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Title: 11/10/09
Post by: Kazaa on November 08, 2009, 07:47:28 AM
2 days...

Even though Infinity Ward have watered down MW2's online play, I'll still be picking it up Tuesday morning.

(http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs43/f/2009/088/3/0/Modern_Warfare_2_Wallpaper_by_MRblanka.jpg)
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: eagl on November 08, 2009, 08:05:51 AM
That game is about the only immediate incentive I have to upgrade my computer from winXP to win7...  I'd like to get DX10 working for that game and that means I gotta upgrade.

I didn't pre-order though...  $59.99 is fairly steep for me right now.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: gyrene81 on November 08, 2009, 11:22:06 AM
Not even going to waste my time or money.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: lowZX14 on November 08, 2009, 03:34:15 PM
And here I thought you were going to comment on the birthday of the finest fighting force the world has ever seen.
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4743/marineposter6.jpg)

And I'm slightly perterbed that gyrene didn't comment either.  :mad:
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: jay on November 08, 2009, 03:36:16 PM
And here I thought you were going to comment on the birthday of the finest fighting force the world has ever seen.
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4743/marineposter6.jpg)

And I'm slightly perterbed that gyrene didn't comment either.  :mad:

i also thought this was a veterans day post :/
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: gyrene81 on November 08, 2009, 07:17:37 PM
And here I thought you were going to comment on the birthday of the finest fighting force the world has ever seen.
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4743/marineposter6.jpg)

And I'm slightly perterbed that gyrene didn't comment either.  :mad:
LOL...it's been 24 yrs and a lot of alcohol since I got my 214...didn't even register..  :salute <hick> Semper Fi...no wait, thas teewwwussshhday.

Which way to Tun Tavern?  :huh
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Bodhi on November 08, 2009, 07:29:11 PM
It will be on the FedEx truck for me on Tuesday morning.  I am feeling sick the rest of the day!
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: MrMeanie on November 08, 2009, 07:33:34 PM
there will be only 6v6 and 9v9 for selected modes only, in joy this crap game
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Kazaa on November 08, 2009, 07:39:25 PM
there will be only 6v6 and 9v9 for selected modes only, in joy this crap game

I miss 25vs25 on a map no bigger then my street already. :( One random grenade could kill half the enemy team. :O
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: eagl on November 08, 2009, 07:46:04 PM
Random grenades is why I won't be getting this for multiplayer...  My multiplayer skills generally involve cleverly getting killed off with no personal weapons but a grenade launcher, so I respawn with nothing but that grenade launcher.  My tactics evolved around this coincidental pattern (it seems to repeat itself no matter what game I'm playing) so that my primary modus operandi is to charge to the sound of gunfire, shout a warning to my team, and start indiscriminately lobbing grenades into the fight as my teammates scatter.  It's a great disruptive tactic that can turn the tide of battle, but only if my team has some degree of competence and is willing to put up with my limitations.

Most teams do not exhibit this sort of patience, so I'm getting this one for single-player gameplay.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: sluggish on November 08, 2009, 08:00:41 PM
Here I thought this thread was about something completely different..

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Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Spikes on November 08, 2009, 08:17:01 PM
I canceled my pre order. The no dedicated servers is Bull, IW really screwed themselves this time, console isn't the only thing out there. I'd rather just rip it for free and play Single Player.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: zoozoo on November 08, 2009, 08:19:28 PM
im going to FYE at 12 A.M tuesday morning to get my copy
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Kazaa on November 08, 2009, 08:52:10 PM
I canceled my pre order. The no dedicated servers is Bull, IW really screwed themselves this time, console isn't the only thing out there. I'd rather just rip it for free and play Single Player.

haha +! IW shot themselves in the face, they even ejected people out of a conference who asked the question in Q&A.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: branch37 on November 08, 2009, 09:00:45 PM
I thought this was gonna be about Bon Jovi's new album  :uhoh :uhoh
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: trigger2 on November 08, 2009, 11:45:47 PM
Clan and I are boycotting it, no dedicated servers and forcing clans to rent servers individually from IW, well, no thanks, CoD:1, :UO, :2, and :4 are enough. :old:
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: 68Hawk on November 09, 2009, 12:01:13 AM
Forcing you to rent their servers?  Ejecting people from conventions?  I haven't heard any of this.  Does anyone have a new link about all these shenanigans?
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Masherbrum on November 09, 2009, 12:02:53 AM
I canceled my pre order. The no dedicated servers is Bull, IW really screwed themselves this time, console isn't the only thing out there. I'd rather just rip it for free and play Single Player.

I was ramped for this Release until the Server Issue was leaked.    Now, I'm getting Left 4 Dead 2.    Most of AOM (not in here) is getting it.   
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: trigger2 on November 09, 2009, 12:14:30 AM
Forcing you to rent their servers?  Ejecting people from conventions?  I haven't heard any of this.  Does anyone have a new link about all these shenanigans?

http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/10/18/no-dedicated-servers-for-modern-warfare-2-pc-infinity-ward-to-r/

They're not even going to be using PB, they're using "V.A.C."

Edit: For you console gamers, here's the major reason we're up in arms...

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And bring on the death of mods and custom maps, too? The one, major thing that set the PC apart from consoles? The thing keeping people's interest in games like Team Fortress 2 and Counter-Strike Source, while console games with matchmaking are rarely ever played for more than six months? (Halo, Call of Duty, and Gears of War being the exceptions.) Using IWNet will ensure the death of these custom maps and mods that PC gaming is known for.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: branch37 on November 09, 2009, 12:23:23 AM
If the $59.99 for Call of Duty on XBOX 360 wasnt cheaper than the upgrade required for my PC to handle it, i would be getting it on PC  :(
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: L0nGb0w on November 09, 2009, 12:28:50 AM
I'm still gettin it.  It looks pretty and the single player side of the CoD series has always entertained me
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: trigger2 on November 09, 2009, 12:36:46 AM
It looks pretty and the single player side of the CoD series has always entertained me

Good graphics, yeah, system taxing, hell yeah. The graphics though are pretty much CoD:4s with a minor touch up. And the single player? I find it fun, the first time through, the problem afterwords is it just gets so... easy. It's simple to memorize where the next bad guy's gonna jump out of, especially after beating it on veteran difficulty.
Anywho, your money, I just don't find it as good of an investment. ;)
Then again, I still think CoD:UO was BY FAR the best CoD they EVER released, from both a singleplayer AND multiplyer view. [TxM]'s servers, amazing, the no tanks server is always in the worlds top 10 most popular game servers. The skill level it takes to be competitive on some servers is just astronomical, and it's fun to get to that level. Anywho, I'm ranting now. ;)

If any of you have seen me in game, in CoD:4 I'm [s*8].Kinslayer on :UO I'm [TxM]KinSlayer, and on :1, I'm trigger2. ;)
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Plawranc on November 09, 2009, 05:03:59 AM
And here I thought you were going to comment on the birthday of the finest fighting force the world has ever seen.
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4743/marineposter6.jpg)

And I'm slightly perterbed that gyrene didn't comment either.  :mad:

Who? the Australian SAS  :devil  :lol  :salute
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: nirvana on November 09, 2009, 02:31:29 PM
Skip it and go with Left for Dead 2.  You can't be disappointed killing zombies.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Spikes on November 09, 2009, 02:51:21 PM
VAC absolutely sucks, look at CS:S. BF2:BC looks good. Once I found out about the server ordeal I canceled and ordered my computer, and I made the better choice for sure. 193727+ people have signed the petition and over 100 clans, clans have canceled their pre order.

Like I said, I'll download SP because I like the SP missions, even today in COD1, 2, 4 etc. It'd be neat if they made a separate DLC for just SP missions...
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 09, 2009, 08:55:09 PM


Like I said, I'll download SP because I like the SP missions, even today in COD1, 2, 4 etc. It'd be neat if they made a separate DLC for just SP missions...

Thief.


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Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: EskimoJoe on November 09, 2009, 09:30:09 PM
Thief.


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Troll.

Eskimo




 :P
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Kazaa on November 09, 2009, 09:35:22 PM
I get off work at 5:00am, going to have a nap then shoot down P.C World for my copy.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 10, 2009, 04:27:07 AM
Troll.

Eskimo




 :P

Hardly.  He's talking about downloading a pirate version of the game and that makes him a thief.  I'm tired of twits like him that take money from my dinner table because they 'feel entitled' and don't have to pay for a game.


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Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Spikes on November 10, 2009, 06:03:00 AM
Hardly.  He's talking about downloading a pirate version of the game and that makes him a thief.  I'm tired of twits like him that take money from my dinner table because they 'feel entitled' and don't have to pay for a game.


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How are YOU losing money personally? Work for IW or something? If you think my $60 is bad you really ought to take a look at everyone else.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Sol75 on November 10, 2009, 07:29:49 AM
Due to stores not allowing games to be returned, I tend to DL the torrent, try the game for a day or 2 (Demo's usually too limited for me to see if I REALLY like it or not), then either go buy it, or delete it from my HD.  I think game companies should release the full version of the game, just time limit it, then I wouldn't have to search torrent sites ;)

Ack-Ack, as a person involved in the gaming industry, I would love to get your feedback on this..
Sol
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: branch37 on November 10, 2009, 08:15:33 AM
if you dont want to buy it go to blockbuster and rent it.  Provided they have it.  :aok
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Viperius on November 10, 2009, 09:57:55 AM
Hardly.  He's talking about downloading a pirate version of the game and that makes him a thief.  I'm tired of twits like him that take money from my dinner table because they 'feel entitled' and don't have to pay for a game.


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The Problem is today's games have hardly the quality and longetivity the old ones had, its all about making a quick buck for you and once its been bought your pretty much on your own, no patches or even better close down the devstudio to decrease costs. The continuing trend aswell is the reduction of features like Lan play and that silly addition of online authentication in order to play offline.

Also paying customers usually are the ones suffering from DVD protection while the illegal versions run without a hitch.
If the games were better people would buy them instead of getting them of the net to try them out first before spending their hard earned cash on yet another bug infested p.o.s software that might even damage your system with its "protection".

R.I.P Dynamix
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 10, 2009, 12:22:23 PM
How are YOU losing money personally? Work for IW or something? If you think my $60 is bad you really ought to take a look at everyone else.

Because I work in the gaming industry and piracy affects us as a whole.  Why do you feel entitled to steal, why not just pay for it?


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Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Sol75 on November 10, 2009, 12:51:18 PM
if you dont want to buy it go to blockbuster and rent it.  Provided they have it.  :aok

Cant rent PC games, and I dont do consoles.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: gyrene81 on November 10, 2009, 12:53:49 PM
Because I work in the gaming industry and piracy affects us as a whole.  Why do you feel entitled to steal, why not just pay for it?

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You don't think $60 a copy for a crap video game is piracy? In the last 2 years there have been a lot of "highly anticipated" $60 a crack massive flops released that end up as $10 Walmart specials in less than a year. And they publishers continue to push their junk out to the public without regard to the actual value...and that's not called piracy?

I haven't seen one publisher offer a refund for any of the junk games they have released.


Many of the companies have learned to protect their junk by not allowing "cracked" games to be updated/patched, locked out of multiplayer mode on dedicated servers or even playable after a period of time.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 10, 2009, 01:57:21 PM
You don't think $60 a copy for a crap video game is piracy? In the last 2 years there have been a lot of "highly anticipated" $60 a crack massive flops released that end up as $10 Walmart specials in less than a year. And they publishers continue to push their junk out to the public without regard to the actual value...and that's not called piracy?

I haven't seen one publisher offer a refund for any of the junk games they have released.

The high price of console games aren't a result of the developers wanting to charge more money, there is a $10-$15 levied on developers by Microsoft and Sony, which is carried over in the cost.  That's why PC games are less expensive in general than console games.  Regardless of the price, it still isn't a valid excuse to steal.

If you don't want to get saddled with a less than stellar game, do not buy it at launch.  Wait a couple of weeks until reviews come out and then make an informed decision on whether or not you want to purchase that title. 

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Many of the companies have learned to protect their junk by not allowing "cracked" games to be updated/patched, locked out of multiplayer mode on dedicated servers or even playable after a period of time.

Again, still not a valid excuse to pirate and steal games.  Continue to make excuses to make stealing a little more easier on the soul but it's still stealing regardless. 

The ones that pay the price for piracy isn't the publishing house, it's the studio that developed the game...you know the programmers, testers, artists and the like.  It's them that take the hit in the wallet, but hell, what do you care, right?  You're too busy enjoying the game you just stole.


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Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Spikes on November 10, 2009, 02:18:43 PM
Because I work in the gaming industry and piracy affects us as a whole.  Why do you feel entitled to steal, why not just pay for it?


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I don't feel entitled, I'd pay for it in a heartbeat and have had it pre ordered since June, but just recently my computer crashed and I had to drop $600 dollars on a new computer (Wasn't worth upgrading the older one). Later on I will probably buy it so I can test out the multiplayer (sadly only 9v9) but I don't have the funds ATM to keep the pre order.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: trigger2 on November 10, 2009, 06:49:16 PM
Because I work in the gaming industry and piracy affects us as a whole.  Why do you feel entitled to steal, why not just pay for it?
ack-ack

You do realize with the number of people boycotting this game (not counting the 100+ clans), that PROFIT losses for IW are running at about $12m? There's more than one thing that affects the pay, because I'm boycotting it, does that make me a bad person? Using your logic, it does.

Trig
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Motherland on November 10, 2009, 07:48:57 PM
You do realize with the number of people boycotting this game (not counting the 100+ clans), that PROFIT losses for IW are running at about $12m? There's more than one thing that affects the pay, because I'm boycotting it, does that make me a bad person? Using your logic, it does.

Trig
So you're saying that not buying something is the same as stealing it? :huh
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 10, 2009, 07:55:33 PM
You do realize with the number of people boycotting this game (not counting the 100+ clans), that PROFIT losses for IW are running at about $12m? There's more than one thing that affects the pay, because I'm boycotting it, does that make me a bad person? Using your logic, it does.

Trig

Are you dense or just play on idiot on TV?  How can one compare boycotting a product with stealing it?  

First off, the "official" MW2 "boycott" petition has only 15,359 signatures with a potential sales loss of no more than a $1 million USD and at $60 bucks a pop, Activision will recoup any losses from those "boycotting" the game.  I have no idea where you get the "$12 million" figure but I have a feeling you pulled it out of where your head usually resides.  

Also, the majority that are protesting and threatening to boycott the game are doing so because of the price it's being sold at on the PC (most of the boycotters are PC users), they are upset because they have to pay console prices for a game that is usually $15 to $10 cheaper on a PC.

The clans that are threatening to boycott the game due to lack of dedicated servers are far lower in number than those that are boycotting it due to the price.  In any event, any loss of potential revenue from these two groups will easily be made up by the higher price of the game.

However, I do sympathize with the U.K. gamers as they are getting screwed over again by paying higher prices than any other region.  In my opinion, their ire is valid while the others I chalk up to being nothing but a bunch of little whiners.

So will the boycott even make Activision wince?  Hell no.  The boycotters remind me of the ant in a story that is screwing an elephant and then asking if it hurts because he's too big.


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Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: 68ZooM on November 10, 2009, 08:18:12 PM
The Video game industry has no regs to protect the consumer only the manufacture, The Consumer (us) can only go off of what the reviewers say about the games, or from friends Etc.  Then we go out and spend a hell of alot of money on these games $60 new releases , were all excited hurrying home, the anticipation of playing it mounds, you put the game in (either PC or Console) AND the game totally blows, now you just wasted your money on a crap game, cant return it , What take it to gamestop and trade it in for 1/4 of what you just paid? like i say THEY screw the consumer.
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 10, 2009, 08:41:05 PM
The Video game industry has no regs to protect the consumer only the manufacture, The Consumer (us) can only go off of what the reviewers say about the games, or from friends Etc.  Then we go out and spend a hell of alot of money on these games $60 new releases , were all excited hurrying home, the anticipation of playing it mounds, you put the game in (either PC or Console) AND the game totally blows, now you just wasted your money on a crap game, cant return it , What take it to gamestop and trade it in for 1/4 of what you just paid? like i say THEY screw the consumer.

Not sure if Gamestop still does it but like most retail brick and mortar stores, they usually will give 3-5 days to return the game after purchase for a full refund if you don't like the game.  However, some stores are putting up some restrictions because it was found that this was one of the ways pirates were making illegal copies of the game.  They'd buy the game, burn copies and make ISO's and then return the game the next day for a full refund.


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Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Sol75 on November 10, 2009, 09:09:28 PM
Not sure if Gamestop still does it but like most retail brick and mortar stores, they usually will give 3-5 days to return the game after purchase for a full refund if you don't like the game.  However, some stores are putting up some restrictions because it was found that this was one of the ways pirates were making illegal copies of the game.  They'd buy the game, burn copies and make ISO's and then return the game the next day for a full refund.


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Understandable on thier part, however, since I know of No stores which allow a return of an opened PC game, I am not sure that this policy has not wound up encouraging piracy, rather than to help squash it..  Again, I am speaking only of PC gaming here... Piracy will unfortunately always be an issue.. would it not be better to cater to those of us who WILL be paying for the software, by allowing us to at least return it for an exchange if we find it crappy?  Not really the dev or publisher's problem, more the store's, but if the publisher and devs are confident in thier product, they would not mind the stores permitting returns, since the vast majority would be bought and kept, not copied and returned.

(BTW I have a wife who is an aspiring recording artist, so intellectual property is a HUGE thing in my house as well, anything we d/l to try, be it music, or software, we buy or delete within a few days)

Sol
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: eagl on November 10, 2009, 10:10:26 PM
I think I've decided to not wait until I have time to go to a store, or even wait for shipping.  I'm just going to download it the second I have time to go get it.
















I use steam
Title: Re: 11/10/09
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 10, 2009, 10:25:13 PM
I think I've decided to not wait until I have time to go to a store, or even wait for shipping.  I'm just going to download it the second I have time to go get it.

I use steam

What I think is BS for those that purchase and download from Steam is that you have to wait until Friday to have it unlocked so you can play it.  Honestly, I do not see any valid reason why Valve is shafting its digital download customers like that.


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