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Title: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: Bino on November 19, 2009, 01:18:59 PM
Could the field of fire of the shore batteries be made a lot wider? 

It strikes me as unrealistic that out here in RL someone would go to all the trouble to build a shore gun emplacement, yet fail to give it the ability to track nearby targets on the ocean.

Thanks!  :salute
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: Wmaker on November 19, 2009, 01:31:37 PM
Been thinking the same thing...

Agreed.
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: AWwrgwy on November 19, 2009, 02:20:26 PM
Not shore batteries per se, but, many of the gun emplacements in Normandy were placed to fire parallel to the beaches and not out to sea at all.

The problem with our shore batteries is not so much field of fire but placement and blind spots.  The actual field of fire is nearly 180o.  Probably greater than actual batteries in hardened, concrete casements.

What you want is two, or more, batteries with overlapping fields-of-fire so the the task group cannot sit 3000 yards offshore of the actual airfield but cannot be hit by the defending artillery.


wrongway
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: Krusty on November 19, 2009, 02:22:26 PM
Well historically, you didn't just have 1 gun... You'd have many guns all arced in different angles/sections of the beach/sea

It might be nice to make SBs more effective, so that CVs can't park themselves 1 mile off shore (yeah... RIGHT... like that could EVER happen?)

+1
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: waystin2 on November 19, 2009, 02:29:25 PM
+1 on better placement or addition of more shore batteries!
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: waystin2 on November 19, 2009, 02:33:19 PM
ugh
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: waystin2 on November 19, 2009, 02:37:20 PM
ugh silly board was not responding
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: Bino on November 19, 2009, 04:02:14 PM
From a programming point of view, I would hazard a guess that changing the "shore battery" item to have a 360 degree view might be easier than adding a bunch of the existing shore batteries - in the right places and with the right facing - to all of our maps.  But then, perhaps The Programmer might weigh in on this...?   ;)




Not shore batteries per se, but, many of the gun emplacements in Normandy were placed to fire parallel to the beaches and not out to sea at all.

The problem with our shore batteries is not so much field of fire but placement and blind spots.  The actual field of fire is nearly 180o.  Probably greater than actual batteries in hardened, concrete casements.

What you want is two, or more, batteries with overlapping fields-of-fire so the the task group cannot sit 3000 yards offshore of the actual airfield but cannot be hit by the defending artillery.


wrongway
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: kvuo75 on November 19, 2009, 04:11:21 PM
some maps have barely ANY sb's to begin with.. (montis, smpizza)

its one of the things i like about ozkansas, there are lots of sb's..
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: Plazus on November 19, 2009, 04:14:48 PM
+1 for this idea!  :aok
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: guncrasher on November 19, 2009, 04:35:29 PM
yup add more sb, and oh yea post the sb fire zone maps so the rest of us noobs know where not to park the cv.

semp
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: batch on November 19, 2009, 09:53:54 PM
The actual field of fire is nearly 180o.

actually the field of fire in game is 80o
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: AWwrgwy on November 21, 2009, 12:11:21 AM
actually the field of fire in game is 80o

Bah.  Geometry.

 :neener:

wrongway
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: Enker on November 21, 2009, 05:23:51 PM
yup add more sb, and oh yea post the sb fire zone maps so the rest of us noobs know where not to park the cv.

semp
Park the CV 30+mi away. Pork Ords and dar on first sortie. Next sorties drop on SBs. Then bring CV in closer.
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: guncrasher on November 21, 2009, 10:52:52 PM
Park the CV 30+mi away. Pork Ords and dar on first sortie. Next sorties drop on SBs. Then bring CV in closer.

cv still a 10 minute ride from other bases.  pork all the ords around and we can still bring a buff in 20 minutes.  so you have perhaps 10 to 20 minutes to take a base before somebody drops the cv.  unless we just furballing in which case it will take longer.  but i think the thread was about having converging fields of fire for sb  which I think would be cool  :banana:

semp
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: trigger2 on November 21, 2009, 11:56:11 PM
From a programming point of view, I would hazard a guess that changing the "shore battery" item to have a 360 degree view might be easier than adding a bunch of the existing shore batteries - in the right places and with the right facing - to all of our maps.  But then, perhaps The Programmer might weigh in on this...?   ;)

Depends on how it's programmed, in some cases it'd be easier to make it 360 (although then this would allow you to shell the base as well which can add some negative effects, especially to GVing), but other ways would make it easier to add some in (copy & paste with changing only a few variables) could be easier.

But back to the OP, I say add more SBs that give overlapping FoF rather than just making it a fancy circle turret...
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: 321BAR on November 24, 2009, 08:49:47 AM
thing is though is that many islands in the pacific didnt have this style of fortress defense with SBs gone wild. but yes they did have more than one or two... maybe even set up smaller SBs and artie for landing troops to be harassed too? and bring back the tank traps in specific places etcetera
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: stran on November 25, 2009, 02:24:55 AM
carrier vessels do not belong on the beach.
move the "waypoint touches land" further out.
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 25, 2009, 06:49:08 AM
Park the CV 30+mi away. Pork Ords and dar on first sortie. Next sorties drop on SBs. Then bring CV in closer.
Agree. and in that order
One would think that this would be a no brainer but it often isnt.
Considering 3/4 of the time people dont bother to even think about porking ords when using a Cv to attack a base.Let alone ord AND SBs.
Thats a pretty tall order.
Title: Re: Shore Battery Field Of Fire
Post by: guncrasher on November 27, 2009, 12:31:12 AM
cv still a 10 minute ride from other bases.  pork all the ords around and we can still bring a buff in 20 minutes.  so you have perhaps 10 to 20 minutes to take a base before somebody drops the cv.  unless we just furballing in which case it will take longer.  but i think the thread was about having converging fields of fire for sb  which I think would be cool  :banana:

semp

semp