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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: jimson on December 14, 2009, 12:28:46 PM
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This idea got buried in the end of another thread, so I thought I'd give it it's own to see if anyone thought it had merit.
What if we made some bases more valuable than others? ie: heavy bombers can only up from large airfields.
Might create some ferocious battles for those particular bases.
There's been a lot of complaints about noe hordes dumping bases, and moving on without even trying to defend them.
That won't stop, but maybe a flashing large airfield would then draw a hell of a lot of defenders quick, and maybe the base takers might be more compelled to defend them from counter-attack.
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+1 :aok
Personally, I've always thought the long range B-17s, B-25s and Lancs should not be available to "front line" (i.e. within 2 grid squares of an enemy base) bases...instead make them ony available to large rear bases. Could dampen the number of Lancstuka attacks since not many would want to cross a lot of grid squares at low level in a heavy bomber when they have the time to climb to higher alt.
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Poop...double post...sorry.
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Could dampen the number of Lancstuka attacks since not many would want to cross a lot of grid squares at low level in a heavy bomber when they have the time to climb to higher alt.
And lead to a vast increase of complaints about all those 30k bombers ;)
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And lead to a vast increase of complaints about all those 30k bombers ;)
:rofl Oh my that would be horrendous...you mean they would take the time to do something besides brag about how big their cyber testicles are?
It would give me a better hunting ground when I go buff hunting... :neener:
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At 30,000? They piss and moan when you go 22k in Ki-67's.......
I still laugh about the time I had to come down because I was above the poor 190's max ceiling of 36,000 feet.
He pissed and moaned for hours about that one!
Strip
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Dude! :O You took a bomber above 36k? That's 3 beers and a potty break... :huh
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I like this idea for heavy bombers.
How about restricting heavy bombers to large airfields, medium bombers to large and medium airfields and light bombers being available everywhere?
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I like the strategy this would add beyond just Ports being special. Problem is... if a team is getting steamrolled, how badly will this restrict their ability to bomb the attacking enemy in retaliation?
Just wondering how that dynamic would play out.
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+1 :aok
Personally, I've always thought the long range B-17s, B-25s and Lancs should not be available to "front line" (i.e. within 2 grid squares of an enemy base) bases...instead make them ony available to large rear bases. Could dampen the number of Lancstuka attacks since not many would want to cross a lot of grid squares at low level in a heavy bomber when they have the time to climb to higher alt.
I like this idea. I'm assuming you meant B-24s. Leave the Attack planes at the front line. Perhaps have a blue frame around the airfields with heavy bombers.
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I'm assuming you meant B-24s.
LOL...good catch, didn't see that typo. B-24s for sure.
There would be a lot of whining to start out with...it would sure change some of the dynamics. I don't think bases would get steamrolled by low level heavy bombers...instead we would probably see more medium and light bombers that don't have the capacity to carry 2 ton bombs dropping hangars in one pass...probably more fighter/bomber activity...just have to wonder if there would be an increase in high alt large bomber formations making long range bomb runs to put the finishing touches on a base that's almost ready to go down.
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And it might also decrease the 5k Lanc doing the Carpet Bomb shuffle across airfields!
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This idea has floated around the boards before and I support it.
Would you make it so just big buffs could up from large airfields? Or have the bases fluctuate when the enemy takes bases IE the new cities. Say the big buff airfield is 2 or 3 sectors in from the front, be it a small or large airfield. If the enemy takes a base closer to it, the airfield that once allows them now does not.
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+1 for the idea :aok. Leave the map as it is, right now you usually have big bases mixed in with smaller bases pretty well anyway, so it will make for more strategic levels of play with the fight over front line big bases taking attention from smaller fighter bases. :cheers:
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As a buff pilot I do not want my play ability to be limited anymore than it already is. Making it so that I can only fly my B17s out of a certain field means I could be out of action for a night, or it means I might have to fly an hour or more just to hit an airfield. No, if you're going to restrict bombers then figthers should be restricted to certain airbases as well.
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Good idea Beefcake...disable the fighters at any base where the heavy bombers are enabled so there is zero chance of saving the base if it gets attacked by fighters and bombers. :neener:
Medium and light bombers would still be available everywhere...we're just talking the heavies, especially the Lancs. You do fly medium bombers as well as heavies don't you?
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As a buff pilot I do not want my play ability to be limited anymore than it already is. Making it so that I can only fly my B17s out of a certain field means I could be out of action for a night, or it means I might have to fly an hour or more just to hit an airfield. No, if you're going to restrict bombers then figthers should be restricted to certain airbases as well.
More and more I see how tough a job HTC has, balancing the playability of this game for all.
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Do the buffs then get to start at 30k from the rear base?
HiTech
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Do the buffs then get to start at 30k from the rear base?
HiTech
Errr... :confused:...why would the need to? Starting from a rear base gives the heavy bombers time to climb to a higher alt than the current 5-6k they achieve now when flying to a base 1 grid square away.
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Do the buffs then get to start at 30k from the rear base?
HiTech
Doesn't have to be a rear base, just restrict the heavy bombers to the large bases.
ack-ack
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maybe even give the heavy bombers airstart if they are a few bases behind the front lines, enable it so the heavy bomber airfields move up and down with the front line,
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Errr... :confused:...why would the need to? Starting from a rear base gives the heavy bombers time to climb to a higher alt than the current 5-6k they achieve now when flying to a base 1 grid square away.
You do realize that if a change like that was made, most heavy bombers would be attacking from 25+K?
I say this because many people complain about those "dweeby" alt monkey buff pilots that come in at 30k and can't be hit by most fighters. You guys complain about it yet you want the game to be changed which would almost force that style of game play?
Yeah....
I'm glad Hitech has far more sense than spelling ability. :D
And yes Hitech, buffs get a 30K air start for 30 perk points. :D
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You do realize that if a change like that was made, most heavy bombers would be attacking from 25+K?
I say this because many people complain about those "dweeby" alt monkey buff pilots that come in at 30k and can't be hit by most fighters. You guys complain about it yet you want the game to be changed which would almost force that style of game play?
Yeah....
I'm glad Hitech has far more sense than spelling ability. :D
And yes Hitech, buffs get a 30K air start for 30 perk points. :D
I would never complain about buffs attacking from 25k+...if there were more of them that's where you would find me most often. :D But alas, they're usually found below 10k.
How about for airstart 100 perk points per 1000 feet up to 10,000 feet max?
Or,
Doesn't have to be a rear base, just restrict the heavy bombers to the large bases.
ack-ack
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Dude! :O You took a bomber above 36k? That's 3 beers and a potty break... :huh
She quit climbing at 39,000 feet, was one of those afk for an hour pointed at a distant HQ deal.
Came back at 38,000 and said what the hell lets go for 40,000, didnt make it tho.
Strip
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I would never complain about buffs attacking from 25k+...if there were more of them that's where you would find me most often. :D But alas, they're usually found below 10k.
How about for airstart 100 perk points per 1000 feet up to 10,000 feet max?
Or,
100 perks to save you a little over a minute per thousand feet?
No thanks......maybe one or two perks per thousand feet.
Strip
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No, Id prefer about 25-50 perks per 1000 feet. 100 seems about right. Most guys have MOUNTAINS of bomber perks anyways. If you set it to one-two perks per thousand, you will instantly see HUGE rises in quick bombing raids where they start around 20-25K alt and just trade that alt for speed. WOuld be hilarioust to watch the scrub pilots bust the wings off from pointing the nose down too far too long. :lol
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Shift heavy bomber bases in the same way the strat gets shifted as the front changes. Medium and light bombers flew from forward feilds.
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NO Airstarts!! Although I could just fly around the airspawn collecting proxies as bombers tumble to thier deaths! :x
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I'd be willing to partake in an experiment with this concept. 91st Bomb Group takes off on realistic missions up to respectable altitudes anyway. Would be nothing new. Maybe it would work, maybe not. I'm open to both possible results.
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I still think VBases should have short dirt strips, no rearm pad with One fighter hanger. Fin-Rus Russian front style dirt strips to help defend it and perform nieusance raids. Say HurriC or 109E-F or spit5 or La5. As the heavy bomber bases shift back with the strat, there will always be at least one isolated VBase overlooked by the other sides push. Yes and the fighter hanger will probably get camped from a hill and be the first thing downed by jabbo and bombers. But, the way we forget our back feilds in this game. You suddenly get a call out over country that 30 HurriC with bombs have torn up one of your bases and the M3 is in the town..........
George...ahhh...did the CO ask you or me to flaten V-Oopsies fighter hanger this time? CO to George - this mission you get to deack the feild with a C47......
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+1. I could see this fitting in to "new strat" nicely.
That and bridges.
Oh, and having bases "in supply" or "out of supply" for purposes of being open / shut / able to be captured.
And parachuting dogs.
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I think it would be a good idea to try, having heavy bombers enabled at large fields only. :rock