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Title: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Yossarian on December 20, 2009, 11:04:06 AM
If you see a little kid out on the street talking in a high voice (your own son, perhaps?), would you go over to him and begin teasing him about his high voice, and how his balls haven't dropped?  I sincerely hope not.  Just because this is a game does not make such behaviour acceptable over vox.


EDIT: Removed names to comply with rule #8.  I'll just say that the worst player I saw today is ranked among the 'top' five in the game.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Lusche on December 20, 2009, 11:07:25 AM


SQUEAK!






sorry... couldn't resist   :neener: :bolt:
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: StokesAk on December 20, 2009, 11:07:32 AM
werd.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Yossarian on December 20, 2009, 11:08:49 AM
Meaning you think squeaker-bashing is just fine?



And yeah, this was a rant.  But an exceptionally well-deserved one.  Also, yes I have sent the film in.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: kilo2 on December 20, 2009, 11:09:50 AM
Agreed making fun of kids as an adult is low.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Lusche on December 20, 2009, 11:11:36 AM
Meaning you think squeaker-bashing is just fine?

No.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Nilsen on December 20, 2009, 11:38:30 AM
Squeaker bashing is not ok, but muting them has health benefits  :angel:
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Masherbrum on December 20, 2009, 11:39:32 AM
If you see a little kid out on the street talking in a high voice (your own son, perhaps?), would you go over to him and begin teasing him about his high voice, and how his balls haven't dropped?  I sincerely hope not.  Just because this is a game does not make such behaviour acceptable over vox.


EDIT: Removed names to comply with rule #8.  I'll just say that the worst player I saw today is ranked among the 'top' five in the game.

Top 5 Overall.  

Hoagi
Pacerr
Lusche
SHawk
Chalenge

 :uhoh

Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Masherbrum on December 20, 2009, 11:40:08 AM
Squeaker bashing is not ok, but muting them has health benefits  :angel:

Yep.   When the Helium contents exceed proper levels, squelch is the only remedy.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: mbailey on December 20, 2009, 12:54:10 PM
Agreed making fun of kids as an adult is low.

QFT
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Bronk on December 20, 2009, 01:05:24 PM
If you see a little kid out on the street talking in a high voice (your own son, perhaps?), would you go over to him and begin teasing him about his high voice, and how his balls haven't dropped? I sincerely hope not.  Just because this is a game does not make such behaviour acceptable over vox.


No I wouldn't. That being said...  if my son was being a pain in the arse to every adult within earshot he'd get a talking to. That is just me though, some people don't mind there kid's throwing a tantrum in the middle of a mall.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: ROX on December 20, 2009, 01:11:32 PM
I don't think squeekers get as much grief over their voices as they do transmitting non-stop and N00bishness.  Last night a knight let his kid play on his account--much to the dismay of knights who had to put up with it.  He transmitted (squeek--squeek---squeek) nonstop, shot at friendlies, and seem to have no concept of the game.  It would be far better if AH parent players monitored the gameplay of their kids.

Get ready---the Holiday Squeeker Season in underway until the week after new years.  

ROX
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Masherbrum on December 20, 2009, 01:12:42 PM
I don't think squeekers get as much grief over their voices as they do transmitting non-stop and N00bishness.  Last night a knight let his kid play on his account--much to the dismay of knights who had to put up with it.  He transmitted (squeek--squeek---squeek) nonstop, shot at friendlies, and seem to have no concept of the game.  It would be far better if AH parent players monitored the gameplay of their kids.

Get ready---the Holiday Squeeker Season in underway until the week after new years.  

ROX

I actually agree with ROX.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Motherland on December 20, 2009, 01:14:06 PM
I don't think squeekers get as much grief over their voices as they do transmitting non-stop and N00bishness.  Last night a knight let his kid play on his account--much to the dismay of knights who had to put up with it.  He transmitted (squeek--squeek---squeek) nonstop, shot at friendlies, and seem to have no concept of the game.  It would be far better if AH parent players monitored the gameplay of their kids.

Get ready---the Holiday Squeeker Season in underway until the week after new years.  

ROX
This
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Steve on December 20, 2009, 01:17:37 PM
Today's squeakers can be next year's players.(read as paying customer too)
With the natural attrition of the player base, it's a good thing to get new players.
Tonyjoey would own anyone in this thread and he was a squeaker.

Exeption:  The Generals. Since friendly conversation with them usually just leads to the General calling you a moron, bash them mercilessly. They move on eventually anyway, for the most part.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Bronk on December 20, 2009, 01:24:42 PM
"Squeaker" has more to do with an attitude than how high an octave their voice is.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: E25280 on December 20, 2009, 01:25:07 PM
"Squeaker" has more to do with an attitude than how high an octave their voice is.

I was just about to post the same thing.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 20, 2009, 01:28:33 PM
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Bronk on December 20, 2009, 01:35:18 PM
:rolleyes:
Then there is Bip..... dweeb. ;)
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Shifty on December 20, 2009, 01:48:42 PM
If you see a little kid out on the street talking in a high voice (your own son, perhaps?), would you go over to him and begin teasing him about his high voice, and how his balls haven't dropped?  I sincerely hope not. 

No I wouldn't. However I wouldn't be forced to share a hobby with him either and endure his childish behavior.
Try and understand some folks would prefer to participate in hobbies without children being involved. Some children would prefer to participate in hobbies where no adults are involved. When I was a youth we didn't get involved in the same games with adults and vice versa. We didn't want to and they didn't want to. The internet has pretty much given us a situation where the generations can't escape each other to compete or participate among themselves so you get these clashes.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: dmdchief on December 20, 2009, 02:09:25 PM
  You know there is a way those "squeakers" can change their voice in windows and make it a deep voice if they wanted to, so I don't think those that get bashed is a octave thing as much as it is an attitude.

  Not long ago I went to a special events thing that had a "sqawker" as the cm and I assure if I go to another one and that individual ("I AM IN CHARGE, AND THEY PUT ME IN CHARGE SO THEY HAVE CONFIDENCE IN ME, AND I AM GOING TO VOLUNTEER IN THE FUTURE SO I WILL BE IN CHARGE A LOT IN THE FUTURE, SO GET USED TO IT".); is in charge I will just leave and go back to the main.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: John Curnutte on December 20, 2009, 02:11:43 PM
No I wouldn't. However I wouldn't be forced to share a hobby with him either and endure his childish behavior.
Try and understand some folks would prefer to participate in hobbies without children being involved. Some children would prefer to participate in hobbies where no adults are involved. When I was a youth we didn't get involved in the same games with adults and vice versa. We didn't want to and they didn't want to. The internet has pretty much given us a situation where the generations can't escape each other to compete or participate among themselves so you get these clashes.

 Shifty I have to agree with you on this , its ( The Clash of the Generations ) a new happening in our time and it all comes down to how we behave and or accept others in a wide age range .
                           Nutte :salute
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: John Curnutte on December 20, 2009, 02:16:59 PM
 dmdchief ;  I remember that event . It stands out perfectly in my mind . This individual had supporters on both sides of the issue good or bad . I will say this though that kid had a tough job of riding herd on a pack of adults who recoiled at the mere thought of him doing the job . But in the end he stuck it out , and that is more than most kids would do .
                        Nutte :salute
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Rich46yo on December 20, 2009, 02:19:08 PM
Today's squeakers can be next year's players.(read as paying customer too)
With the natural attrition of the player base, it's a good thing to get new players.
Tonyjoey would own anyone in this thread and he was a squeaker.

Exeption:  The Generals. Since friendly conversation with them usually just leads to the General calling you a moron, bash them mercilessly. They move on eventually anyway, for the most part.

And the difference between the squeeker General and the 45yo General is exactly what? Both get squelched by me.

Anyone who would pick on a noob just cause he/she was young is a schmuck and has no place among us. But there is a difference between humor and meaness.


Lately tho its been the older Generals tieing up the Vox with their ongoing life story and AH expereince. I guess they never heard of a private channel.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 20, 2009, 02:21:46 PM
Then there is Bip..... dweeb. ;)
Me as a father of 2. No way id let my kids play this game.There is no way HT will ever stop the bashing on vox or text.Unless he gets rid of both.

I always thought an "anything goes" arena would be good.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 20, 2009, 02:27:43 PM
Lately tho its been the older Generals tieing up the Vox with their ongoing life story and AH expereince. I guess they never heard of a private channel.
Bombrich right? ill make sure to tune vox to you and let it all out. :noid
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: vonKrimm on December 20, 2009, 02:30:00 PM
Tangently related is the abuse on two-weekers, usually squeakers, wherein we ( the old guard) go and kill them over and over; all the while poking fun at them.  I try mightily to not run-up my k/d ratio on these guys, give (pathetic) advise and have even switched sides to better communicate or even outright defend (again, pathetic as I might be as a stick) them so that they CAN become the players of tomorrow.  I really do think harassing them on vox or chat is the lowest.  Take a chance and be a mentor; you'll get more satisfaction when they start killing your arch-nemisis on a regular basis than if you kill them for two weeks and never see them again.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Shamus on December 20, 2009, 02:32:49 PM
"Squeaker" has more to do with an attitude than how high an octave their voice is.


Exactly, the young son of one of our squadies plays fairly often, a truly delightful young gentleman, and funny as all get out too.

shamus   
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Stampf on December 20, 2009, 02:35:44 PM
Exactly, the young son of one of our squadies plays fairly often, a truly delightful young gentleman, and funny as all get out too.

shamus   

Werd.

My youngest is following his older brother and has begun live.

I told him "This is an adult squadron".  That's all he needed. 

Plenty of adults playing that are more annoying than plenty of the kids.



Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 20, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Meaning you think squeaker-bashing is just fine?


Squeaker bashing is just as American as apple pie and baseball. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: texasmom on December 20, 2009, 02:58:37 PM
I love the squeakers (got a few of them myself).  They have a love and enthusiasm for this game that most adults don't. 
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Bear76 on December 20, 2009, 03:01:59 PM
Squeaker bashing is just as American as apple pie and baseball. 


ack-ack
I'm still waiting to hear your voice on vox. Slash says you're really a chick, well he has fantasies anyway :D
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 20, 2009, 03:06:28 PM
I'm still waiting to hear your voice on vox. Slash says you're really a chick, well he has fantasies anyway :D

Before my microphone jack on my sound card died, I used this program (probably the same one BluKitty uses) that allows you to change your voice and one of the selections was 'baby' and was using that vox effect one day for a couple of hours.  It annoyed the crap out of my squadron mates.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 20, 2009, 03:06:33 PM
I'm still waiting to hear your voice on vox. Slash says you're really a chick, well he has fantasies anyway :D
Thought that was Mensa. Might be all of SAPP
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Spikes on December 20, 2009, 03:56:42 PM
None of those top 5 are squeakers?
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 20, 2009, 04:06:42 PM
Thought that was Mensa. Might be all of SAPP

Mensa has enough emotional baggage and low self esteem due to her grossly disfiguring Lazy Eye and limp caused from her peg leg, we don't need to constantly remind her that she's a butterface.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: lilsquid on December 20, 2009, 04:23:18 PM
As a squeeker give it time their voices (Like Mine) will get deeper Trust me
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Yossarian on December 20, 2009, 04:30:28 PM
None of those top 5 are squeakers?

No, one of them was acting like an absolute jerk towards a squeaker.  The squelch & ignore feature would have been far better practice, but was evidently above this guy's maximum maturity level.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Lusche on December 20, 2009, 04:40:41 PM
No, one of them was acting like an absolute jerk towards a squeaker.  

Being one of that names  I have to say: What you did is worse than explicitly naming the culprit. You say you are not naming him because of the rules... but at the same time you are indirectly naming 5 players and put the suspicion on everyone of them  
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Steve on December 20, 2009, 04:49:04 PM
And the difference between the squeeker General and the 45yo General is exactly what? .

I never said there was a difference..
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: fudgums on December 20, 2009, 05:09:07 PM
Yossarian plays the game?
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 20, 2009, 05:10:34 PM
Yossarian plays the game?

Not sure but he is a squeaker  :D


ack-ack
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Becinhu on December 20, 2009, 05:19:18 PM
Before my microphone jack on my sound card died, I used this program (probably the same one BluKitty uses) that allows you to change your voice and one of the selections was 'baby' and was using that vox effect one day for a couple of hours.  It annoyed the crap out of my squadron mates.


ack-ack
I need that program. Maybe I can force a squaddie into therapy.  :noid
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 20, 2009, 05:53:54 PM
I need that program. Maybe I can force a squaddie into therapy.  :noid

The one that gave me the most laughs was the Darth Vader voice, used to use it on a buddy and would say "Who's your daddy?" after shooting them down.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: grizz441 on December 20, 2009, 05:59:52 PM
Someone let me know what the age cut off is for griefing somebody acting like a whiny punk.  Last night I heard that apparently 17 is too young.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Rich46yo on December 20, 2009, 06:21:16 PM
Bombrich right? ill make sure to tune vox to you and let it all out. :noid

Oh man where did they find this guy. :huh
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Wagger on December 20, 2009, 07:00:45 PM
I have a daughter who on occassions will start playing when I'm away from the keyboard.  And yes she will shoot at friendlies.  Fortunate for those in Aces High she can't fly worth a damn.  There is one big difference between her and some adults though.  She knows its just a game.  So far my reputation as low as it might be has survived.  Unfortunately the continuous non stop talking can not be squelched at the source.   
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Yossarian on December 20, 2009, 08:19:31 PM
Yeah, I play the game.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Stang on December 21, 2009, 10:09:34 AM
It had to be pacerr.  Just had to be...

And Ack-Ack... LOL.

Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: mike8318 on December 21, 2009, 10:30:48 AM
Personally,it's not the pitch of voice that's irritating. It's the non-stop chatter from one,or between a couple of them,not realizing that there are other players in the area.We don't need updates every 5 seconds about what you doing.Then, Right in the middle of a fight someone wants to know how to drop bombs,or something that should be learned in the TA or offline. Learn tactics off line,and learn radio etiquette.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Banshee7 on December 21, 2009, 10:48:13 AM
There is no way HT will ever stop the bashing on vox or text.Unless he gets rid of both.

Or gets rid of a few players
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Yossarian on December 21, 2009, 11:02:07 AM
Or gets rid of a few players


Or just take away their vox privileges for a while if they don't tone it down.

Personally,it's not the pitch of voice that's irritating. It's the non-stop chatter from one,or between a couple of them,not realizing that there are other players in the area.We don't need updates every 5 seconds about what you doing.Then, Right in the middle of a fight someone wants to know how to drop bombs,or something that should be learned in the TA or offline. Learn tactics off line,and learn radio etiquette.

That's what squelch is for...
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: coola4me on December 21, 2009, 11:27:08 AM
The best ones are

367867453: "MAYDAY MAYDAY IM HIT IM GOIN DOWN!"
675893722: "OMG IM ON FIRE HOW DID THAT HAPPEN..... WILL I BE OK?"
548965465: "HOW DO U DRIVE A JEEP?"

.squelch
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: coola4me on December 21, 2009, 11:28:41 AM
Double post Sorry
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 21, 2009, 12:29:32 PM
Or gets rid of a few players

:rofl He would have to get rid of 65% of the people flying
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: saantana on December 21, 2009, 12:40:10 PM
This thread should be directly linked to my post on the Wishlist forum.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,280113.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,280113.0.html)

This feature would eliminate squeeker bashin'.

Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Shuffler on December 21, 2009, 12:49:53 PM
My favorite I heard was an obviously young and new kid saying...

"can someone bring me some bandages, I crashed and I can't get up".
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: gyrene81 on December 21, 2009, 12:59:34 PM
No I wouldn't. That being said...  if my son was being a pain in the arse to every adult within earshot he'd get a talking to. That is just me though, some people don't mind there kid's throwing a tantrum in the middle of a mall.

I don't think squeekers get as much grief over their voices as they do transmitting non-stop and N00bishness.  Last night a knight let his kid play on his account--much to the dismay of knights who had to put up with it.  He transmitted (squeek--squeek---squeek) nonstop, shot at friendlies, and seem to have no concept of the game.  It would be far better if AH parent players monitored the gameplay of their kids.

Get ready---the Holiday Squeeker Season in underway until the week after new years. 

ROX
QFT on both accounts. No one should have to go through the trouble of squelching regardless of the age of the offender...it just so happens that some people haven't taught their kids any better than to be an annoyance to others in any manner. You don't want your kids offended, discipline them so other people don't have to.


On the other hand...many of the so called adults in the arenas are more annoying than any 5 year old imaginable. Try setting a positive example for the squeekers...shining your cyber testicles in a video game with a couple of hundred other people is not a positive example.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: saantana on December 21, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
QFT on both accounts. No one should have to go through the trouble of squelching regardless of the age of the offender...it just so happens that some people haven't taught their kids any better than to be an annoyance to others in any manner. You don't want your kids offended, discipline them so other people don't have to.


On the other hand...many of the so called adults in the arenas are more annoying than any 5 year old imaginable. Try setting a positive example for the squeekers...shining your cyber testicles in a video game with a couple of hundred other people is not a positive example.

Squeekers have access to plenty of cyber testicles these days, as it is.

Cause you really think they will click 'I'm under 18'.  :rofl
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: redwing7 on December 21, 2009, 01:24:44 PM
The best ones are

367867453: "MAYDAY MAYDAY IM HIT IM GOIN DOWN!"
675893722: "OMG IM ON FIRE HOW DID THAT HAPPEN..... WILL I BE OK?"
548965465: "HOW DO U DRIVE A JEEP?"

.squelch

I get a kick out of seeing chatter from "squeakers" like the first one. We should all be so lucky as to get that immersed in this game.
The second one is just plain make me chuckle.
And as for the third style, I would rather see silly questions as opposed to most of the "normal" smack talk, bashing, and rants that happen just as much. And the solution for those is the same as the other, a simple squelch is far more effective than making an arse out of ones self.

 :salute
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: coola4me on December 21, 2009, 01:46:19 PM
I get a kick out of seeing chatter from "squeakers" like the first one. We should all be so lucky as to get that immersed in this game.
The second one is just plain make me chuckle.
And as for the third style, I would rather see silly questions as opposed to most of the "normal" smack talk, bashing, and rants that happen just as much. And the solution for those is the same as the other, a simple squelch is far more effective than making an arse out of ones self.

 :salute


I have heard the first two on more than one occasion in MW! I just threw that last one in for good measure! :devil I agree whole heartily about not making a fool/arse of ones self bashing a new/young player! :aok
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: bustr on December 21, 2009, 06:29:04 PM
In AW DAMND-BM left his flackpanzi sitting on the end of the runway and went to the bathroom. His 6 year old daughter hopped into his seat and shot at every airplane that spawned a few feet away from her for the next 5 minutes. Many sqweekers are just trying to learn from the adults around them by emulating them without the benefit of knowing how everything works. The overwhelming majority of us just hopped into this game and never went for "How Everything Works Lessons" in the TA. What makes us so special to denigh everyone after us that privlage?

Thus the Sqweekers never learn the golden rule in AH: Adults can act rotten, Sqweekers(children) are to be seen and not heard no matter how badly the adults are acting.

So with the way we act on range and ch200, why do you expect sqweekers to behave better than us adults? And why is our normal adult ROTTEN conduct any better than theirs? Thats what they are inundated with the moment they first ever pop into a tower. You guys make enough POSTS in this Forum to headline each others ROTTEN conduct. Do as I say not as I act come to mind guys? But, hey, the littel cuties are only acting like the other people playing the game, and they are all taught adults are right so act like your elders.....

Quite a few of us want the game to be our exclusive adult only nudi bar with a "XXXX" rating. Most conveniently forget the owner of the bar never said it's rating was any lower than "G". And you become proportionantly indignant in this Forum when ever the owner reminds you through moderator power of the limits to ROTTON adult behavior. And again for the (millionth x trillionth) time the question is: What makes your $15 a month better than a sqweekers $15 a month in a family freindly entertainment center?

So gentelmen, all the rhetoric and canards aside. Lets take a vote and send it as a petition to the owner of this entertainement center rather than villify CHILDREN for the umpteenth time.

How many of you want a minimum age restriction enforced on all players in the game to protect OUR adult behavior from THE children?

5
6
10
12
13
18
25
30
40
50

Lord knows our nightly conduct as adults could get an R rating for this game if whoever puts those ratings on PC Box games were to logon and listen to VOX and the text buffer for a week. You think any of those childrens parents do that? Heck, BiPolar won't even let his children near us and we all know the infamous BiPolar of the muppets. Now thats BAD for a family freindly entertainment center don't ya think fellas?
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: EskimoJoe on December 21, 2009, 06:32:13 PM
Agreed making fun of kids as an adult is low.

I'm 15 and I sound like a 30 year old pedophile. Does that mean I can bash kids my own age, as long as I don't tell them 1) I have candy and 2) They should come to my van?
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: grizz441 on December 21, 2009, 06:39:53 PM
Agreed making fun of kids as an adult is low.

I'm still waiting for someone to define some things for me.  What defines an 'adult' and what defines a 'kid'.  Is an 18 year old making fun of a 17 year old an adult bashing a kid?  How young does a tard have to be to be off limits?  Please, somebody let me know what the age cutoffs are here.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: bustr on December 21, 2009, 07:02:03 PM
How OLD do you have to be to understand bashing people and the need to define other people as less than yourself with derogitory naming descriptors is more about yourself than them? We supposed adults play on EXACTLY the same level as all those sqweekers getting bashed here abouts. The only difference between us is: Do as I say, not as I do, because I'm a GRUP and know......
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Motherland on December 21, 2009, 07:04:31 PM
Lord knows our nightly conduct as adults could get an R rating for this game if whoever puts those ratings on PC Box games were to logon and listen to VOX and the text buffer for a week.
Do you really think AH is anywhere near is bad as mainstream FPS games like Counterstrike or Modern Warfare 2?
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: grizz441 on December 21, 2009, 07:15:43 PM
How OLD do you have to be to understand bashing people and the need to define other people as less than yourself with derogitory naming descriptors is more about yourself than them? We supposed adults play on EXACTLY the same level as all those sqweekers getting bashed here abouts. The only difference between us is: Do as I say, not as I do, because I'm a GRUP and know......

Bustr, I've seen you bash players plenty.  As has waystin, the nicest guy in Aces High.  Do you guys ask the ages of players you bash before you go off on them?  Even the word 'bash' is entirely subjective and has a wide range for interpretation.

I'm playing devil's advocate here, but seriously, what are the age cut offs for criticizing somebody?
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 21, 2009, 07:22:45 PM
Bustr, I've seen you bash players plenty.  As has waystin, the nicest guy in Aces High.  Do you guys ask the ages of players you bash before you go off on them?  Even the word 'bash' is entirely subjective and has a wide range for interpretation.

I'm playing devil's advocate here, but seriously, what are the age cut offs for criticizing somebody?

I called Nisr a timid unskilled twit last night, so we know the cut off isn't before 39.   :D


ack-ack
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: vonKrimm on December 21, 2009, 07:42:55 PM
I called Nisr a timid unskilled twit last night, so we know the cut off isn't before 39.   :D


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this is a prime example of an admitted adult acting as mature as a five year-old in a blood sugar drop fit.  Why not take the person you shot down aside and show then HOW to fight instead of ridiculing them?

just saying we ALL should check how we behave in-game we do from time-to-time.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 21, 2009, 07:57:57 PM
this is a prime example of an admitted adult acting as mature as a five year-old in a blood sugar drop fit.  Why not take the person you shot down aside and show then HOW to fight instead of ridiculing them?

just saying we ALL should check how we behave in-game we do from time-to-time.
i love how guys like you (that have "bashed" come on here and act all holy. Give me a break. :rolleyes:
i see nothing but a bunch of hypocrites
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 21, 2009, 08:02:22 PM
this is a prime example of an admitted adult acting as mature as a five year-old in a blood sugar drop fit.  Why not take the person you shot down aside and show then HOW to fight instead of ridiculing them?

just saying we ALL should check how we behave in-game we do from time-to-time.

I have tried to take the person aside numerous times, even one point took him to the DA to show him the maneuvers that caused his demise.  If you've ever encountered Nisr and his constant whines on open channel, it's rather difficult to teach someone something when they insist that you've gamed the game or cheated in some fashion.  Some people bring on the insults themselves, Nisr being a prime example.  

I recall a few temper tantrums on open channel coming from you in the MW arena, in fact you even used to try and bait people so you could have an excuse to .report them.

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Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: flatiron1 on December 21, 2009, 08:13:32 PM
.squelch 1
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: grizz441 on December 21, 2009, 09:05:37 PM
Why not take the person you shot down aside and show then HOW to fight instead of ridiculing them?

Anyone who asks me a question I will always give them an informed answer as to what happened and why they died.  I will even send film to anyone who requests.  As for going to the DA/TA with them to work on things at that very moment...that depends on my mood.  I don't pay $15/mo to spend hours teaching people how to fly in the DA/TA but I will do it from time to time.  Most people learn ACM on their own.

Here are the steps to becoming an ace:
Step 1: Film your sorties.
Step 2: When you die to someone better, watch the sortie from yours and his perspectives and see what he did.  Think about what you could have done differently, most times you will figure it out no your own but if you absolutely cannot, start a thread in the Help and Training, post the film trimmed down and ask for analysis.
Step 3: Practice 1v1s in the DA with vets who are in there mixing it up at a side base.  They will NEVER turn you down.  The more the merrier, just make sure you know the rules of engagement.
Step 4: Always be learning from your failures.  If you keep doing the same thing wrong over and over again and fail to make an adjustment, you will never get better.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: mensa180 on December 21, 2009, 10:14:45 PM
my friends they im thuper and really coot.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: greens on December 22, 2009, 12:01:15 AM
OUCH my ears eskimojojo. oh yah "SQUEAK"
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: vonKrimm on December 22, 2009, 09:38:52 AM
i love how guys like you (that have "bashed" come on here and act all holy. Give me a break. :rolleyes:
i see nothing but a bunch of hypocrites
I have tried to take the person aside numerous times, even one point took him to the DA to show him the maneuvers that caused his demise.  If you've ever encountered Nisr and his constant whines on open channel, it's rather difficult to teach someone something when they insist that you've gamed the game or cheated in some fashion.  Some people bring on the insults themselves, Nisr being a prime example.  

I recall a few temper tantrums on open channel coming from you in the MW arena, in fact you even used to try and bait people so you could have an excuse to .report them.

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Hence, my use of the words "...we ALL..."  I never tried to impart that I myself have not on occasion in the past exhibited the same behavior.  Sorry if ya'll or anyone else interpreted my post to mean that I am spotless.

(from the BlackBerry; so screw the punctuation)
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: twitchy on December 22, 2009, 02:40:51 PM
I don't really mind the younger players, and have met alot of them that were very respectable players (like 'stealth', I was amazed to find out how young he was). They are the next generation of flight sim players and we should be welcoming them to our ranks, if it wasn't for the influx of new players, we would all go the way of Atari and become extinct.
My only complaint is, as some of the others have mentioned, the constant play by play on channel from some of them. "I'm going to shoot this guy", "I'm going to turn left", "he's shooting at me"... I think the response from alot of us is to call them squeakers and start bashing them for their age and that's not right especially when comming from an 'adult' who supposedly knows better.
Instead of calling them squeakers, I think it would probably be more productive to tell them specifically what our problem is with them, i.e. "We don't need to know everytime you pull your trigger." would be far more constructive than a "Shut up you stupid squeaker."
Bustr once made an excellent point about the anonimnity of the internet actually intensifying personality, if a person is a dk head in real life, he is doubly so on the internet, that said, I think alot of us sure as hell wouldn't be bashing someone else's kids in person so I'm not sure why it's acceptable to do it in game unless your just a jerk in real life. Give them a break, help them out, tell them to STFU if they talk too much, but don't lower yourself to bashing people because of their age, that's just a nasty way to be to anybody and only serves to lower the standards of the fight sim community.
Act your age in other words, and don't be surprised if the younger players do the same.  :aok
-Twitchy
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 22, 2009, 03:51:15 PM
It had to be pacerr.  Just had to be...

And Ack-Ack... LOL.


him or chalenge, i just seen him bashing a new guy in the MA. i took screen shots of "his holiness almighty never do wrong" doing it. I love hypocrite butt kissers.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Yossarian on December 22, 2009, 04:11:59 PM
him or chalenge, i just seen him bashing a new guy in the MA. i took screen shots of "his holiness almighty never do wrong" doing it. I love hypocrite butt kissers.

Nope, you have the wrong two in this case :)
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Banshee7 on December 22, 2009, 04:17:04 PM
Was definitely SHawk.  He's such a jerk :P
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: kilo2 on December 22, 2009, 05:12:16 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to define some things for me.  What defines an 'adult' and what defines a 'kid'.  Is an 18 year old making fun of a 17 year old an adult bashing a kid?  How young does a tard have to be to be off limits?  Please, somebody let me know what the age cutoffs are here.

I was not trying to vilify you grizz or imply that you are low. I honestly don't know if you bash squeakers and could really care less. I was making a general statement which for some reason every time I make one you seem to think it is directed at you.

You don't need people to set limits on age because I am sure you know what a kid is and you know what an adult is.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: grizz441 on December 22, 2009, 05:19:08 PM
I was not trying to vilify you grizz or imply that you are low. I honestly don't know if you bash squeakers and could really care less. I was making a general statement which for some reason every time I make one you seem to think it is directed at you.

You don't need people to set limits on age because I am sure you know what a kid is and you know what an adult is.

Huh?  I was replying to your general statement in general terms myself.  Just because I quoted your general post does not mean I thought it was directed at me. 

And yes I bash players occasionally.  Usually they don't have their age atop their CPID so I never really know.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: bustr on December 22, 2009, 07:00:49 PM
Bustr, I've seen you bash players plenty.  As has waystin, the nicest guy in Aces High.  Do you guys ask the ages of players you bash before you go off on them?  Even the word 'bash' is entirely subjective and has a wide range for interpretation.

I'm playing devil's advocate here, but seriously, what are the age cut offs for criticizing somebody?

Most of my so called bashing is of the flavor: "It took you and 5 freinds to kill me alone, SHEESH.<S>" and some occasions in frustration "grow a pair".....I'm not as elloquent and accomplished as many muppets to my shame. Maybe I should take private lessions in game elocution from you gentelmen. My lack of elocutional ability is equal to my lack of ACM in the game against any of your squad's membership.

Otherwise I'm very aware many players are generations younger than myself and unlike some of the muppets and long time players we both know, I have no previous rapport to judge the impact of opening a conversation with them. Insulting(bashing) a stranger seems a bit like randomly sucker punching someone in a bar. I never aquired a comfort with boy to boy locker room insulting(bashing) nor do I insult(bash) people in the public sphere. It's not my nature or temperment. Though I will dialogue and use syntactic imagery here in this forum from time to time as contextual illustrations.

I've always been impressed with adults who do the right thing in the face of their emotions and never needing to ask other adults what the right thing is. How young is too young is not the real question Grizz. What is the right thing to do as an adult? When did we abrogate that responcibility? I would think $14.95 per month is way too cheap a price for us to abrogate doing the right thing.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Simba on December 22, 2009, 07:09:45 PM
Suffer the little children . . .

Aaaaaaaaaaw.

 :cool:




Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: W7LPNRICK on December 22, 2009, 07:52:14 PM
Up here in Idaho we shoot squeakers for target practice. "Whistle Pigs" "Squeakers" "Mini Prairie Dogs" whatever you want to call them & we still don't hate them, but I don't like watching them cannibalize the wounded ones dragging them back down the holes. "I'm hit Dad, Save me!", "Stop wiggling & Don't talk while I'm eating!".  :x
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: TheflyingElk on December 22, 2009, 09:54:13 PM
 :headscratch: I really start to wonder why some of these self righteous self serving blow hard holy-er than tho types must continue to act as self appointed moderators for the rest of the player base. Last time I checked we pay out $$ to HTC,  let them set the mark, I get really tired of the so called friends of the community feeling like they have to call attention to themselves by pointing out the so-called failings of others, no KID every exploded from any text message on a silly Online game, get over it get over yourselves and play nice move on sheesh :huh
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Chalenge on December 23, 2009, 04:12:15 AM
I was witness to the whole thing and the 'top five guy' (and why the rest of us got dragged into this is ridiculous it has nothing to do with rank) was right about the CV and what it was doing and the NOOB (I dont know that he was a kid) wouldnt shutup until the guy your talking about couldnt hold his mouth anymore at which point he was very wrong.

No it wasnt me.  :neener:
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Chalenge on December 23, 2009, 05:56:25 AM
And just for clarity... Bipolar has it wrong... the SHADE in question had made an obvious flub and given himself away as an experienced player.

But Bipolar knows it all right? Judge and jury. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 23, 2009, 06:15:42 AM
And just for clarity... Bipolar has it wrong... the SHADE in question had made an obvious flub and given himself away as an experienced player.

But Bipolar knows it all right? Judge and jury. :rolleyes:
yeah ok, have a good one your holiness  :aok
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Chalenge on December 23, 2009, 12:41:04 PM
yeah ok, have a good one your holiness  :aok

Your a funny one to be pointing fingers there bub.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: grizz441 on December 23, 2009, 07:32:38 PM
Your a funny one to be pointing fingers there bub.

BiP was only pointing out the hypocrisy of the holier than thou preacher stance you took with him and I in another thread.  If you're going to put yourself on a moral pedestal then be careful what you say and do in the game.
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Steve on December 23, 2009, 07:52:23 PM
BipTard



lmao!
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: USRanger on December 23, 2009, 08:16:54 PM
Ahh, so many Amazinhunks.  So little time to recruit. :D
Title: Re: Bashing squeakers
Post by: Chalenge on December 23, 2009, 08:19:35 PM
BiP was only pointing out the hypocrisy of the holier than thou preacher stance you took with him and I in another thread.  If you're going to put yourself on a moral pedestal then be careful what you say and do in the game.

I do watch what I say online oh ignorant one. Like I said the NOOB we are discussing is a shade. Try to keep up.