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Title: K/D
Post by: BrockS on November 20, 2009, 08:00:17 PM
So I just took off with a 2.14 kills per death+1, killed a zeke and a pt boat. someone killed me and then I look at my K/D and it is 2.11 ?!?!?


Title: Re: K/D
Post by: Steve on November 20, 2009, 08:01:46 PM
Well with that K/D (greater than 2.0) your k/d would naturally go down.   Not sure what your question is
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: Lusche on November 20, 2009, 08:03:35 PM
I want to add that killing a PT boat in fighter mode doesn't count for K/D anyway, just in case you are referring to fighter K/D
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: stodd on November 20, 2009, 08:05:43 PM
I was rammed while in auto-pilot in my temp yesterday...?
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: BrockS on November 20, 2009, 08:46:49 PM
I want to add that killing a PT boat in fighter mode doesn't count for K/D anyway, just in case you are referring to fighter K/D

That would explain it. Thanks.
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: Getback on November 20, 2009, 08:56:31 PM
I was rammed while in auto-pilot in my temp yesterday...?

If you were in Auto-pilot then I would presume afk. So how do you know you didn't ram them!  :lol
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: crazyivan on November 20, 2009, 09:00:39 PM
Everyone has to pick on the little pt boat. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: stodd on November 20, 2009, 09:21:50 PM
If you were in Auto-pilot then I would presume afk. So how do you know you didn't ram them!  :lol
:lol Was texting, heard the collison and when I looked up, I had a kill, wooowoo.
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: Ruler2 on November 20, 2009, 10:23:23 PM
Well I wasn't on that day,so who could it have been?  :noid
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: twitchy on November 20, 2009, 10:51:38 PM
...killing a PT boat in fighter mode doesn't count for K/D anyway
So if you attack a PT boat in 'fighter mode' and get hammered, that doesn't affect your K/D, even though you got K'ed, it's not a D?  Feasibly I could up a Hurricane with the 40mm, and die fifty times killing PT boats and the like, and it isn't going to affect my K/D? What's up with that? :rolleyes:
-Twitchy
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: mtnman on November 20, 2009, 11:19:01 PM
So if you attack a PT boat in 'fighter mode' and get hammered, that doesn't affect your K/D, even though you got K'ed, it's not a D?  Feasibly I could up a Hurricane with the 40mm, and die fifty times killing PT boats and the like, and it isn't going to affect my K/D? What's up with that? :rolleyes:
-Twitchy

Killing PT boats (or GV's) will not effect your K/D for fighter mode.  Only kills against other airplanes count for you while in fighter mode.

But any time you die it counts against you, and it doesn't matter what the reason is.  Crash, get shot, fall off the CV, whatever...  Even ditching counts as a death in the scoring system.

Actually, even shooting at PT boats (or GV's, or even buildings, ack guns, or other objects) will "hurt" your fighter score, because only bullets that hit other planes count as hits in fighter mode.  Even hitting a GV, PT boat, or object will count as a "miss".  So, whether you kill what you're shooting at or not, those rounds count as misses and will lower your hit %.

If you want a "good" fighter score, you need to kill other planes as quickly as you can, without dying, and without missing, and land as quickly as possible.  You don't want to waste much time flying around or RTBing, because it will hurt your kills/time.  You don't want to die, because it hurts your K/D.  You don't want to miss what your shooting at, because it hurts your hit% and your kills/time (because you'll need to rtb for more ammo).  You also don't want to end your sortie without several kills, because it will hurt your kills/sortie.

If you get enough kills, it may even be preferable to die rather than hurt your kills/time by RTBing, believe it or not.

If you can get your K/D up to around 7-8 to 1, your K/S up to around 3 to 1, your hit% above 10%, and your kills/time up to about 8, you'll probably rank in the top 20 in fighter mode.

If you want to get credit for hits against and kills of PT's, GV's, and ground objects, fly in Attack Mode...
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: twitchy on November 20, 2009, 11:30:13 PM
Wow. Thanks for the post mtnman, I had no idea it was that complex.
No wonder these score fanatics raise so much caine when you shoot them down in a 'front quarter angle' shot.  :lol
-Twitchy
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: BaldEagl on November 20, 2009, 11:39:14 PM
Even ditching counts as a death in the scoring system.

No.  A ditch counts as a landing as far as K/D goes.  The only penalty is not scoring as many kill points.

You are right on everything else.
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: Lazerr on November 21, 2009, 03:16:13 AM
his KD should still go up..  he killed one AC.. why did his KD go down?
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: grizz441 on November 21, 2009, 03:23:36 AM
his KD should still go up..  he killed one AC.. why did his KD go down?

Because he died?
Title: Re: K/D
Post by: mtnman on November 21, 2009, 05:20:08 AM
his KD should still go up..  he killed one AC.. why did his KD go down?

Say he started with a 2/1 K/D.  The hop he mentions he killed a plane and died himself, which is a 1/1 K/D. That lowers his overall average, but without knowing how "strong" his 2/1 average was, you can't really say how much it would hurt him, just that it would.  If his 2/1 average was based on 200 kills/100 deaths, it wouldn't drop as much as if it was based on 8 kills/4 deaths.

In one example, he'd now have 201 kills/101 deaths (1.99 K/D).  In the other he'd have 9 kills/5 deaths (1.8 K/D).

With his "actual" K/D of 2.14, even if the PT boat would have counted towards his score, the 2/1 K/D for the hop in question would have lowered his overall K/D.  Had he lived, it would have helped his overall K/D whether the PT counted or not.