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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: cactuskooler on November 21, 2009, 10:57:00 PM
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P-38J, "Uncle Cy's Angel", flown by Capt. Cyril Homer during his time as CO of 80th FS.
Oboe volunteered to replace one of his 80th FS skins with this.
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/UCA6.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/UCA3.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/UCA5.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/UCA7.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/UCA2.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/UCA4.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/UCA8.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/Uncle_Cy.jpg)
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Now that's a very pretty P38!
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Beaute!
:banana:
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Wow cactus that's awesome! :aok
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I've been waiting for months for the skin to be released, is there any eta, Skuzzy?
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Cactus did a fantastic job on detailing and weathering this baby. Looking forward to seeing it in game! I think its the best bare metal '38 I've ever seen.
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I am only going by other skins in game, but are the anti-glare strips a bit too dark?
Great looking skin cactus, you're real talented, hard to believe this is only your second or third skin no?
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Anti glare looks good from where I'm sitting.
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Anti glare looks good from where I'm sitting.
If you say it is I believe you. My only evidence was going by other skins in game, I have no pics of Uncle Cy's Angel.
love the checkered tips on the tailfins and rudders
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If you say it is I believe you. My only evidence was going by other skins in game, I have no pics of Uncle Cy's Angel.
love the checkered tips on the tailfins and rudders
The striped tail on Corky IV looks even better, I wish I'd not screwed up the one I was doing a year or two ago. Submitted a version that was messed up (forgot the national insignias on the wings, and nobody caught it on the test pics until after I'd submitted it), and when I went in to fix it to re-submit, the file was corrupted and I would have had to start it all over. Didn't have the motivation or patience to do it all again, so I just gave up on it.
That one looks gorgeous, can't wait to see it in the game.
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The striped tail on Corky IV looks even better, I wish I'd not screwed up the one I was doing a year or two ago. Submitted a version that was messed up (forgot the national insignias on the wings, and nobody caught it on the test pics until after I'd submitted it), and when I went in to fix it to re-submit, the file was corrupted and I would have had to start it all over. Didn't have the motivation or patience to do it all again, so I just gave up on it.
That one looks gorgeous, can't wait to see it in the game.
Never noticed that Treize, will take a look.
Yes it's a gorgeous plane, we have a few nice J skins on the way, will be a tough decision on which one to use.
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That 5TH airforce DVD book you & I have has some good stuff on it. Nice job :aok
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Wow this skin is great. When it comes out, swanne jr. is going to take a little break.
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Dam I just got a hard on! :bolt:
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Dam I just got a hard on! :bolt:
Well it's only a little problem.
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has detail
remove a blah no detail skin and add it.
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has detail
remove a blah no detail skin and add it.
:huh
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Hey thats a real eye catcher Cactus.You did a very very good job on that.
Pipz
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:huh
I know strange huh?
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has detail
remove a blah no detail skin and add it.
Concur...
My regards,
Widewing
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:huh
He said "Add it and remove a "less detailed skin". Read it again.
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Well it's only a little problem.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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He said "Add it and remove a "less detailed skin". Read it again.
I know that. I put the :huh there because I figured he would straight up give a praise rather than using a strange phrase of "remove a less detailed skin".
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fantastic job. :aok
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Absolutely gorgeous!! <S>
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When is the next skin pack to be released? Better yet, will this skin be in the next set?
I've been looking to fly this skin long before Cactus ever started it. :aok
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Nice Oxidised aluminum. :aok
That's a nice sink for sure. :rock
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That's a nice sink for sure. :rock
Kitchen or bathroom?
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Kitchen or bathroom?
LOL whoops ..... SKIN :o :bolt:
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When is the next skin pack to be released? Better yet, will this skin be in the next set?
I've been looking to fly this skin long before Cactus ever started it. :aok
I think they're busy with other projects.
Priorities, and skins are always rather low it seems.
wrongway
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great work :aok
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Is there any chance of this skin being introduced prior to the next scenario, Philippine Phandango?
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Petty skin...however I think you forgot to model in the bombbay doors.
:t :neener:
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Is there any chance of this skin being introduced prior to the next scenario, Philippine Phandango?
I wouldn't get your hopes up, Del.
Petty skin...however I think you forgot to model in the bombbay doors.
:t :neener:
Ouch, that cut deep. :P
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I wouldn't get your hopes up, Del.
I was hoping... next month will mark the 2 year mark for this skin.
edit: Let me correct that. One year of me waiting for the skin to be released after it was accepted. I spent another year previously looking for someone to do it.
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Gawd that is sad. I recently sent Skuzzy an email, asking a few questions about skins (I had heard somewhere there were changes coming to the player-submitted skins process) and asked again that my bare metal Jandina be replaced by Uncle Cy's Angel. Never heard anything back from HTC.
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Oboe, hopefully it will be added eventually. :(
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Nice work Cactus, hoping to see this in game within the next century.
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Wonder what is going on with this skin? Another skin pack released and still no Uncle Cy's Angel?
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Please HTC. We need this skin! :(
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Darn. I had my hopes up. Would have been perfect for the last two scenario frames.
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Hot tamale! :devil Love it.
Off topic:
Why doesn't HTC wait just another 3 weeks to get things sorted and release it in 1 big pack rather then small update packs? This is confusing me.
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This skin continues to haunt me... it is akin to going to a topless bar where you can see but it never gets any closer than that.
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This skin continues to haunt me... it is akin to going to a topless bar where you can see but it never gets any closer than that.
Try $20's instead of one Dollar bills. They will move a little closer then. :aok You should all ready know what brand of Alcohol it takes for a bribe in this game. :D
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As someone outside the 80th, I'd like for them to receive this skin. :noid
Although bare metal Jandina is my current love, I think I could get over it. Plus the checker board can keep the gvs occupied as I inevitably deposit my p38 parts all over the map.
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I've begun to give up on ever seeing this paint in Aces High.
It is really too bad too, Cy Homer was a great guy and Cactus did a great job on the skin.
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Some ponies got rotated this round. Ya never know. I know how ya feel though. I've stopped terrain making until the last one I submitted a few months ago finally gets some play time.
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Punt! Skuzzy, please?
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i request this skin be resubmitted to replace airmess 20thfg/55thfs
(http://www.netaces.org/skins/p38j/skin9.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/UCA6.jpg)
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Our intention was to try to get it rotated with Oboe's bare metal 80th bird.
(http://www.netaces.org/skins/p38j/skin4.jpg)
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well whatever works. your skins are neurotically detailed precision executed well done skins and its a loss to the community for them to be lost in the mix with bad skins that get constantly spammed at htc
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OK change it with Airmess's bird. More 80th the better :)
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I've waited so long (2+ years) for 'Uncle Cy's Angel', I realize now that it may not even be in the game when my 8 week old son starts flying Aces High.
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff14/DeliriumP38/358940887_photobucket_37624_.jpg)
"Please, allow this skin in the game or I will mail HTC a dirty diaper."
(brings all new meaning to the description 'mail bomb')
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Gee thanks Del. Now everyone will want to look at your cute kid rather than the updated version of this skin.
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/80th%20Headhunters/Final1.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/80th%20Headhunters/Final2.jpg)
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Personally, I'd rather see my metal Jandina replaced by another 80th natural metal bird. Cactuskoolers' skins make me drop jaw and drool!
I think Airmess's 38J, though a really old skin, has aged fairly well, more importantly it actually represents a FG involved in the current scenario - so I'd recommend leaving that one in. Or have them pull my 479th FG Swanee Jr - I'm not so pleased with how that one turned out.
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I've waited so long (2+ years) for 'Uncle Cy's Angel', I realize now that it may not even be in the game when my 8 week old son starts flying Aces High.
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff14/DeliriumP38/358940887_photobucket_37624_.jpg)
"Please, allow this skin in the game or I will mail HTC a dirty diaper."
(brings all new meaning to the description 'mail bomb')
Don't look into his eyes!
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(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/80th%20Headhunters/Final1.jpg)
thats pretty damned shiney.
nice tweak
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I think the extra shine really mutes a lot of the effort you put into weathering. I've run into similar problems myself. It's the strange way the materials.txt affects the final display of the bitmap.
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I can't comment enough on how really good skin are languishing while ones without weathering, proper colors, or even muting of really bright paint continue to exist in Aces High.
I really wish they would rotate some of the older and less attractive skins out to make room for better ones. You don't need to be Krusty to see the huge difference in how much better some of the newer skins look.
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Just noticed your part of the skinner team as well Cactus. :aok Congrats on that your work is deserved of the title. Nice work on you recent upgrade. I see what Krusty is saying I guess it just depends on if you like them shiny or grimy. Either way they both look great.
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Beautiful skin! Congratulations! I hope you can get it in the game within a reasonable time frame...skin rotation seems to move at a glacial speed :salute
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It is a lot more shiny. That's how I would have done it back in 2009 when I first made it, but I wasn't capable of doing so at the time. Part of the reason it was more dirty before was to break up the uniform look of the whole plane. Now I think I can get away from the uniform look without piling on heaps of dirt and grime. And there's still dirt and all that jazz, just to a lesser extent.
Perhaps the screenshots don't show it well but ingame it looks lightyears better and more detailed.
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Its a very nice skin, but I fly with the 20th FG "locobusters" and we use the 20th skin all the time please dont replace it .
Thanks
<S>
Carver
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It is a lot more shiny. That's how I would have done it back in 2009 when I first made it, but I wasn't capable of doing so at the time. Part of the reason it was more dirty before was to break up the uniform look of the whole plane. Now I think I can get away from the uniform look without piling on heaps of dirt and grime. And there's still dirt and all that jazz, just to a lesser extent.
Perhaps the screenshots don't show it well but ingame it looks lightyears better and more detailed.
Cactus,
I have some skin requests for you, as a emerging silver skin talent:
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/ROCKY2.jpg)
or
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/dunham_william_p47d21-1.jpg)
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I would really like to see a razorback from the 348th FG too. I have one in mind I wouldn't mind doing, but with the D-11 skins full I don't think I'll be doing one soon.
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photorealism or at least a stylized band of brothers/saving private ryan type of thematic photorealism is preferable to me.
weathering and metal fatigue/deformation for its own sake sometimes detracts from this and makes the skin look like its made of concrete or stone or anything but very thin tightly fastened metal.
in fact in some instances its preferable to have minimal weathering on a bare metal subject when you condense a skin down to 256 colors using bright (a tiny program everyone here should be using to make their skins 256 colors by now)
if you want to see the results of baremetal finish with and without weathering look at my bbd p51 (weathered) and my American beauty p51 (minimal weathering)
the colors in the american beauty metal finish are more vibrant because less of the 256 colors were siphoned off into grime while the BBD is still convincing but seems more oxidized and not as reflective even though material files for both are the same. also note that weathering will mute bare metal effects by the simple nature of it being another layer on top of the bare metal effect.
but back to the current subject...
the p38 in this thread looks more photorealistic in the latest version due to more refined and subdued weathering and improved bare metal baked in reflective effects.
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Seadog: I don't know about the first, it may have been made, but for the second there definitely is a skin for that. I just don't think it's in rotation yet. It was a different plane with similar markings and a larger kill board on the side.
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Seadog: I don't know about the first, it may have been made, but for the second there definitely is a skin for that. I just don't think it's in rotation yet. It was a different plane with similar markings and a larger kill board on the side.
That second one or one close to it is in game, when i do fly the 47-D11 thats the skin i use.
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I would really like to see a razorback from the 348th FG too. I have one in mind I wouldn't mind doing, but with the D-11 skins full I don't think I'll be doing one soon.
The latter is a later 348th William Dunham skin, but I wholeheartedly agree, we do need an OD white tail version. I've been whining like a puppy for one, and even made a skin. It is so amateur looking that I will leave it to the pros.
Rogerdee's version of the PTO skin is excellent whiteman, and the only recent skin in over a year.
I understand there used to be a Checkertail D11 too but it was rotated out. I feel a 56th skin should be retired for something fresh.
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I realize now that it may not even be in the game when my 8 week old son starts flying Aces High.
He looks like a SpitXVI type of guy so I don't think it matters that much Del. :P
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He looks like a SpitXVI type of guy so I don't think it matters that much Del. :P
He's the cutest little guy - I love that little smile he's workin' on.
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Still no love for "Uncle Cy's Angel".
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Still no love for "Uncle Cy's Angel".
:furious Guess not.... :furious
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Still no love for "Uncle Cy's Angel".
I was hoping to get it...but no. I was also wanted his g6 skin
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I was also wanted his g6 skin
If you mean the G-14 skin, it is ingame.
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If you mean the G-14 skin, it is ingame.
Yea, lol I thought it was a g6 because debrody said something about Hungarian g6's and I knew you made a Hungarian skin :lol my mistake.
Is a great skin!
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Wait is this in game or not?
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I think Uncle Cy's Angel is maybe the most famous 38J on the skins waiting list. I think it's been on it for, what, two years now?
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I find that you get better results with a polite prirvate request, from the skinner in question and the person who's skin is willing to be replaced, than stomping all over the boards complaining. Just saying.
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I find that you get better results with a polite prirvate request, from the skinner in question and the person who's skin is willing to be replaced, than stomping all over the boards complaining. Just saying.
You haven't read this thread... Cactus made the skin, Oboe voluntarily offered to have one of his older skins replaced.
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I have too. I keep up on all the skin threads. I have seen repeated complaints. They are obviously not working. I said "polite private".
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They are obviously not working. ".
what do you mean by "they"? They as in the complaints? or....well....people....um... .
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just replace it if it says fencer next to it
oh hai fencer :cheers:
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Ok, now that they have increased the number of skins per plane from 16 to 32, can we please add this skin to the game?
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Ok, now that they have increased the number of skins per plane from 16 to 32, can we please add this skin to the game?
+1
:aok
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I'm going to post a picture this weekend, I hope it will finally convince Skuzzy to get it in the game.
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this is the best looking p38 IMO please put her in!!
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Skuzzy, please put this skin in the game or my dad is going to keep trying to indoctrinate me to the P38. The first link is a video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dCg5eQyyl8
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff14/DeliriumP38/SAM_1086.jpg)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff14/DeliriumP38/SAM_1077.jpg)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff14/DeliriumP38/SAM_1097.jpg)
I should of waited until Saturday when he was awake and smiling, not much in the way of smiles here.
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Cute Del,the pic with him chewing on the prop is especially cute :aok
:salute
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Make sure that prop wasnt made in china........ :noid :D
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Were any skins released this patch?
*crosses fingers*
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Were any skins released this patch?
*crosses fingers*
no :(
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While he was in the LW server today, I asked Skuzzy directly "any word regarding new skins", and he responded that he would "...not be able to get to any new skins this week".
So... I'm guessing after the bugs are worked out of the latest version he will again pick up the task of getting to the new skins. Which, I certainly hope so because there are some outstanding skins that are begging to be added and used. :salute ;)
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This will be my default skin once in game :pray
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CO or not, that is fighting words!
Since this skin was started, I have;
1. Gotten married.
2. Bought a house.
3. Have TWO kids.
4. Will likely been through 3 different people in the White House.
That is my default skin! I will not give it up willingly!
(of course, by the time it does appear, my 10 month old son will be graduating high school)
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Come on, Skuzzy, pull your head out of your arse and put this skin in already!
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Easy there, Plaz. Patience young Padawan.
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CO or not, that is fighting words!
Since this skin was started, I have;
1. Gotten married.
2. Bought a house.
3. Have TWO kids.
4. Will likely been through 3 different people in the White House.
That is my default skin! I will not give it up willingly!
(of course, by the time it does appear, my 10 month old son will be graduating high school)
Del, as I am CO of the 80th, it is only fitting I fly the CO's virtual bird.
edit: Just saw the pics or your son, one cute kid!
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Sadly, though, my patience has run out. :( Waiting over two years for a skin to be rotated into the game is simply ridiculous... especially when one of the skinners offered to have his skin replaced with this- with the addition of squadron approval.
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Coupla things -
I agree two years (even one year, even 4-6 months) is too long to wait for a skin to get in game. The experience of waiting for so long for skins has left me thinking the custom skinning aspect of AH is broken, and I'd sooner see skin management decentralized and left in player's hands. We would have many more offerings if players had control of what skins they used in game. But i would also like some feature added to let me know how many times I run into a skin in an arena that I haven't installed - so I can make sure I download all the skins most people are using.
I'm even thinking turning skins into a profit center for HTC might not be a bad way to go. HTC pays skinners some $$ for great-looking skins, then makes them available singly or in related skinpacks (all skins necessary for a scenario, for example) at an iTunes-like store app, accessible from the O Club- you can preview and download the skin for a small fee, added to your monthly bill. Paying for extra content is the direction a lot of games are moving. I'd consider anything just to encourage HTC to move along with skins! We just seem to sit dead in the water month after month with nothing happening. The new 32 skin limit per plane should've helped, but we haven't even had a skin release since that became available.
I think the way it is now is almost worse than not having custom skins at all.
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To be blunt, the skin rotation is entirely up to HTC, the skinning team, and (to a VERY small extent) the AH community. Unless the community can completely disprove the historical basis the skin is modeled after, it moves on to the bowels of HTC where Skuzzy and the skinning team sacrifice goats and dismember monkeys in an attempt to get skins into the game*.
*Note: Uncle Cy's Angel is not included in his process and has been eliminated from ever seeing the virtual light of Aces High.
Say what? Did I miss something somewhere? What happened to Uncle Cy's Angel? Hpw'd she get eliminated?
My most recent submission (P-38J "Journey's End") was submitted last January. I never received a confirmation email, but in June I got an acceptance email saying the skin was in the 38J queue. It's December now and the 16 skin limit has been doubled, so I assume Journey's End is out of the queue. But she was not in the last skin update.
I didn't want to hijack the other thread... my comment was a tongue in cheek *elbow nudge* towards possibly seeing this skin before I die of old age. :(
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This isn't a skin this is 38 porn.
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wow, it has been over two years.... :old: :rofl
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It was initiated on Aug 2008 by one skinner, and Cactus started his own version (the one in this thread) in Oct 2009.
I've been waiting a long time on this one.
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Has there been any progress on this skin? This month marks the 2.5 year mark for this skin.
No exaggeration, I only had one child when this skin was finished. Now, I have two children and my youngest is walking, talking, playing ball, and getting attention from the ladies.
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff14/DeliriumP38/photobucket-1239-1333941287988.jpg)
From an Easter brunch we attended today, was taken with my cellphone camera.
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I've been waiting on this skin as well. Simply beautiful
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Nearly there I bet.
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Nearly there I bet.
So is my winning lottery ticket.
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we have some new effects with specularity and bump mapping maybe bug cactus to update this one and submit it again? dunno
squeaky wheel gets the grease sometime... though not always.
I guess everyone knows what kind of scene I would make if a skn i worked hard on that had people clamoring to be added was shelved in beuracracy for 2 years...
My advice if he dosn't have time to update it is just submit it again as is.
it has clearly been lost in translation.
every other skin I made a scene about a while back has been added except this one. its not like they have to delete a skin to add this one now.
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Funny you posted in this thread, someone remarked to me in the Main Arena; "Your son will have his own handle and account on Aces High before Cy's Angel is put into the game." Sadly, I believe that individual was correct.
I know I often put the wait time in comparison to my son's age, but this skin was SUBMITTED more than a year before my son was born. My son is 1.5 years old today, it won't be long before he has an account at this rate.
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Is this the point where we try reverse psychology?
Don't put it in!
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I'm looking on the bright side, at least I'll have a photo album for the kid I wait for the skin to be released; from birth to high school graduation.
(our house is being gutted, we are waiting on custom couches for our primary living room, that is why is he in a folding chair)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff14/DeliriumP38/2012-04-26_09-20-51_859.jpg)
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
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congrats Del its in the game
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Del's son is trying to get daddy to wake up and get off the floor! :)
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cute kid del
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The poor kid wasn't able to celebrate with dad tonight. As this thread fades into the sunset, this is the last picture I'll post of him.
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff14/DeliriumP38/2012-05-10_21-55-00_141.jpg)
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And so ends an era. :airplane:
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congrats cactus and del!
I think that might be a record for longest wait for a skin :D
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I'm claiming this victory for reverse psychology. :D
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It was a beautiful story.
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someone should write a book or make a film. :cry
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The poor kid wasn't able to celebrate with dad tonight. As this thread fades into the sunset, this is the last picture I'll post of him.
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff14/DeliriumP38/2012-05-10_21-55-00_141.jpg)
Del,
Now you need to request for "uncle Del's angel" the photo is a great reference!
Cute boy you have and he looks like an angel sleeping there. :aok
:salute
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It looks like this thread isn't over just yet. From what I read, Skuzzy wants all of the skins to be re-submitted with bump mapping. :bolt: