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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Kweassa on December 25, 2001, 09:24:00 PM
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From top to bottom: early version G-14, latter version G-14, G-14/AS(early version), G-14/AS(latter version)
If we can have a G-14 to fill the gap between a normal G-6 and a G-10, which one would be good? The early version G-14 with the bumps but with out the Galland haube seems nice to me. It does about 412mph at 16,500 ft alt, which would be a bit better match up against planes like Spit9 than G-6, which is currently admittably outclassed.
The G-14/AS, is a lot closer to our G-10 in performance, about 421mph top speed, but this seems inappropriate.
(http://album.freechal.com/Comservice/activity/Album/getImage.asp?url=AHgallery&grpid=1144674&file=22%5FG14%2Ejpg&objseq=1)
[ 12-25-2001: Message edited by: Kweassa ]
[ 12-26-2001: Message edited by: Kweassa ]
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we absolutely need this plane. It closes the gap between the g6 and the g10.
Piss on a 109k. give us a g14
even though there are bigger holes to fill in other plansets the g14 is what i want and i'm biased so what :)
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I'd guess it is about as likely we'll get a different varient of the 109 as it is that pigs will be taking off around the globe.
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Actually I wish Pyro would give our G6, MW50, which would fill that niche in performance between the G2 and the G10 nicely. Whereas right now its bellybutton backwards.
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Hi Kweassa,
according to Manfred Griehl, the Me 109G-14 closed a small gap, the first G-14 examples being delivered in June 1944, and the first G-10 and K-14 being delivered around October 1944.
Since the first G-10 examples were delivered with DB605AS, too, as the DB605D wasn't available in sufficient numbers yet, I think the gap-closing G-14 would be the G-14/AS anyway.
It's my impression that the G-10 and G-14 should have very similar performance when equipped with the same engine model, anyway. A difference could result if the G-14 were not equipped with MW50: According to Griehl, MW50 was standard for the DB605DC-equipped G-10.
I think Vermillion's suggestion of an MW50-eqipped Me 109G-6 would close a larger gap, though :-)
Regards,
Henning (HoHun)
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Originally posted by HoHun:
Hi Kweassa,
according to Manfred Griehl, the Me 109G-14 closed a small gap, the first G-14 examples being delivered in June 1944, and the first G-10 and K-14 being delivered around October 1944.
Since the first G-10 examples were delivered with DB605AS, too, as the DB605D wasn't available in sufficient numbers yet, I think the gap-closing G-14 would be the G-14/AS anyway.
It's my impression that the G-10 and G-14 should have very similar performance when equipped with the same engine model, anyway. A difference could result if the G-14 were not equipped with MW50: According to Griehl, MW50 was standard for the DB605DC-equipped G-10.
I think Vermillion's suggestion of an MW50-eqipped Me 109G-6 would close a larger gap, though :-)
Regards,
Henning (HoHun)
I am all for MW50, and GM1 weps when HT can or does model a tank with a certain minute
capasity. when u use it up(tied to fuel multiplier) to get that wep back u would need to either rearm or replane.
whels
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Introducing G14 would fill the gap between G2 and G10 but would leave G6 useless. I like Vermillion's idea better. Adjusting the FM would also probably be easier than doing an altogether new plane. Also, IIRC the paint scheme already represents a plane equipped with MW50?
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A G6 with MW50 would be nice, in fact I beove that our G6 in AH had MW50 in RL, plus it may actually be a G14, but thats up to debate.
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the g6 we have now I believe should have mw50 but even if we keep as it is the g14 would not make it useless . The 109f gets use so does the g2 as does the g6 now.
The g6 in ah is a good fun ride that wont change with a g6 with mw50 or a g14.
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Isn't our 109G-6 paint scheme that of Erich Hartmann's G-14? I tried searching for some of the examples that match the scheme of our Bf 109G-6, but I couldn't find any image on a G6 that exactly matches our one. Hartmann's unqiue paint scheme on the cowling part(the spikes) can be found in number of crafts Hartmann used from G-6 to G-14,but generally, a G-14 paint scheme I have dug up matches ours best.
Compare:
(http://album.freechal.com/Comservice/activity/Album/getImage.asp?url=AHgallery&grpid=1144674&file=23%5FBf109G6%2Ejpg&objseq=1)
(http://204.50.25.179/features00/images/images_4/hartmanncs_1.jpg)
Erich Hartmann, Bf 109G-14/AM
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any other opinions?
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Thats the plane though I have seen it depicted as a G6 (std tail) as well.
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Yes, I was thinking this the other day, the G-14 was the main 109 variant in 1944 and 1945. I want it :-) would be cool :-)
of course any 109 with MW50 would be nice, why is Mw50 not available in WB ? ? will the sissy fire pilots complain? :eek:
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Ummmm.... the AH 109G10 already has MW50
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Originally posted by rammjagr:
of course any 109 with MW50 would be nice, why is Mw50 not available in WB ? ? will the sissy fire pilots complain? :eek:
That's rather insulting, considering that none of us have ever complained about the G-10's MW50, or the Fw190D-9's for that matter, and the vast amount of complaining don by Luftwaffe fans whenever a post 1942 Spit is requested. Not only is that insulting, it is also extremely arrogant.
For the record, I would like to see a G-6 with MW50 in AH. And that is from a "Sissyfire" driver.
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I tried searching for some more data on the internet. It seems like there are two paint schemes for the 109 Erich Hartmann used which is almost identical to our 109G-6.
The image I have put up previously is a 109G-14/AM, and there is a paint scheme that is exactly the same:
(http://204.50.25.179/features00/images/images_2/bf109g6cw_3.jpg)
This aircraft has the caption
"Bf 109G-6 7/JG52 Staffelkapitan Erich Hartmann"
I guess our G-6 scheme IS the scheme of G-6 after all...
Any more info on this?