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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: AKP on December 19, 2009, 12:17:41 AM
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Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who flew Frame 3... Allied and Axis alike. Wont know the outcome until the logs are posted, but I hope everyone had a good time.
It sounded like there were some good fights going on out there for this frame... I know our strike group had some.
And it seemed like the first part of the Frame was going in favor of the Allies, but from what I could tell, the Axis came back strong with a reversal in the second half. I know Allies took some heavy losses late in the frame.
I learned a lot as my first time as CiC of a frame... had a good time writing the orders, and watching it unfold in the air.
Thanks again everyone.
<S>
AKP
Admin Officer
VF-15 Satan's Playmates II
Allied CiC - Frame 3 PBR
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Just looked at the logs... and from what I can tell, my suspicions are confirmed. Some Allied strike groups fared very well getting to target, and some were hit hard by Axis fighters. Other groups made it to target, and were then mauled by defenders.
We probably would have fared better not mounting second sorties, because it seems that is when the Axis really turned the tide on us.
A big <S> to all Allied squadrons... it was a tough frame with the new settings and the targets we were assigned.
And a big <S> to all the Axis players too... you guys did really well.
Just a few of the stats:
Allied Pilots: 245
Allied Obj Destroyed: 475
Allied Kills: 102
Allied Landings: 87
Axis Pilots: 232
Axis Kills: 198
Axis Landings: 118
Was an exciting, and very BLOODY, evening :)
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Well done AKP! We enjoyed frame 3.. Salute from the WD40.... :salute
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This new-fangled thing called radar is going to start having a big effect on all-defense operations, and even on mixed assignment setups where both sides have defense objectives, once the CiCs learn how to utilize it. I tried asking several times on command if anyone was going to be acting as a radar director, but I don't think it got any consideration.
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Loved the new radar. After I was forced to RTB due to an oil and radiator leak. I spent some time in the tower playing the part of AWAC.
Not as easy as one would think. Particularly later in the frame after people got separated and enemy cons in 4 different but neighboring sectors.
Just trying to remember who is where to direct them to the nearest enemy con is a challenge. And sometimes. Even if you get them in the right general area. they still might not see their quarry.
But it was a hell of alot of fun. I hope its like that more often.
Suggestion to those planning offensive operations. Break the groups up into smaller formations coming in from differing directions. Use alot of misdirection and decoy flights. When a group comes in en masse' it becomes very easy to vector large groups of defenders to that area.
Great setup though.Hard to describe it accurately but it combines the elements of regular game play. With a fast moving almost chess like atmosphere
GREAt JOB
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This new-fangled thing called radar is going to start having a big effect on all-defense operations, and even on mixed assignment setups where both sides have defense objectives, once the CiCs learn how to utilize it. I tried asking several times on command if anyone was going to be acting as a radar director, but I don't think it got any consideration.
Time to consider turning off the flashing "base alert" if radar is manable and visable from the tower. Just curious, since I didn't check out the radar veiw from the tower, can you see radar blips on the entire map?
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You could only see contacts within radar rings. Even friendlies weren't visible unless they were flying within a radar ring.
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What Chapel said.
I don't know of a way to turn off the 'warning/flashing' base alerts. That is tied to the radar. Once an enemy, (depending on the type of enemy) bombers, fighters, vehicles, is in the radar ring it will start flashing.
Glad you enjoyed it DRED. :)
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So who won point blank range?
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I like the new radar dot on the maps foe defensive. However, will we be seeing the "porking the radars" ahead of the main forces?
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I don't know of a way to turn off the 'warning/flashing' base alerts.
Set warning range to zero... Its tied to proximity and not the radar I believe.
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Set warning range to zero... Its tied to proximity and not the radar I believe.
Correct... but perhaps dont set it to zero... maybe 1/2 what the radar range is set at. That way, radar is important, but your "ground spotters" will still be able to report a base or strat under attack even is dar is taken down.
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Correct... but perhaps dont set it to zero... maybe 1/2 what the radar range is set at. That way, radar is important, but your "ground spotters" will still be able to report a base or strat under attack even is dar is taken down.
Agreed since strats have no radar of their own no need to go too nuts with limiting. In fact I don't see the need to adjust warning system regardless of radar.
Just my opinion.
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Agreed since strats have no radar of their own no need to go too nuts with limiting. In fact I don't see the need to adjust warning system regardless of radar.
Just my opinion.
Well for this last frame, radar AND warning ranges were bumped out to 15 miles. If radar had more range than visual warnings, then it would make the radars even more important... but still have the limited back up to the warning range.
Might be something to try and see how it works.
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What Chapel said.
I don't know of a way to turn off the 'warning/flashing' base alerts. That is tied to the radar. Once an enemy, (depending on the type of enemy) bombers, fighters, vehicles, is in the radar ring it will start flashing.
Glad you enjoyed it DRED. :)
Best addition I've seen to the game in a long time.
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So who won point blank range?
Working on the scores today. Will post them tonight or Sunday.
Set warning range to zero... Its tied to proximity and not the radar I believe.
Rgr Stoney.
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Well for this last frame, radar AND warning ranges were bumped out to 15 miles. If radar had more range than visual warnings, then it would make the radars even more important... but still have the limited back up to the warning range.
Might be something to try and see how it works.
I always use 8 mile warning range, because, for the most part, that would duplicate a person on the ground "seeing" or "hearing" the aircraft.
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We were having a great night, right up to the bit where we forgot about the new radar settings and had the AK's vectored in on top of us. It went downhill rather quickly after that :furious:D
New settings are cool - will be interesting to see how we develop tactics to make the most of them.
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We had an....interesting night.
Our 163s were waiting on the runway at 46 for word to launch to cover V36. We launched in time to get over the base and saw one or two P-51s skedaddling, my guess after taking down DAR. Unfortunately by the time we found the attack's main body they were already into their dives.
163s just aren't suited for scrapping with jabbo P-47s on the deck. We got four of them but the V-base was leveled. Our losses were one compression and crash, and may have had one shot down after running out of gas. A third was rammed engaging a pair of P-51s after apparently flaming one, but he crashed before the kill was recorded. A fourth I think crashed attempting landing at the V-base.
Had we gone after high-altitude bombers I'm sure we would have fared better.
The best thing about flying those 163s:
Wind layer? WHAT wind layer! :D
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Time to consider turning off the flashing "base alert" if radar is manable and visable from the tower. Just curious, since I didn't check out the radar veiw from the tower, can you see radar blips on the entire map?
The thing about doing this is that it will force squadrons (or perhaps some people designated by the CIC or something) to have someone watching dar instead of flying. And since fields are locked after first contact with the enemy, the dar operator will not get a chance to fly. I don't mind doing it after I inevitably die :D, but I'd like to get to fly first.
If we can come up with a way for it to work though, I'm all for it.
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The thing about doing this is that it will force squadrons (or perhaps some people designated by the CIC or something) to have someone watching dar instead of flying. And since fields are locked after first contact with the enemy, the dar operator will not get a chance to fly. I don't mind doing it after I inevitably die :D, but I'd like to get to fly first.
Ding ding, we have a winner... This why I hope FSO doesn't go down this road...
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The thing about doing this is that it will force squadrons (or perhaps some people designated by the CIC or something) to have someone watching dar instead of flying. And since fields are locked after first contact with the enemy, the dar operator will not get a chance to fly. I don't mind doing it after I inevitably die :D, but I'd like to get to fly first.
If we can come up with a way for it to work though, I'm all for it.
Could always not volunteer to be the AWACS controller.
I actually enjoyed it. It becomes almost like a chess game. But as I mentioned more difficult then one would think. especially when your unit gets split up.
then you have to try to remember who is where and get them going in the right direction. Which is basically a best guess because you have to lead your people not to where the enemy is. But where you think they are going to be when your people get there. With vis range limited. If your off even a litle bit. They can miss them entirely.
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Could always not volunteer to be the AWACS controller.
I actually enjoyed it. It becomes almost like a chess game. But as I mentioned more difficult then one would think. especially when your unit gets split up.
then you have to try to remember who is where and get them going in the right direction. Which is basically a best guess because you have to lead your people not to where the enemy is. But where you think they are going to be when your people get there. With vis range limited. If your off even a litle bit. They can miss them entirely.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,220122.0.html
Problem solved.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,220122.0.html
Problem solved.
A solution that shouldnt be implemented though.
Yes it would make it easier to tell who is who. But from a realism/immersion standpoint it would dummy down that aspect of it too much.
Part of the fun is in trying to remember who is where and IRL they wouldnt have been color coded. Hell the two different sides wouldnt even have been color coded.
No I think the color coding for each side is enough. You could tell who was where because their icon lit up as soon as they transmitted on vox. the thing was remembering who was who,where.
Its perfect the way it is now. Or was in this FSO.
The challenges is what made it fun.
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Actually they did have color coding or something similar in WWII. IFF allowed radar operators to seperate out friendly and enemy aircraft. It also allowed individual settings for certain situations.
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Ahh I had forgotten.. "Parrot" and "Squawk"! How could I forget that. There were 10 preset codes available which changed every day. When IFF was requested you were told to "Squawk" your parrot, or to turn it off to "Strangle" your parrot!
Good layout of fighter control over the channel.. http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/WW2/RAF%20Fighter%20Control%20System.htm
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We were having a great night, right up to the bit where we forgot about the new radar settings and had the AK's vectored in on top of us. It went downhill rather quickly after that :furious:D
New settings are cool - will be interesting to see how we develop tactics to make the most of them.
Actually the radar was porked there, we just happen to have a scout that saw you. However, after I collided with one of you, I did use the adjacent radar to vector the remaining AK's on your egress. :devil
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Wish I was there. :cheers:
*Thinks Fencer is secretly the Head Curator for the USAAF Historical Society, and SHEAF Preservation Organization... Then again, he could just be the Trail Boss and Sheep Wrangler of all times. One never knows*
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HAPPY NEW YEAR, guys!
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