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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: 49Jester on December 04, 2009, 03:55:06 PM
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Does anyone know when we will see the Early birds? I am eager to get a peek
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25th of December! :x :x
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Doing are damdest to get them out this year.
HiTech
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Doing are damdest to get them out this year.
HiTech
I know Waffle told me you guys had a slow down hope ya'll can get it done!
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Doing are damdest to get them out this year.
HiTech
stop spending so much time "partying" and goofing off and you guys will have a much better chance ! :devil
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stop spending so much time "partying" and goofing off and you guys will have a much better chance ! :devil
Hmmm I normally wouldn't agree with this because I like to see the staff in the MA but, I have to agree this time, they can have tons of fun when the WW1 is finished! :x :x :x
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Doing are damdest to get them out this year.
HiTech
continue the great ork hitech just hope no riots break out waiting for the new planes!!! (joke)
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Major strat cities weren't built in a day.
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I always hated how it took man so long to build, pouring sweat, blood, and tears to craft an object, yet man could destroy that same object with minimal effort, and in an overwhelming fraction of the time...... :frown:
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HT, man, if it gets tight and all you have ready is two fighters then feel free to release them! Hell...even if all ya got is the DR1 then let her fly! I wouldn't want to do play that way for more than a few weeks but.....well, Im desperate to fly wood and fabric crates :rock
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.....well, Im desperate to fly wood and fabric crates :rock
You already have Hurricanes and Mosquitoes. ;)
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....even if all ya got is the DR1 then let her fly! I wouldn't want to do play that way for more than a few weeks but....
yep :)
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Doing are damdest to get them out this year.
HiTech
Even though it is misspelled, the effort at least deserves a <<S>>. :)
Keep it up HTC.
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Doing are damdest to get them out this year.
HiTech
Is he attempting to bypass the profanity filter? Nope, nothing to see here.
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Hope the Bristol F2B Fighter's wings are proper strength this time, H-T, unlike the DoA Biff's cardboard ones?
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WWI aircraft were used for other things besides shooting at each other.
Artillery spotting, reconnaissance, photo reconnaissance, depot bombing and balloon busting. There were even aircraft carriers, sea plane tenders, torpedo carrying planes that sank shipping in the channel and medditeranian. The fighter was developed to protect the bomb droppers and recon aircraft. Jousting exclusively with each other developed out of the need to protect or hunt down the recon and bomb dropping planes who had a greater day to day strategic impact on the war. For a bit more dimension to the WWI arena introduce recon and bombing aircraft. Not to bomb strat but, to try and get from point A to point B and back alive to brag about it.
Have somthing like an Aviatik, R.E.8 or Halberstadt that can fly from it's home feild to snap a photo of, or drop a small bomb on an enemy location in either of the other two countries. The photo of the target or bomb drop at the target is recorded as proof of reaching the target or point B. If the plane gets home and lands, the pilot gets a mission success message. If he gets lucky and shoots down another plane, a success message for that too. In WWI a recon pilot and bomb dropper pilot had a very short life span. They and thier gunner could put up a good fight. But fighters chewed them up much of the time. It would take the same kind of skill as landing kills in a B5N to perform one of these sorties. In WWI the paths and locations recon aircraft would fly were pretty static and well known. Thats why fighters escorted them. Could do missions to escort recon or bomb droppers to and from a location to start up furballs.
Balloon busting was very dangerous. Lots of gun emplacements and some sites had fighter patrols to support them during WWI. Have balloons with ack setup along the fronts back about a mile that regenerate in 10 to 15 min after being killed. There may be some players not up to flying straight into a WWI furball with fighters. Recon sorties and balloon busting would be other things they can do along with adding a bit of dimension to the arena. Killing a recon plane is not garunteed. They could be rather nimble and were armed.
Otherwise, just put in another Furball Lake in the DA with the WWI plane set. It will save on having to create maps and opening another arena. I'm assuming most everyone who wants a WWI plane set just wants to up their wood and cloth kites and tear into one another willy nilly. I would think without a bit of extra dimension this will get stale and have a small following. I remember the WWI arena in AW.
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Will the rotary engines be visually modelled?
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Will the rotary engines be visually modelled?
IIRC they were on the Superfokkers.
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Here's hoping that the WWI arena eventually provides more than just a DA for biplanes; in particular, artillery-spotting, as in the best days of Dawn of Aces 2.75, before it was mutated into the 'Flyboys' travesty. There's no point in a combat flight sim that has no strategic element.
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I'm hoping they eventually include dedicated bombers for scenarios and stuff. I want's to kill me some BIG dang biplanes!
(http://www.military-art.com/mall/images/dhm1785.jpg)
(http://warandgame.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/handley-page-v-1500.jpg)
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The Zeppelin Staaken saw action in WWI but not the Handley Page V/1500, which was nearly ready to bomb targets in Germany at war's end but never made it into action.
Except once. An example of H-P's four-engined bomber was shipped to India post-war and demonstrated to the powers-that-be. The pilot was an ex-pupil of Charterhouse and christened the aircraft 'H.M.A. [His Majesty's Aeroplane] Old Cartusian'. War broke out in Afghanistan just before the bomber was due to be shipped home to Blighty, whereupon the chap rounded up a volunteer aircrew, borrowed all 5 and 48 Squadron Bristol Fighters' bomb carriers, loaded up with bombs aplenty and flew to Kabul (through the mountain passes, the aircraft having insufficient performance to climb over the summits), where he dropped the lot on the Amir's palace. Four went through the wall of the harem, where the Amir was taking his pleasure. Shocked and awed, he immediately telephoned Government House in Delhi to surrender - and the cheapest, shortest war ever fought by British forces was over before the aircraft landed back at base - where it was subsequently condemned as unfit to fly due to termite infestation. The wings were burnt but the plywood fuselage remained to serve as 5 Squadron Adjutant's office for the next twenty years.
<salutes the Raj with a large single malt>
Cheers!
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I'm hoping they eventually include dedicated bombers for scenarios and stuff. I want's to kill me some BIG dang biplanes!
(http://www.military-art.com/mall/images/dhm1785.jpg)
(http://warandgame.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/handley-page-v-1500.jpg)
if the gunners were doin there job right most of the bombers would be hard to kill
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if the gunners were doin there job right most of the bombers would be hard to kill
Thats half the fun. :)
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The Zeppelin Staaken saw action in WWI but not the Handley Page V/1500, which was nearly ready to bomb targets in Germany at war's end but never made it into action.
How bout the Ilya Muromets then?
(http://www.afwing.com/intro/mig/MIG/Ilya_Muromets.jpg)
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How bout the Ilya Muromets then?
(http://www.afwing.com/intro/mig/MIG/Ilya_Muromets.jpg)
Yummy! Bombers!
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I wouldnt be the least bit surprised to find that a two seater is the surprise we dont know about...., there usualy is one.
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I wouldnt be the least bit surprised to find that a two seater is the surprise we dont know about...., there usualy is one.
Why, when theres already a two-seater that we do know about.
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Balloon busting was very dangerous. Lots of gun emplacements and some sites had fighter patrols to support them during WWI.
The real danger was that the balloons, being at a known altitude, were defended by ack guns that had their fuses zeroed in for the proper altitude. Naturally this made the triple A about ten times as murderous, about as murderous as proximity-fused AA guns at the end of the Second World War would be. Every shell detonated roughly at the right altitude. In fact, Lanoe Hawker, ace and noted balloon buster, settled on a tactic of starting high, diving on the balloons, and then continuing his steep dive past them to clear the "hot zone" where the guns were zeroed in on as fast as possible.
Considering that his tactic required a steep dive, and that he flew Nieuports- who's lower wings had a tendency to part company with the fuselage in very steep prolonged dies- and you can appreciate how loco Hawker was.
EDIT: Or was it Frank Luke who was a noted balloon buster? I can't recall. Luke flew Spads IIRC, and diving in a Spad is quite safe.
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'Dive, fire and extend' was a favoured balloon-busting tactic - but not one employed by Lanoe Hawker. He was no balloon-buster but flew almost every other type of mission: first with No.6 Squadron RFC, when his actions of 25th July 1915 and previously were recognised by the award of the Victoria Cross; later, as CO of No.24 Squadron, he led the RFC's first squadron mounted entirely on a single type of single-engined 'scout', the DH2 'pusher'.
Balloon-busting in the ol' Dawn of Aces attracted 'Archie' [WWI British slang for AAA) to those of us who tried it like wasps to jam, I recall. Here's hoping HT and Co's latest efforts provide a WWI sim that's as much fun as that one was in its 2.75 incarnation and includes at least all the aircraft types we flew way back then at the turn of the millenium, especially my favourite SE5a and the SPAD S.13. Oh yes, they could dive alright . . .
Here's to the next man to die - cheers!
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Happy New Year all, any scuttlebutt on the vintage birds?
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Here's to the next man to die - cheers!
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[/quote]make that the first man to die :lol :lol
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I dont mean to be a pain, but...anything yet?...lol
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2 more weeks
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2 more weeks
2 WEEKS!!! that's all!!! thats just crazy..........I hope it won't be as cool as a lunar eclipce(ZZZZZZZZZ) :pray :pray :pray
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2 WEEKS!!! that's all!!! thats just crazy..........I hope it won't be as cool as a lunar eclipce(ZZZZZZZZZ) :pray :pray :pray
thats right warphoenix, just 2 weeks
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2 WEEKS!!! that's all!!! thats just crazy..........I hope it won't be as cool as a lunar eclipce(ZZZZZZZZZ) :pray :pray :pray
Pwned.
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I'm hoping they eventually include dedicated bombers for scenarios and stuff. I want's to kill me some BIG dang biplanes!
(http://www.military-art.com/mall/images/dhm1785.jpg)
(http://warandgame.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/handley-page-v-1500.jpg)
Ooh! Now I have a new plane to crusade for!
GO GOTHA!!!
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To quote my kids, "Are we there yet?" :pray
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Not quite.
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Wonder if we can use perks for ords in the WWI arena? If so would be fun to pack this gun package on.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan5-1.jpg)
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looks like those guns were only used (or just disigned to be used) for strafing only
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looks like those guns were only used (or just disigned to be used) for strafing only
some reason my first thought was, for flying over bombers/2 seaters and firing into them..then I thought it might be to dangerous...then I saw your comment and I think your right.
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I hope we see sometihing soon, this looks like some good fun
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The downward angle of those guns makes me think of how to blindly shoot backwards with the back facing 20mm in the Ar234. Just fly over the trenches and shoot a nice long burst... a bit horrific :uhoh
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If its a mod from an RFC flier in Mesopotamia, I'd say it's definitely for strafing. There was almost no Central air opposition there. Probably for strafing convoys and troop emplacements.
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straifing in WW1 planes: :x
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The downward angle of those guns makes me think of how to blindly shoot backwards with the back facing 20mm in the Ar234. Just fly over the trenches and shoot a nice long burst... a bit horrific :uhoh
I would say hitting slit trenches is about the best answer all the pilot would have to do is line the centre of the aircraft with the trench & just fly low & level over it firing.
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"If its a mod from an RFC flier in Mesopotamia, I'd say it's definitely for strafing. There was almost no Central air opposition there. Probably for strafing convoys and troop emplacements."
It was - the pic shows the four Lewis guns that Lt. Charles Chabot experimentally fitted to his BE to strafe the Turks. He decided to try it out behind his own lines first in case it all went cock-eyed but failed to notice a troop of cavalry nearby, and was given a most almighty bollocking by his CO for frightening the horses when he landed - and ordered to return the Lewis guns to the armoury forthwith. Chabot lived to be a centenarian, so there's some justice in the world.
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Ok....any word yet?, I purchased a leather helmet w/goggles and a scarf, but yet have no crate. :cry
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I know that this is an incredibly difficult task Hitech has undertaken, but they estimated we'd have these birds by the end of '09, but........here we are, 3 months later, still waitin on our first taste of wood 'n' canvas...
I just think Hitech coulda given us a more realistic E.T.A.
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I know that this is an incredibly difficult task Hitech has undertaken, but they estimated we'd have these birds by the end of '09, but........here we are, 3 months later, still waitin on our first taste of wood 'n' canvas...
I just think Hitech coulda given us a more realistic E.T.A.
Agreed. I, like so many in here, really appreciate the game HTC has created and their interaction with the community. You can't find that other places. So when we found out the game would be delayed, it was no big deal, they're busy and we would rather have the game done right than done right away. But, I feel like we've gotten limited details as to what the cause of the delay is. Considering half the planes came out after the expected release it really makes you wonder about how they thought they could do this in that amount of time. I'm worried the release has been built up over the last 5 1/2 months and it won't live up to expectations.
But I say this with the utmost respect for the HTC crew and the work they do. I have no doubt they will release an impressive addition and will quickly and effectively get the bugs out. I look forward to it, but have admittedly lost much of my excitement over it all.
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I can spare you some of my excitement. I've been hearing Spandaus and Mercedes engines in my sleep. :aok :x
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It must have been important with the Bristol F.2B read the stencil under the gunner.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan8-6.jpg)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/australian-war-memorial/3288865828/sizes/l/in/set-72157614020490948/
Question is who is going to have to sit with you back there in AHII. :D
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I know that this is an incredibly difficult task Hitech has undertaken, but they estimated we'd have these birds by the end of '09, but........here we are, 3 months later, still waitin on our first taste of wood 'n' canvas...
I just think Hitech coulda given us a more realistic E.T.A.
They post updates and you're quoting the initial announcement. You could have a more realistic complaint. :neener:
Question is who is going to have to sit with you back there in AHII. :D
Equivalent Weight will sit back there. :D
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It wasn't just the Biff that had this stencil, it was also on any RFC/ RAF two seater that had the obs gunner behind the pilot. The RE8, DH4 and 9A, Armstrong Whitworth FK8, all could be seen with this warning, in addition to the
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" Lift Here " stencil that most British aircraft with wooden structured frames had.