carrier capable,
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me410
me110
k100
betty bomb.
baka bomb (for HO type mentalities)
mosquito
f6f
TBF
some type of nip. torp/bomb plane
me163 (with alot of restrictions associated with it)
IL-2
la7
x-mas list (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Tempest is completely and utterly un-needed. The new Typhoon seems to be virtually a Tempest, either that or the Tempest was the best fighter of WWII...
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By many accounts the Tempest WAS the best fighter of WWII when BELOW 17,000ft.
Sisu
-Karnak
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I see a lot of people looking for the Wildcat. Why? The MA and main focus of AH seams to be late war aircraft (with few notable exceptions). The Wilcat would be less usefull than the c.202. Everything the wildcat could do the zeke could do better. Except maybe dive...
Also, I would like to see only planes with arrestor hooks able to land on them. Billy Mitchel raids would be one way trips... which of course means we need a B25 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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SpyHawk,
The thread was not about what we wanted, but rather what we were pridicting that 1.05 would bring.
Navy is coming, so the F4F is a reasonable guess.
We do have some '41 aircraft already, the C.202, Spitfire MkVb, Bf109F-4 and Ju88A-4. F4F wouldn't be entirely new ground.
Sisu
-Karnak
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If I had to predict...
F6F (F4F is too early war for this current set)
TBF
Seafire
Val and Kate (Judys and Jills were not THAT much better, even tho they're Late War versions of these two mainstays)
Zeke 3
(going out on a limb here) 109T: Hitech "zigs" and adds the rare Navalized 109, plus gets most of the work done for a 109E at the same time!!!!
Ki44
La7 or Yak3 (dare I say both?)
Sturmovik IL2 (a must if you're gonna have Ostwinds trundling around on the ground)
Me110G
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Bristol Beaufighter
He-219 Uhu
FW190D9
the "Tony" (radial version) <G>
Griffon
P-61
Am I dreaming or what? <G>
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Sea Fury
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Me-410 with BK-5 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Staga:
Me-410 with BK-5 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I just fly Axis so any LW plane will make me happy....but
The allies should have the P-40. If I was going to lower myself to those allied standards I'd fly the 40 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Wingnut
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I think the next big Navy a/c will be the Bearcat, followed by the Sea Fury.
Really...
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I think the next aircraft added will be Naval:
F6F-5 Hellcat
Avenger
Jill
(Already have the George and Zeke..will be Naval Zeke added)
And possibly a late model P-40 and either a Ki-61 or Ki-100 (But I would like the Ki-44 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) )
(http://www.devildogs.com/vmf111/sdsig2.gif)
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190d9
spit14
so we LW's have our chances again.
btw, when we will be again better than US iron, are the allieds again porking us with
a "better" FM?
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seafire tempest are beter planes like
nancyfire 14
eh about dora well , will be nice
ithink if navy come they ad some japanes dive bomber and torpedoplane probably avanger ?for US
eh Catalina will be nice no sim whta modelet this plane -))
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F8F and Seafury ... So we are going toward KAH = Korean Aces High? LOL
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Don't forget the F7F.
We're not going KAH, we are going for humor. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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F6F-5, TBF, Dauntless, VAL, G4M, Kate
For those who argue against adding the F6F because of "too many US planes", Gimmie a break. In you're unfailing support of "Axis" planes, you overlooking the big picture. You should realize that a "Naval" addition without the Hellcat would be totaly incomplete. It would be unrealistic for any naval scenario for it to not be added. the -5 is latewar enough to compete with the rest of the planeset in MA as well. If i remember right, the F6F was the most produced naval fighter of the war. I doubt the F4F will be added as it's an obsolete design compared to the A6M5. P-40 would be nice, but until they dedicate an entire release to the "early war" i doubt we'll see any of those planes.
For you anti-cannon hawg peeps, don't give arrestor hooks to the -1C's (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
With the above planes, added with naval forces, you can recreate, and generate totaly new and different scenarios from marine fighter groups (I.E. Blacksheep Squadron, VMF-214) to fleet engagements.
IMHO well rounded, and a benefit to all.
I'd like to see a KI-61 added too, but, i don't see it coming in this version (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
(Donning Asbestos Underwear)
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Hamish,
You realize that there are aircraft that are neither US nor Axis. That was a pretty rude thing to say.
I think that the F6F-3 or 5 will be in the next release, but please lets not embarass ourselves by claiming that it is either American or Axis. The Russians and British fought hard as well, and in their own aircraft.
Sisu
-Karnak
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Harpoon. We need more multi-role planes...
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
- Jig
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Is AH sloooowly becoming domintated by US aircraft? I think that it would be good to feature a wider spread of aircraft from other nations. The main thing that stops me getting an AH account is the certain lack of variety - just my HO, but there you go. Or is AH going to feature permanent historical arenas where only certain aircraft fly? (A dumb newbie question, I know, but I'm just wondering...)
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Batleships, destroyers escorters and aircarier like a ultimate PERK stuf !!
eh somesubmarines ? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
) they will ad 1 LW plane and some 2 Soviet plane also
i thing (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Jerry, I think your way off on the "US Bias" thing, at least as it pertains to this future release.
Did you know the UK also flew F6F's? (And F4F, and F4U's, and ... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) )
If your doing a Naval version it pretty much leaves out the Russians, Germans, Italians, and other small countries aircraft.
So that leaves you with the US, Japan, and Britain to a lesser extent, in the PAC Theater. Yes, I know Carriers and Escort Carriers were used somewhat in the Atlantic and Mediterranean, but they were not historically significant compared to the PAC.
So if you look at PAC Theater CV capable fighters, the glaring omission from AH is the F6F.
Now I do agree with you that I would have preffered to see a Japanese Torpedo Bomber (which we may still get) over the TBF, but again it was an obvious choice.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Okay then, I rephrase that a bit: doesn't it seem that AH is being slooowly dominated by Allied aircraft? Or, isn't it slowly being transformed into a Pacific-based sim? With the variety of Soviet an German aircraft to use, it doesn't seem like much attention is being paid to those theatres. Lol - perhaps I'm just fed up with the MA...? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Jerry,
How is it being Pacific dominated?
We have 4 (N1K2, A6M5b, F4U-1A, F4U-1C), soon to be 6(F6F-5, TBF), Pacific aircraft.
The last release, 1.04, added the Lancaster MkIII, Ju88A-4 and Ostwind. None of those are Pacific aircraft (or even American, for that matter).
The 1.03 series added the Fw190A-5, Yak-9U, A6M5b Zero, P-47D-25, P-47D-30 and M3. Yes, quite a bit of American stuff, but only one Pacific aircraft, the Zero.
What is wrong with Pacific aircraft anyways? We have several Japanese players and many American players like the Pacific theatre anyways, flying either American or Japanese aircraft.
I agree that it would be nice to see more Russian, Italian, Japanese and British aircraft, but IT is primarily an American market. They need to make money.
Sisu
-Karnak
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I didn't say it was. And there's nothing wrong with a Pacific Theatre. Put it this way - it'd be nice if we had more theatre-specific and/or period specific permanent arenas. MA is more of a mish-mash which is starting to look like it's leaning in in one direction. Sure, it'd need a few more planes, but I think it would open the game out more and perhaps make HT some more cash. This may be even more of an issue once WW2 On-line is released. Variety is the spice of life (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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In my opinion the politicaly correct solution would be this:
US planes: F6f
UK planes: Hawker Sea Hurricane Mk.IIc
German planes: Ju88 with torpedoes
Japanese planes: Aichi B7A2 Ryusei
Italian planes: Sm.79 torpedo bomber
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Originally posted by Karnak:
Hamish,
You realize that there are aircraft that are neither US nor Axis. That was a pretty rude thing to say.
I think that the F6F-3 or 5 will be in the next release, but please lets not embarass ourselves by claiming that it is either American or Axis. The Russians and British fought hard as well, and in their own aircraft.
Sisu
-Karnak
My apologies if i offended you karnak, it was unintentional, i wasn't trying to claim it was either "U.S." or "Axis" i was attempting in a poor manner to direct that toward the insessant (it seems) whining about too many "U.S. Planes" and not enough "Axis" planes. I am fully aware that it was more than just the U.S. in WWII, but, how prevalent were the naval firepower of the brits or the russians? i am thinking pretty miniscule. The most prevalent use of Naval power was in the Pacific theater by the IJN/USN. and that means USN/IJN planes added. Although i may have to agree with the guys above who mentioned the SM.79, never been done to my knowledge before and would definately be a neat addition but i think it would be dogmeat in this arena.
Hamish
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Funny - this is what I like about the AH community - sometimes asking simple questions is seen as 'whining'. Very constructive (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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There was a variant of the Il-2 that saw combat that carried a torpedo (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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leonid, Kompol
5 GIAP VVS-KA, Knights (http://www.adamfive.com/guerrero)
"Our cause is just. The enemy will be crushed. Victory will be ours."
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So, how on Earth did C-Hog find its way before the so much needed Hellcat ?!?!
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Hristo, because we already had the F4U-1D, and because the F4U-1C was the easiest varient to do from ANY of the planes available, so it increased the number of aircraft in the game with the least amount of work.
It is really amusing (seriously, I start laughing at every -1C whine anymore) to see how much the -1C irritates the Luftwaffe crowd. I mean really... I fly it just the same as a Fw190. Whats the big difference? Because it is American and can do the exact same job as the Fw190A8 ? Hell, I would have thought that 190 pilots would have loved the thing. Its right up their alley. The biggest difference is that its blue instead of gray. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Oh wait.... I get it, the -1C means that people OTHER than the Luftwaffe gets to fly big tough fast 4 cannon birds (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) Ahhh....
Leonid, you ever seen the P-38 varient (testbed aircraft?) that could drop a torpedo? I have a book that shows a series of 4 or 5 pics of it making a torpedo run. Would be fun (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Vermillion
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