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Title: A WTF moment...
Post by: Ruler2 on December 05, 2009, 01:09:49 PM
Well, thankfully, I finally got my PC back  :x  But I hooked it up and my monitor only has a "No Input Signal" I've removed the GPU, still didn't work, I don't even get to the BIOS screen. I have also tried my VGA cable to see if it had any luck, nothin. The same thing happened to me when I disconneted it last week but it only did it for about 45 seconds, anyone got any ideas as to why it refuses to work now?
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Spikes on December 05, 2009, 01:14:47 PM
My latest problem with no signal was my new DOA vid card. Try reseating it.
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Ruler2 on December 05, 2009, 01:16:05 PM
tried it, nothin. I can't even get the onboard stuff to show anything
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: 68ZooM on December 05, 2009, 01:17:32 PM
do you have an extra card to swap out??   its hard to help when you cant even get into the bios menu, but it sounds like your card took a dump
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Ruler2 on December 05, 2009, 01:57:49 PM
do you have an extra card to swap out??   its hard to help when you cant even get into the bios menu, but it sounds like your card took a dump

And I just got to the BIOS menu, once....   it froze there and wouldn't do anything though
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Ruler2 on December 05, 2009, 02:26:05 PM
I got no idea WHAT the heck is going on. I took the card out again and used the onboard, it went to the BIOS screen, again, I couldn't do anything with it, but I let it keep going and I thought windows was gonna boot... nope, just rebooted to the BIOS and continued that process. I turned it off and back on and now nothing would appear, tried clearing CMOS and it didn't help. I'm wondering if maybe my CPU or HDD is toast...
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: 68ZooM on December 05, 2009, 02:31:57 PM
its locking up in bios?? wont let you in? is it password protected? maybe your MB needs to have the bios flashed with the latest update, or the MB is having issues,can you load the default bios settings? this is puzzling me to lol
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Ruler2 on December 05, 2009, 02:35:37 PM
its locking up in bios?? wont let you in? is it password protected? maybe your MB needs to have the bios flashed with the latest update, or the MB is having issues,can you load the default bios settings? this is puzzling me to lol


not password protected, can't flash the BIOS,the default BIOS settings SHOULD be reloaded, I got a dual BIOS mobo and if I clear the CMOS it is supposed to revert back to normal.
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: 68ZooM on December 05, 2009, 02:40:11 PM
well its not your HD, it will still post (bios) even if its unhooked, sooooooo its beginning to sound like a bad MB, possibly someone reading this thread can help you out more than i can, I'm puzzled  :headscratch:
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Spikes on December 05, 2009, 02:54:31 PM
well its not your HD, it will still post (bios) even if its unhooked, sooooooo its beginning to sound like a bad MB, possibly someone reading this thread can help you out more than i can, I'm puzzled  :headscratch:
Same here, I've had a few of these symptoms (getting to Windows loadup then rebooting) on an older computer, but I eventually gave up and put all the parts into a different chassis, I think it was a bad mobo.
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Tac on December 05, 2009, 03:38:18 PM
usually a bad motherboard will not boot up period. Usually a bad hard drive will either make clicking noises or will load into windows but the performance is horrid.

When a system passes bios checks and starts to load windows and THEN reboots by itself to start the cycle that can be a couple of things:

- windows has been corrupted. Usually it is one of the main windows startup files that is missing. Try booting to a windows CD and going to DOS.. if it does without rebooting then you know its windows.

- overheat issue. Many (if not all by now) mobos and video cards have built in sensors that detect when a card or mobo are overheating and shut down the computer or restart it to save your hardware. Check the fans to make sure they are working properly and also open the side of your computer and put a high power desk fan to blow on it at max while you boot it up to see if its this.

- you said it came back from service? if so there's another possibility: your RAM got swapped. And the ram sticks they put in your system are either crapped out, have the wrong voltage setting for your mobo or could even be not very compatible brand for your system. -ALTERNATIVELY : sometimes shops try to be sneaky or the techs got bored and they overclocked your ram and now your system aint liking it (also causes overheat issue).
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Ruler2 on December 05, 2009, 03:52:30 PM
It isn't a corrupt windows, I can't even get to the pre-boot screen where it runs through all the checks, and IF I am lucky enough to get to the BIOS menu it will not take commands from my keyboard.  It did not come from service, it came from my cousins house where I had to leave it, but it SHOULD NOT have been tampered with or used, I had already disconnected it, I'm wondering if my uncle caused seom "handling" issues
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: trigger2 on December 05, 2009, 03:58:13 PM
Are you getting past POST?
Are you getting POST Beeps (beeps of death)?

If you're getting the 2nd, google the beep codes for your model comp and figure out what it is (on a seperate comp of course).
From the sounds of it, it seems to be a mobo issue.
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Ruler2 on December 05, 2009, 04:03:53 PM
No I am not even GETTING to post, I can only get to the BIOS menu if I'm lucky, then it goes on and reboots and goes back to the BIOS menu, but I can'e enter into anything!  :mad:
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: 68ZooM on December 05, 2009, 04:08:26 PM
Sounds like uncle might of dropped it, if it worked fine before and you unhooked it, Then he brought it to you it should of just booted right up, i think you need to ask your uncle if he dropped it. other than that i think its toast. did he ship it to you or bring to your home?  did you see any kind of damage from possibly being dropped?
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: ebfd11 on December 05, 2009, 04:12:49 PM
Ruler

I had the same thing happen to me no too long ago. I ended up bringing it to a shop and found out it was a bad motherboard. So that is when i decided to do a total rebuild. I scabbed some parts from my old comp and reused them but i know what you are talking about, unfortunately.
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Ruler2 on December 05, 2009, 04:19:06 PM
Ruler

I had the same thing happen to me no too long ago. I ended up bringing it to a shop and found out it was a bad motherboard. So that is when i decided to do a total rebuild. I scabbed some parts from my old comp and reused them but i know what you are talking about, unfortunately.

That's JUST what I didn't want to hear! But I'd rather know the truth than lie to myself to make me feel better,lol
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Tac on December 06, 2009, 12:50:41 AM
oh if it doesnt even get to post then its 100% hardware.

re-seat all the cards and the ram, check cables and connectors.

Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Ruler2 on December 06, 2009, 12:53:05 AM
I already got the mobo requested for RMA from Gigabyte, if the CPU died when I took it out and bent afew pins then I'll send it back too, I'm GLAD I bought those things under warranty!
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: OOZ662 on December 06, 2009, 04:51:41 PM
I recently had this problem due to a faulty power supply. Apparently if there's enough power to start everything up but the motherboard never receives a "good power signal" (read: data from the PSU) it won't initialize.
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: trigger2 on December 06, 2009, 08:23:58 PM
I recently had this problem due to a faulty power supply. Apparently if there's enough power to start everything up but the motherboard never receives a "good power signal" (read: data from the PSU) it won't initialize.

Doesn't really seem plausible as he's sometimes able to get into the BIOS, where, if it's able to get into that stable, it has power enough to run.
It really sounds like a bad mobo. If it's under warranty as you said, it's a fairly easy fix if you find 15 minutesish to spare to hook it all up.

Good luck, and if you need any help, PM me.  :salute
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: OOZ662 on December 06, 2009, 09:47:42 PM
The instance in where it happened to me the PSU was supplying power and the system would power up (fans/hard drives/opticals/floppies) but the monitor wouldn't wake from Power Save.
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: ariansworld on December 07, 2009, 02:27:53 PM
I already got the mobo requested for RMA from Gigabyte, if the CPU died when I took it out and bent afew pins then I'll send it back too, I'm GLAD I bought those things under warranty!

Bent pins are easy to fix, you will need .7 or .5 mechanical pencil. Just be prepared to spend at least an hour and a half working on it.
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: OOZ662 on December 07, 2009, 02:43:34 PM
Bent pins are easy to fix, you will need .7 or .5 mechanical pencil. Just be prepared to spend at least an hour and a half working on it.

I just used a regular pair of needlenoses...though that was a Socket 478. Now I have jeweler's pliers.
Title: Re: A WTF moment...
Post by: Ruler2 on December 07, 2009, 07:16:36 PM
all I needed was a tooth pick, there were only 3 or 4 bent