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Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: Citabria on September 12, 2000, 04:44:00 AM
p38 has 4000lb bomb capacity
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: juzz on September 12, 2000, 05:31:00 AM
B-17G, B-26B and Ju 88A-4(1000kg on inner wing racks) too.
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: funked on September 12, 2000, 05:54:00 AM
250 kg on each wing of Fw 190 too.
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: RAM on September 12, 2000, 06:01:00 AM
Fw190A8, too!!!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) SC1000 2200lbs bomb in center rack...  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Oh, and maybe better...a G8 to carry more bombs in wing racks ,too   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 09-12-2000).]
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: StSanta on September 12, 2000, 08:37:00 AM
Yowsa

Those extra bombs would come in handy for us A8 jabo types.

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JG54 "Grünherz"
"If you died a stones throw from your wingie; you did no wrong". - Hangtime
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: Jochen on September 12, 2000, 09:46:00 AM
Centerline SC1800 for the Fw 190A-8! (1800 kg or 4000lbs)

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Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: fd ski on September 12, 2000, 01:21:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Jochen:
Centerline SC1800 for the Fw 190A-8! (1800 kg or 4000lbs)

And make sure it can climb at 6000 fpm with it !!!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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aka. Wing Commander fd-ski
Northolt Wing
1st Polish Fighter Wing
303 (Polish) Squadron "Kosciuszko" RAF
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF
315 (Polish) Squadron "City of Deblin" RAF

Turning 109s and 190s into scrap metal since 1998

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Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: Citabria on September 12, 2000, 02:17:00 PM
HELP!!!

My Thread has been Hijacked!

they are taking it to Cuba
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: Karnak on September 12, 2000, 03:04:00 PM
Cit,
Did the P-38 ever actually carry 2 2000lb bombs on strike missions?

If so, wow.

Sisu
-Karnak
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: Rebel on September 12, 2000, 04:26:00 PM
Karnak-

     The 2,000 lb bomb I heard was designed for the purpose of taking out Tigers  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: Nath-BDP on September 12, 2000, 05:32:00 PM
Tigers? why not just use a springfield? 2000 lb seems like overkill.
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: Jigster on September 12, 2000, 06:21:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Nath-BDP:
Tigers? why not just use a springfield? 2000 lb seems like overkill.

There are some gun camera films from the 357 where two P-51's drop their single thousand pounders (other pylon had a DT) and watched as it bounced off the Tiger and wasted a small hotel next to it. Tiger survived unscathed from both bomb blasts.

C Yeager mentions it in his book, Anderson has also recalled that particular mission  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)

Besides the trick would be to knock out a platoon of Tigers with one good drop  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

- Jig
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: Fishu on September 12, 2000, 08:50:00 PM
Didn't they also use those 2000lb bombs on the rides with that glass nosed P-38 which had norden in it?

And yes.. Ju-88 must have its 1000kg bombs in inner racks.
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: juzz on September 13, 2000, 01:43:00 AM
DROOP SNOOT!!!
 (http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/p38-16.jpg)

fd-ski; 6000ft is probably the length of runway a Fw 190G carrying a 1800kg bomb would need to get airborne.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: RAM on September 13, 2000, 06:22:00 AM
LOL!! that was the reason why they took off from mud and snowy fields on Eastern front?...

6000feet? ROFL  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: fd ski on September 13, 2000, 07:30:00 AM
No no no juzz... u got that wrong !!!

Fw190A8 with 17 20mm guns and 32 30mm cannons and extra ammo carring 4000lb bomb could take off at less the 500 yards thanks to B1T3M3 innjection to the engine that gave it extra 10000 hp for periods up to 70 days !!

This fact was covered up by allies after the war, but infact, Fw190 was and still is the best fighter ever and using B1T3M3 injection can easily take on F16s and Mig 29s !!!

Here are some stats:
Speed on the deck: 1200mph
Speed at alt ( 50000 ft ) 2500mph
Climbrate: without B1T3M3 system - 5000 ft/m
with B1T3M3 - 25000 ft/m.
Turnrate was better then spitfire thanks to 1W15HUD3D device.

While others might deny it, Fw190 was and still is the best fighter ever.

There... take that !!!
 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Bartlomiej Rajewski
aka. Wing Commander fd-ski
Northolt Wing
1st Polish Fighter Wing
303 (Polish) Squadron "Kosciuszko" RAF
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF
315 (Polish) Squadron "City of Deblin" RAF

Turning 109s and 190s into scrap metal since 1998

Northolt Wing Headquarters (http://www.raf303.org/northolt/)
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: StSanta on September 13, 2000, 07:33:00 AM
Wow, finally an allied scum who gets it right  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)



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JG54 "Grünherz"
"If you died a stones throw from your wingie; you did no wrong". - Hangtime
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: funked on September 13, 2000, 09:55:00 AM
I'll try to look up the takeoff distance for a 190 with an 1800 kg bomb.  It's astronomical for sure.
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: funked on September 13, 2000, 10:06:00 AM
That was quick.  The Fw 190G that carried 1000kg, 1600kg, and 1800kg bombs required special landing gear struts, wheels, and tires.  Takeoff distance was 1300 m with 1800 kg bomb.

The heaviest load for a standard G-3 or G-8 was 250 kg on each wing and 500 kg on the centerline for 1000 kg total.  Even this configuration caused problems with takeoff distance, operation from unpaved fields, and range.

[This message has been edited by funked (edited 09-13-2000).]
Title: add 2000lb bombs as option to p38 loadout?
Post by: -duma- on September 16, 2000, 03:16:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by RAM:
LOL!! that was the reason why they took off from mud and snowy fields on Eastern front?...

6000feet? ROFL   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Well, according to Funked's figures I get about 4250 feet..