Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: warphoenix on December 16, 2009, 12:13:37 PM
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in my opinion this game needs more naval forces not just task groups, pt boats, and lvts!I propose task forces made up of:
2 cvs
6 destroyers per cv
2 crusers per cv
new ships for task forces and amout of damage that sinks it:
1 battleship per cv 5,000 lb
4 patrol boats per cv 750 lb
1 super cv 10,000 lb
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Do you realize that the amount of damage you propose for the CV and *laugh* Super CV is actually less than was is currently needed to sink the CV?
ack-ack
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Do you realize that the amount of damage you propose for the CV and *laugh* Super CV is actually less than was is currently needed to sink the CV?
ack-ack
what? normal cv is 8,000
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Warphonex,
What do you think about adding submarines as well? Do you think that's a good addition to your already proposed idea?
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Doesn't WWII online have a sea warfare element like you guys are wanting?
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haha im not trying to be rude so please dont think that but all of this is alot of coding... but ive wanted it so far so im backing this post...again... no super CV though... give us an enterprise though please? submarines though? we'd need depth, ocean currents, sonar, new torpedoes...the sub idea is kinda crazy for this game style that was originally based on planes ya know?
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One can argue that submarines already exist in the game, it's just that you never see them because they are submerged. :D
I was being sarcastic, which is what I usually am on this forum.
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haha im not trying to be rude so please dont think that but all of this is alot of coding... but ive wanted it so far so im backing this post...again... no super CV though... give us an enterprise though please? submarines though? we'd need depth, ocean currents, sonar, new torpedoes...the sub idea is kinda crazy for this game style that was originally based on planes ya know?
ok tho enteprize was the super cv of its day
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ok tho enteprize was the super cv of its day
No, she wasn't. She was no larger than any of her three sister ships (actually, Hornet was bigger than she and Yorktown) and her aircraft compliment was not much, if any, bigger than that of Saratoga and Lexington. The Essex-class carriers were all larger.
Probably the first of what you could legitimately call a supercarrier was Midway, and I'm not sure if she was even in service when the war ended.
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no the midway wasnt in service during the war... and id like the essex class in service in the game also...
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no the midway wasnt in service during the war... and id like the essex class in service in the game also...
Our carrier IS Essex-class. USS Randolph, IIRC.
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really? i thought it was an earlier class..... well then uhhh... im stuck
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No, she wasn't. She was no larger than any of her three sister ships (actually, Hornet was bigger than she and Yorktown) and her aircraft compliment was not much, if any, bigger than that of Saratoga and Lexington. The Essex-class carriers were all larger.
Probably the first of what you could legitimately call a supercarrier was Midway, and I'm not sure if she was even in service when the war ended.
enterprize went from pearl harbor to the ship that made the a-bombings possible
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I have some ideas on the patrol boats:
guns: 1 5 in. single in middle , 1 20mm quad in front , and 5 20mm singles along edge
battle ships:
guns: 4 16in quads batteries for the main, 10 40mm quads serounding the tower, 1 40mm quad in front, 10 5in singles, 5 5in twins, and 30 20mm singles
tell me what you think includs ai guns
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All of the ships in game are/ are going to be based on real ships, not just made up.
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Why not motherland...if you're gonna add ships to the line up...might as well go with whatever anyone wants on them... :headscratch:
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enterprize went from pearl harbor to the ship that made the a-bombings possible
WTF does THIS have to do with anything?
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All of the ships in game are/ are going to be based on real ships, not just made up.
ok not an expert at this stuff you know
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+1 :aok
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Submarines anyone?
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War dogs first...then flame throwers on tanks...before subs. :banana:
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the submarin will only be armed with torpedo tubes and a single 40mm single-barrel machine gun
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the submarin will only be armed with torpedo tubes and a single 40mm single-barrel machine gun
You got it. Plus Hitech can say they are already modeled, but we just can't see them and most of us wouldn't be able to prove otherwise.
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I have some ideas on the patrol boats:
guns: 1 5 in. single in middle , 1 20mm quad in front , and 5 20mm singles along edge
battle ships:
guns: 4 16in quads batteries for the main, 10 40mm quads serounding the tower, 1 40mm quad in front, 10 5in singles, 5 5in twins, and 30 20mm singles
tell me what you think includs ai guns
Ooh ooh! And Patriot II batteries! And a Vulcan! And LASERS!
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Ooh ooh! And Patriot II batteries! And a Vulcan! And LASERS!
its ww2 not worlds at war
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There were lasers during WWII...very primitive but research was happening. If you can wish for ships...ranger can wish for lasers on them.
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There were lasers during WWII...very primitive but research was happening. If you can wish for ships...ranger can wish for lasers on them.
no the concept to develop millitary lasers came about during korea(not including radar)!
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+1 for increasing the naval aspect, to include SUBMARINES!
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Technically a "Super Carrier" is the Nimitz Class.
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Technically a "Super Carrier" is the Nimitz Class.
the super Carriers of WW2 were yorktown class and exsess class+1 for increasing the naval aspect, to include SUBMARINES!
Submarines anyone?
thank you everyone who reminded me about submarine :aok :cheers: :salute
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did somebody say SUPER CV....need i tell the story of our only tourist attraction the gray ghost.
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/rtrodude/USS%20Lexington%2005042009/Dcp04989.jpg)
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the super Carriers of WW2 were yorktown class and exsess class
He just doesn't seem to be getting it...
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did somebody say SUPER CV....need i tell the story of our only tourist attraction the gray ghost.
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/rtrodude/USS%20Lexington%2005042009/Dcp04989.jpg)
um...the enterprize was called the gray ghost and was ordered sunk unfortunetly
and let just forget about the supercarrier idea it was doomed from the start
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warphoenix, Did you know the carrier in Aces High is based off of the Essex Class carriers which were the last class of carriers to be commissioned by the US before the end of the war? Don't mean to sound abrasive lol, but we're all wondering where you get your stats and ideas from. It's hard to say whether or not HT will simply increase the size of the Task Forces
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um...the enterprize was called the gray ghost and was ordered sunk unfortunetly
and let just forget about the supercarrier idea it was doomed from the start
More than one ship can have the same nickname, y'know....
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Warphoenix,
It's EnterpriSe... not Enterprize...
And it's Essex... not Exsess.
Many of us here are veterans... and some of US are Navy vets... so we tend to take a little offense to folks misspelling the names of some of the greatest ships that have ever sailed.
All that aside ye landlubber, yes... the Essex class was the "super carrier" of the WW2 era. And yes... the carrier we have in the game now is an Essex class. So as everyone is telling you, we HAVE the biggest, and best American CV class that was built during the war in the game already.
But the true super carriers as we view them today did not appear until USS Forrestal and her sisters, Saratoga, Ranger, and Independence were built. None of which had keels laid, or were commissioned until the mid to late 1950's.
Some may wish to argue that Midway and Coral Sea were super carriers, but only after they were upgraded in my opinion. Fine ships nonetheless.
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but what i was meaning by supper carrier was a giant jap cv
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but what i was meaning by supper carrier was a giant jap cv
How is a giant jap cv doing anything for supper?
First of all...the Japanese carriers were not super uber gigantonormous behemoths of the seas...do you do any research on this stuff before you post?
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but what i was meaning by supper carrier was a giant jap cv
The IJN had supper carriers? You would think the Japanese carrier's galley would be able to provide enough food to feed their crew without needing a dedicated 'supper carrier'.
ack-ack
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How is a giant jap cv doing anything for supper?
First of all...the Japanese carriers were not super uber gigantonormous behemoths of the seas...do you do any research on this stuff before you post?
yes and the bigest jap cvs could hlod olmost twice as much as the essex class cv
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Giant Jap CV was the Shinano sunk by the Archerfish in the Sea of Japan during sea trials - it was a carrier laid atop the third battleship keel of the Yamato class- excellent book on the subject "Shinano" The sinking of Japans secret supership.
"THE SINKING OF A SUPERCARRIER"
On November 29, 1944, the ImperialJapanese aircraft carrier Shinano was steaming along eight hours into her maiden voyage. Off Shinano's bow, the destroyer Isokaze raced about erratically. The destroyers Yukikaze and Hamakaze duplicated Isokaze's unpredictable movements off both beams of the carrier. Overhead the moon was beginning to drop but visibility remained excellent. Optimism was mounting that Shinano would pass safely through the Pacific waters believed to be swarming with Yankee submarines.
Captain Toshio Abe stood, ...
Enjoy it is a good read
HP51 :cool:
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yes and the bigest jap cvs could hlod olmost twice as much as the essex class cv
Which brings us to the obvious question; how much supper could Essex Class carriers hold?
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Essex class carried 90-100 aircraft (some more, some less)
Most Japanese CV's carried LESS planes than that. The Shinano was designed to carry more (about 130 or so), but never did.
So WarP's math is a tad off...
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Which brings us to the obvious question; how much supper could Essex Class carriers hold?
Good question...and just how super could that supper be sitting out there on that deck?
Giant Jap CV was the Shinano sunk by the Archerfish in the Sea of Japan during sea trials - it was a carrier laid atop the third battleship keel of the Yamato class- excellent book on the subject "Shinano" The sinking of Japans secret supership.
"THE SINKING OF A SUPERCARRIER"
On November 29, 1944, the ImperialJapanese aircraft carrier Shinano was steaming along eight hours into her maiden voyage. Off Shinano's bow, the destroyer Isokaze raced about erratically. The destroyers Yukikaze and Hamakaze duplicated Isokaze's unpredictable movements off both beams of the carrier. Overhead the moon was beginning to drop but visibility remained excellent. Optimism was mounting that Shinano would pass safely through the Pacific waters believed to be swarming with Yankee submarines.
Captain Toshio Abe stood, ...
Enjoy it is a good read
HP51 :cool:
Well, there went Warpuppies supper club ship...sunk and at such a young age.
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did somebody say SUPER CV....need i tell the story of our only tourist attraction the gray ghost.
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/rtrodude/USS%20Lexington%2005042009/Dcp04989.jpg)
That's the Lexington... and she was the BLUE Ghost.
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Ahhh Duh (supper). Motherland everyone knows they carried : two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickle all on a sesame seed bun. :banana:
HP51
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Good posting AKP! :salute. And I even agree with gyrene (note that in the captains log)! :aok :salute
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]I only know what is on the history channel and stuff like that
and there was a resently declassified case of a jap carrier that was about ten stories tall at the middle
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Good question...and just how super could that supper be sitting out there on that deck?
But wouldn't the supper get cold sitting on the deck? Cold meals after a hard days work on the flight line is not a good way to keep spirits up.
ack-ack
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You can't even call the Essex-class super carriers, either. They were of somewhat heavier displacement but not much bigger in size or airgroup than Enterprise after her 1943 refit. The Essex-class weren't even the largest carriers of the war. Shinano out-displaced both by almost double, but she was intended for use as a support ship, not a true fleet carrier.
As was said, the Forrestal-class was the first of what we would define as a "super carrier." Midway was the first American vessel to be given the appelation.
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just forget about the supercarrier idea it was doomed from the start
remember that