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Title: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Zazen13 on November 19, 2009, 05:07:31 PM
This just posted today on IGN

http://pc.ign.com/articles/104/1047654p1.html (http://pc.ign.com/articles/104/1047654p1.html)
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: 68ZooM on November 19, 2009, 05:10:19 PM
warbirds  lol no thanks
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Krusty on November 19, 2009, 05:10:41 PM
Bah... I never liked the AI flown planes in WB... Always sucked that they could turn more tightly and shoot much better than any real player.

I'll pass.


I wonder if they noticed that HTC has given up on "Combat Tour" for now, and they stepped in with one of their own? See a niche, fill a niche?
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Lusche on November 19, 2009, 05:11:33 PM
Wow... they even have the dreaded "MeBf-109"   :D
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: 68ZooM on November 19, 2009, 05:18:57 PM
looked at there website heres there online numbers right now in each arena..

      MAIN 56    
     Armored Assault 23    
     World War 2 2    
     Dawn of Aces 1    
     S3 Squad Select Series 1    
     Special Training Arena 1    
     Training 1    
     Practice and Dueling 0    
  
UMMM i think Hitech has nothing to worry about, there WW1 arena looked cool thou. one month for free, it might take a month to find a fight with those numbers
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: blkmgc on November 19, 2009, 05:22:13 PM
How many dresses can you put on the same hooker? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: soda72 on November 19, 2009, 05:24:44 PM
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Dogfights, a single-player game, takes flight in January on PC

pass 

 :joystick:
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: BaldEagl on November 19, 2009, 06:18:35 PM
"and only your altitude, speed, and your steely self-control will keep you alive on the Ace level! Get in some shots and get out or you die!"

In other words RUN picker, RUN!
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 19, 2009, 07:03:23 PM
LOL...funny that they're using a distributor known for only working with low-budget titles.  Fitting match for Wild Bill.


ack-ack
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: phatzo on November 19, 2009, 07:44:45 PM
looked at there website heres there online numbers right now in each arena..

      MAIN 56    
     Armored Assault 23    
     World War 2 2    
     Dawn of Aces 1    
     S3 Squad Select Series 1    
     Special Training Arena 1    
     Training 1    
     Practice and Dueling 0    
  
UMMM i think Hitech has nothing to worry about, there WW1 arena looked cool thou. one month for free, it might take a month to find a fight with those numbers

56 in the main is big for them, but wwi on Friday night is OK
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: WPmega on November 19, 2009, 07:48:17 PM
i played warbirds like a year ago.

The game is alright. But you will notice this if you go to it.

going from AH to WB's is like going from a T body to a Lambo. 

The game moves that fast.
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: blshar on November 19, 2009, 07:52:15 PM
Do they still count the AI drones in that number like they used to?  If so, that 56 could really be 20 or so real players.  :devil

Either way, another short sighted money grab by mild dill.
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: WPmega on November 19, 2009, 07:53:52 PM
nah. and

the most people on during a time when i played was 150. that was including 20 or so AI.
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: gyrene81 on November 19, 2009, 09:12:40 PM
Actually, the numbers are getting smaller than you think...that 56 in the main arena is about the max for any time these days. If this "new thing" Wild Bill is trying to market has the same flight models and weapons Warbirds has right now...don't waste your time even reading the label.

Big Donkey

Unless they got an outside programmer to do it, the only other person who was supposedly doing any of the programming (and still learning) for Warbirds just quit...and there is still a "hanging promise" of a much needed update that is supposed to fix the super uber F4U-4 they tweaked earlier this year as well as some slight mention of other fixes.
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Masherbrum on November 19, 2009, 09:15:56 PM
I will not even look at the "Competitor".   HTC will get my money.
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: WPmega on November 19, 2009, 09:17:11 PM
i can say this from experiance.

Once you Fly AcesHigh you will never find anything better.
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: gyrene81 on November 19, 2009, 09:20:59 PM
 :rofl I just noticed this...
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Bonus Deal: Dogfight players get free 30-day trial of MMOG WarBirds

Wait, so I have to pay $29.95 to get a free month when the (ancient) Warbirds website says this on the front page?  :huh
Quote
sign up for a free one month account

LMAO!!! Talk about marketing misdirection.
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: blutic on November 19, 2009, 11:17:13 PM
huuuumh.....................y ou cant polish a turd.
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Citabria on November 19, 2009, 11:52:25 PM
See Rule #6
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Bruv119 on November 20, 2009, 03:23:00 AM
"adrenaline-pumping missions for the bravest of gamers. "

there are brave gamers?
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: LYNX on November 20, 2009, 05:19:39 AM
We all know Aces High is the better game but I recall WB offline AI being a far better experience than AH's off line drones (shock, horror).  I have wondered on a number of occasion why HTC didn't use a replica of WB offline experience.  Was it too legally protected or perhaps that wasn't HTC field?

I think the point that everyone is missing is good marketing.   

Think IL-2.  It's in or is available in every game shop.  I've even seen IL-2 give the disc away with related pro mo's.  It isn't what I call MMOG either with a capped 36 man arena's or whatever the number is.

Think Microsoft COMBAT flight sim.  Jesus! even I have one of these...a Christmas present about 6 or 7 years back.  That thing was a good seller in the game shops but the playing experience was SOOOOO repetitive.  None the less it sold in the millions.

As much as we wouldn't play WB you just can't knock the business strategy.  So simple really.  Have a disc cut and boxed for a few bucks (ello China).  Tie in a distribution / marketing company.  Share in the disc sales and eventually keep all the online subscribers....KaaChing.  

In sales terms that disc is the HOOK to the online experience.  Every new purchaser knows he has a free month.  It doesn't matter that the offer is already available.  The purchaser didn't know in the first place....why else would he purchase a disc for a game that's already downloadable.

This is what I thought HTC would have to do with Combat/Tour megga mission thingy-me-bob that they have on the back burner.  I couldn't see it being worth their while if it wasn't pro mo'ed to the masses on a disc.
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: allaire on November 20, 2009, 07:40:26 AM
huuuumh.....................you cant polish a turd.

Actually you can, but in this case there are no techniques that would be able to do it.
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Stalwart on November 20, 2009, 07:58:30 AM
The article says Bill Stealey produced Warbirds.  I guess that's technically correct, yes?

It would be more accurate to say he bought it, killed it, then tried to reinvent it.
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 20, 2009, 09:09:22 AM
Just watched the trailer here

http://igs-games.com/

Cant say Im overly impressed.
And other then the road convoy in the background of one scene
 I cant really say Im impressed at all.

Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Jappa52 on November 20, 2009, 10:02:18 AM
Just watched the trailer here

http://igs-games.com/

Cant say Im overly impressed.
And other then the road convoy in the background of one scene
 I cant really say Im impressed at all.

that ------ was------- horrible. it looks like it was made 10 years ago.
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Westy on November 20, 2009, 10:44:37 AM

 Unless Milddill Stealey got a degree in programming, bought out "Target:Where?" or will outsource
the game to Oleg and friends I wouldn't count that dog till you hear it bark!   I just don't think there's
anyone left at iEN but the amazing and stupendous Wildpill himself and possibly the janitor at this point.

http://forum.totalsims.com/viewtopic.php?t=9602


"To my WarBirds / TotalSims family and friends,
 Today, I am announcing my retirement from IEN.

Over the past almost 10 years, I have had the privilege and honor of serving the WarBirds
Community in almost every conceivable position from basic Techsupport to Producer and
Designer. Meeting many of you at Cons in the US and Europe or talking to you by phone,
email, Roger Wilco or Teamspeak has been one of the many highlights of my time with IEN.
 Working with a legend in the business (WLDBIL) and the other almost countless contributors
to the game including Dan Hammer, Kent East, Tony Hepler, Matt Davis, Chris Cottrell, Sherry
Miracle, Phil Hall, Chris Wall and many other talented folks was icing on a very tasty cake!

If I listed all I have to thank, the forum might just crash, so to all of you I extend a heartfelt
and sincere Thank You, Salute and Blue Skies!

There are many good improvements on the way that we have worked on in the past months
and you have a lot to look forward to as "WarBirders".

Always Best Regards,
Tim SKYDVR Metcalfe "
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Saxman on November 20, 2009, 10:46:42 AM
Actually you can, but in this case there are no techniques that would be able to do it.

Yup, Mythbusters proved that one.

:D
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: hitech on November 20, 2009, 11:48:06 AM
looked at there website heres there online numbers right now in each arena..

      MAIN 56    
     Armored Assault 23    
     World War 2 2    
     Dawn of Aces 1    
     S3 Squad Select Series 1    
     Special Training Arena 1    
     Training 1    
     Practice and Dueling 0    
  
UMMM i think Hitech has nothing to worry about, there WW1 arena looked cool thou. one month for free, it might take a month to find a fight with those numbers

Also of that 56 1/3 are AI.

Definition of insanity, Doing the same thing, and expecting different results.

Warbirds with nothing but new title screens over the past 11 years.

1. Fighter Ops.
2. Dawn Of Aces.
3. Fly Boys.

And NOWWW>>>>

Dogfights.

Hmm wonder if it will do any better then the other re-brands.

HiTech
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Shuffler on November 20, 2009, 12:06:58 PM
<snicker>
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: gyrene81 on November 20, 2009, 12:34:50 PM
Definition of insanity, Doing the same thing, and expecting different results.

Warbirds with nothing but new title screens over the past 11 years.
:huh  :O   :joystick:...BWAHAHAHAHAHA... :huh  :O  :joystick:


Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: xNOVAx on November 20, 2009, 12:46:31 PM
Also of that 56 1/3 are AI.

Definition of insanity, Doing the same thing, and expecting different results.

Warbirds with nothing but new title screens over the past 11 years.

1. Fighter Ops.
2. Dawn Of Aces.
3. Fly Boys.

And NOWWW>>>>

Dogfights.

Hmm wonder if it will do any better then the other re-brands.

HiTech

Pure Ownage right there folks..  :cheers:
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Halo on November 20, 2009, 02:34:47 PM
Some people still really like the offline duels against all the various aircraft.  This guy has written extensively about them in his site:

The Pilot's Flying Guide to W.W. I and W.W. II Aircraft (By Chuck Hawks)

To read this, go to chuckhawks.com, Naval and Military History, Combat Flight Simulations, then the flying guide.

After I told Chuck about Aces High, he tried AH and modified his article to at least mention AH. But his focus remains on Warbirds and all the offline duels. 

Chuck is a super detail guy with much expertise in guns, cameras, astronomy, and various other topics. Check out his site.  Well worth your time.

 
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: 68ZooM on November 20, 2009, 04:11:20 PM
Definition of insanity, Doing the same thing, and expecting different results......  HiTech
Oh i like that Quote.    :aok
Title: Re: AH's Old Nemesis Apparently Having a Go at the Crown...
Post by: Simba on November 20, 2009, 04:22:02 PM
Single-player Woebirds? I'd sooner gargle wasps.

 :cool: