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Title: There be water on the moon..
Post by: soda72 on November 13, 2009, 01:30:12 PM
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Nasa's experiment last month to find water on the Moon was a major success, US scientists have announced.

sweet....  some good news for a change..

 :x

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8359744.stm


Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: VonMessa on November 13, 2009, 01:32:31 PM
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Smileys/party_42.gif)



Oh the REAL moon?  Sorry   :D

Good news   :aok
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Post by: Treize69 on November 13, 2009, 01:42:37 PM
Call me when they find scotch up there.
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Post by: Simba on November 13, 2009, 02:10:36 PM
Prefer Coke in my rum.

 ;)
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Post by: oakranger on November 13, 2009, 02:13:56 PM
EXCELLENT!   Now if we can harvest it.
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Post by: Bosco123 on November 13, 2009, 02:14:17 PM
That could prove the theory about an asteroid hit the side of the Earth, and created the moon. That would unlock a whole bunch of stuff for us.

<S>
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: stroker71 on November 13, 2009, 02:34:51 PM
If all the water on our planet came from outer space (experts say) then logic says there is water on every planet.  I know that water may freeze and burn off depending on the planet location from the sun...Just saying DUH!  Ok to rephrase: any planet struck by frozen balls from outerspace should have some trace of water...right?

DuHasst
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: druski85 on November 13, 2009, 03:49:47 PM
Yea, it makes sense that it would be in the craters for more than one reason. 

Apparently Pink Floyd was on to something.   :lol
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Post by: allaire on November 13, 2009, 04:12:50 PM
DuHasst wouldn't it also be true that you would have trace amounts of water If you were hit with.... yeah gonna stop this right here,.
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: OOZ662 on November 13, 2009, 07:17:19 PM
Seeing as the moon is apparently a piece of the Earth plopped off by an impact during the formation of the planet, it would make sense.
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Post by: CAP1 on November 13, 2009, 10:34:51 PM
sweet....  some good news for a change..

 :x

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8359744.stm




they miss-aimed. they thought they were on the moon, when in reality, they were in the sahara.  :rofl :neener: :noid
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: gpwurzel on November 13, 2009, 10:39:50 PM
Would have thought this was obvious, how else ya gonna swim in the Sea of Tranquility???


Coat - check.

Door open - Check


Oooh, is that my taxi??
 ;)

Wurzel
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: Ruler2 on November 13, 2009, 10:42:27 PM
If there's water on the moon,someone MUST have needed to pee when they were there, every body of water on Earth has pee in it, and if scientists think the Moon is a Part of Earth...  Maybe we'll find a Lunar Flu! lol
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Post by: Strip on November 13, 2009, 10:43:59 PM
Do any of you even realize what this means for find life on other planets?
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Post by: Ruler2 on November 13, 2009, 10:46:54 PM
I know, if there's water on the moon, we can only believe that there's at least SOME on the other moons that look like the Moon.
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: CAP1 on November 13, 2009, 10:56:18 PM
Do any of you even realize what this means for find life on other planets?

i've believed there HAS to be other life out there somewhere, for almost as long as i can remember. why you ask? well, i'll tell ya why.


because if mankind is the best that the Big Guy upstairs can do, then the entire universe is doomed.
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Post by: Motherland on November 13, 2009, 11:04:15 PM
Do any of you even realize what this means for find life on other planets?
No because we've known there's lot's of water throughout the solar system on various moons of planets like Jupiter and Saturn for a while.
I don't see what a small amount of water on our own moon means for that pursuit.

Such as Europa

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Europa-moon.jpg/275px-Europa-moon.jpg)


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/PIA01130_Interior_of_Europa.jpg/180px-PIA01130_Interior_of_Europa.jpg)
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: Buzzard7 on November 13, 2009, 11:13:42 PM
Even with conservative numbers they have suggested at least 10,000 life bearing planets per galaxy.
Between 10-100 of those would have intelligent life.
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Post by: Dadsguns on November 14, 2009, 12:05:28 AM
So its really not made of cheese???   :headscratch:
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Post by: Saxman on November 14, 2009, 12:55:55 AM
Seeing as the moon is apparently a piece of the Earth plopped off by an impact during the formation of the planet, it would make sense.

Yyyyeah. Not like whatever water was on earth at the time the Earth got side-swiped wouldn't have been instantly vaporized by the energy of the collision at the time.

That, and the timeline of this theory places the impact during the time while Earth was still a semi-molten ball of "liquid hot mag-ma."
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Post by: druski85 on November 14, 2009, 01:30:56 AM
Yyyyeah. Not like whatever water was on earth at the time the Earth got side-swiped wouldn't have been instantly vaporized by the energy of the collision at the time.

That, and the timeline of this theory places the impact during the time while Earth was still a semi-molten ball of "liquid hot mag-ma."

Yup.  That thur water came from hits taken long after the moon was it's own entity. 
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Post by: OOZ662 on November 14, 2009, 01:41:24 AM
Tell me, what would the water vapor from that impact that came within the gravity field of the newly formed moon do? :)
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Post by: Die Hard on November 14, 2009, 02:01:47 AM
Tell me, what would the water vapor from that impact that came within the gravity field of the newly formed moon do? :)

Fly off into space on the solar wind.
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: Curlew on November 14, 2009, 02:10:15 AM
great, now lets bottle it and sell it for $100,000 a pint
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: OOZ662 on November 14, 2009, 06:10:01 AM
Fly off into space on the solar wind.

Sure, sure.
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Post by: Xtrepid on November 14, 2009, 07:51:13 AM
great, now lets bottle it and sell it for $100,000 a pint

I can see the "bottled water" companies fighting over the rights... :rolleyes:

Guess it will save on transportation costs for the Lunar Hilton.

X :salute
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 14, 2009, 08:14:57 AM
Even with conservative numbers they have suggested at least 10,000 life bearing planets per galaxy.
Between 10-100 of those would have intelligent life.


That is a point of contention.  Ever hear of the Rare Earth hypothesis?  It might be that life (systems of increasing free energy) is common throughout the universe, but that almost all of it is microbial life.

We tend to think of the human being as the end-point of a linear process of progressive evolution, but we are anything but.  The more I learn about biology, the more we seem to be a result of fortunate blunders characterized by inefficiency and suboptimal adaptations...all of which is inversely proportional to complexity.  The more simple you are, the better adapted you are to changing conditions, and your adaptations to the environment are more likely efficient and optimal.  There's a lot to be learned from bacteria. :)
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Post by: Die Hard on November 14, 2009, 08:36:05 AM
Sure, sure.

That's what it would do. Same reason the moon has a negligible atmosphere.
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Post by: LLv34_Snefens on November 14, 2009, 09:06:40 AM
LOL, seeing the short video clip, I thought to myself: "Squeekers are everywhere"
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Post by: Nilsen on November 14, 2009, 09:45:44 AM
Do any of you even realize what this means for find life on other planets?

Hoping they can take care of themselves. Dont want them to come here for free healthcare and welfare checks. Dont need no stinking out-of-work aliens.
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Post by: CyranoAH on November 14, 2009, 09:58:20 AM
What? Water on the moon? Then there can be pirates!! Yarrr!!
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Post by: Treize69 on November 14, 2009, 10:00:43 AM
No, WHALERS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hKbl4AeqpM
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Post by: Serenity on November 14, 2009, 03:04:11 PM
That is a point of contention.  Ever hear of the Rare Earth hypothesis?  It might be that life (systems of increasing free energy) is common throughout the universe, but that almost all of it is microbial life.

We tend to think of the human being as the end-point of a linear process of progressive evolution, but we are anything but.  The more I learn about biology, the more we seem to be a result of fortunate blunders characterized by inefficiency and suboptimal adaptations...all of which is inversely proportional to complexity.  The more simple you are, the better adapted you are to changing conditions, and your adaptations to the environment are more likely efficient and optimal.  There's a lot to be learned from bacteria. :)

The popular theory amongst my intelligent friends is that life in general is particularly rare because, despite the fact that there are millions of planets, there are only so few in the proper place relative to the center of their galaxy to support life. Earth just happens to be in EXACTLY the right spot for something or other to line up and not melt us or something silly like that. I'll update this post to make sense when the codiene wears off, or however you spell that...
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Post by: LLv34_Snefens on November 14, 2009, 06:56:23 PM
That would be the Drake equation Serenity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 14, 2009, 07:03:18 PM
I thought the Drake equation indicates the prevalence of life, while serenity is saying the opposite.
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Post by: MORAY37 on November 14, 2009, 08:30:59 PM
I thought the Drake equation indicates the prevalence of life, while serenity is saying the opposite.

The Drake equation does exactly that Anax. 

I personally believe we will find, at some point, that life is everywhere there is water.  It makes sense.  We've seen organic molecules in so many places at this point, that it would be hard NOT to find life. 

I also think that eukaryotic (multi-cellular, nucleic) life is sparse, and that prokaryotes (mostly single cell, without membrane bound organelles) will be found in abundance.  If you look at our own planet's biotope, most species are unicellular and microscopic prokaryotes.

It would only be logical to expect that trend to continue throughout the "neighborhood".
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: Ghosth on November 14, 2009, 08:55:29 PM
Ahh but the moon DOES have an atmosphere. However because it has much less gravity, it has a lot less atmosphere.

Even if that water turns to gas on impact, is blown into space. Its still in the same orbit. And the vast majority of it will get sucked back down the gravity well over time.
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: Die Hard on November 15, 2009, 06:19:01 AM
The moon has a negligible atmosphere. While the moon has one sixth of the Earth's gravity (0.165 G to be exact) its atmosphere is less than one hundred trillionth the density of the Earth's atmosphere. Solar winds are stripping the atmosphere off atom by atom because the moon doesn't have a magnetic field strong enough to protect it.
Title: Re: There be water on the moon..
Post by: Simba on November 15, 2009, 09:09:51 PM
"because if mankind is the best that the Big Guy upstairs can do, then the entire universe is doomed."

Supposed to have made man in his own image, according to the fairy story, so what's the beef?

 :cool: