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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ruler2 on November 15, 2009, 11:23:34 PM
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All I can say is WOW. I didn't think i would be able to do it with no prior knowledge or experience. I pulled it off, and it's just amazing, XP is DRASTICALLY faster at opening IE and other things, now... I haven't opened much up yet, as I've only been an XP user for about 30 minutes :D . But I've loved every second of it and it makes me wonder more and more how they developed Vista if new technology is supposed to be "better".
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XP is DRASTICALLY faster at opening IE and other things
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Or really make it faster and better by switching to a good Linux distro... (Then you never need the AV/Spyware stuff either)
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Very true, but kiss easy use/maintenance and most of your "instant" gaming goodbye. :D
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I never have to defrag, nothing to maintain, AH and many many modern games run great (using cedega) ALL of the software I will use is on the distro disk, there are so many distros to choose from, you can find many tailored to your exact needs, including gaming. TONS of free software that do ANYTHING under the sun are available.
BTW, I am not a strict Linux user, I also use Win7 - Which is AWESOME! It is also EXPENSIVE. I really believe Win7 is the best thing MS has put out in quite some time, MUCH trimmer than Vista with speed as good as XP, in 64-Bit it beats XP IMHO.
I also run XP (and all MS OSes back to DOS 5) as a virtual machine under Linux when I MUST use a MS specific program - perhaps I could use Wine but Virtual boxes are the way to go for seldom used programs, etc...
I was just pointing out that Linux is a cheap way to get speed and security
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Yes, I haven't found much bad with Win7. Only the lack of flawless drivers for mouse and soundcard, but that's not really an issue brought by the OS, but by the lazy manufacturers.
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I am one of those annoying people that has had no problems at all with Vista. :old:
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my computer came with vista 64 with free upgrade to win 7, just did the upgrade.
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I am one of those annoying people that has had no problems at all with Vista. :old:
Me too.
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my computer came with vista 64 with free upgrade to win 7, just did the upgrade.
So, what's the difference? Good? Bad?
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I am one of those annoying people that has had no problems at all with Vista. :old:
Likewise. However, especially in the case of a laptop upgraded from Vista, Win 7 yields big performance gains. On desktops that I've upgraded the really noticeable performance pickup is in boot times and gaming. I've also had better success with installing legacy software than I had with Vista. I never wanted to let go of XP for certain applications until now. That's not going to be everyone's experience but it's mine for what I do at home. At this point I wouldn't lose much sleep if my XP installs went belly up.
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Or really make it faster and better by switching to a good Linux distro... (Then you never need the AV/Spyware stuff either)
Linux offers some good choices for the very techy/geeky crowd. But desktop Linux os's aren't anywhere near ready for primetime for the masses. There are a multitude of reasons but a lack of standardization and consequent lack of third party for-profit support are at the top of the list unless all one wants to do is web surf and do simple office applications. Yeah, there is powerful opensource software for Linux out there but then you fall back into the techy/geeky realm to find it, install it and troubleshoot when needed. The masses of computer users aren't ready for that.
In terms of it being faster - that is true but only when running native applications. Running Aces High, as an example, via Cedega or Wine will yield a performance DEGRADATION as compared to running it under Windows using the same hardware. If you want to run other games you have other twiddling and fiddling to do with Cedega or Wine and in very many cases will NEVER get it to work. If you do you still deal with performance degradation vs. a Windows platform. Take a look at the list of Windows games officially supported by Cedega. It's paltry in terms of newer games. Look in the Cedega user forums for the hoops people have jumped through only to be met with ultimate frustration. The tech/geeky crowd might enjoy that kind of challenge. The masses won't.
I don't love Windows. I don't hate Linux. It's a choice not a religion as some would lead you to believe. The bottom line as I have said is that Linux on the desktop is not anywhere near ready for primetime for the majority of computer users IMO.
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Many people don't have "problems" with Vista. But if you cloned their computer and put it next to the other and installed XP or 7 on it, the clone would be much faster, more stable, and all around more effective.
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Many people don't have "problems" with Vista. But if you cloned their computer and put it next to the other and installed XP or 7 on it, the clone would be much faster, more stable, and all around more effective.
Maybe in many cases that is true. I had win7 installed on this dell lappy for about a week but it was more sluggish than the vista it was supplied with. Im guessing that is because of drivers that was not optimised for win7. Even if i could get a say 10 % performance increase if i tried it again now its not worth the upgrade. Its snappy enough as it is for me and not worth the upgrade cost.
My firm opinion is that win7 is better than vista but its NOT magic and many who may be expecting a more stable and faster windows experience may be disapointed. Win Vista as it is now is in my experience 100% stable.
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In just the last 2 years Linux has really narrowed the gap in hardware support, The only hardware driver that I have to install is for my video card, but even that is in the repositories. Even my wireless card worked right out of the box, I only had to install the one driver.
I am no Linux only fanboi as I said, it's just a FREE way to have a great working OS instead of paying a MINIMUM of $100 for win7. (I do LOVE Win7 btw) I have yet to find one task that I could not perform but without paying one cent for the software, and there is no need for software piracy.
I highly recommend if someone who is new to linux wants to give it a try, some distros can be installed under windows as if it was just another program... or there is always the LiveCD which you can run without installing anything at all... I am no mega-geek but over the last 4 years I have enjoyed learning the OS.
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I never have to defrag, nothing to maintain, AH and many many modern games run great (using cedega) ALL of the software I will use is on the distro disk, there are so many distros to choose from, you can find many tailored to your exact needs, including gaming. TONS of free software that do ANYTHING under the sun are available.
BTW, I am not a strict Linux user, I also use Win7 - Which is AWESOME! It is also EXPENSIVE. I really believe Win7 is the best thing MS has put out in quite some time, MUCH trimmer than Vista with speed as good as XP, in 64-Bit it beats XP IMHO.
I also run XP (and all MS OSes back to DOS 5) as a virtual machine under Linux when I MUST use a MS specific program - perhaps I could use Wine but Virtual boxes are the way to go for seldom used programs, etc...
I was just pointing out that Linux is a cheap way to get speed and security
ahahah yeah its really expensive... my laptop gets a free upgrade because i bought it a month before it came out. now i just gotta go get it
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I love toying around with Linux, but with the last fiasco of attempting to make a dual-boot system that took essentially two days to restore the ability to use XP, not too keen on doing that again. I've been trying to find a past-its-prime computer to shove under the desk specifically for messing with Linux, but all I can find have severe catastrophic hardware failures...so, there ya go.
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In just the last 2 years Linux has really narrowed the gap in hardware support, The only hardware driver that I have to install is for my video card, but even that is in the repositories. Even my wireless card worked right out of the box, I only had to install the one driver.
I am no Linux only fanboi as I said, it's just a FREE way to have a great working OS instead of paying a MINIMUM of $100 for win7. (I do LOVE Win7 btw) I have yet to find one task that I could not perform but without paying one cent for the software, and there is no need for software piracy.
I highly recommend if someone who is new to linux wants to give it a try, some distros can be installed under windows as if it was just another program... or there is always the LiveCD which you can run without installing anything at all... I am no mega-geek but over the last 4 years I have enjoyed learning the OS.
I agree completely on the hardware detection of late. Hardware detection/driver installation is very low on my list for Linux suport problems. The only problem I've had in the last couple of years was with a wireless nic on a laptop. In that case I used ndiswrapper(I believe) to convert the ms driver and was up and running quickly.
The lack of polished software that the masses can find, install & use is my biggest complaint. I expect to pay for quality software. The prevalent opinion in Linux circles seems to be that everything should be free. Well, that would be great. I'd like it very much if housing, healthcare and food were free too. A problem arises though when no one has any kind of incentive (being PAID) for producing said quality software or anything else.
I am a Linux fanboy to a certain extent. I have contributed $$$ to certain distro's that I'm fond of. I paid for Xandros 4.1 3 years ago. Since then Xandros though has seemingly abandoned the desktop and gone after the server and netbook market. Linux has great promise for the future. But I'm also a solid realist. Linux ain't ready for primetime for the masses IMO. That said I will never discourage anyone from getting their feet wet and giving it a try. If you are indeed the techy/geeky type you'll learn alot and realize that in some cases there are solid alternatives to MS or Apple.
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Personally, I never had problems with Vista. Just hated it when my mom first got her Vista machine, onto when my laptop came with it, up until W7 was released.