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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Minotaur on November 07, 1999, 12:32:00 AM
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HTC;
I know this plane does not hit "The 20 most wished for planes this Christmas!". Please take a closer look at it.
This plane defines "Rolling Thunder".
http://www.accessweb.com/users/mconstab/tempest.htm (http://www.accessweb.com/users/mconstab/tempest.htm)
The Tempest has almost P-51 speed, matches FW-190 4x20mm cannon and altitude performance, and is the only plane to sport a 5 bladed propeller. This one is a brute, call it "Big Mo". Or should it be "Big Mah"? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I am sure this next one will get done right after Christmas, I can't wait!
http://www.compass.dircon.co.uk/Hayate.htm (http://www.compass.dircon.co.uk/Hayate.htm)
And, of course this one also...
http://www.inn.nl/~menace/images/gallery4/image21.htm (http://www.inn.nl/~menace/images/gallery4/image21.htm)
Mino
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Huh? The Griffon-engined Spitfires usually had 5 blade props, and some 6 blade contra-rotating props, but the Tempest only had 4.
I think the Tempest V would be a good alternative to the Spitfire XIV. Less climb and lower ceiling, but with better guns and high-speed handling. Can carry 8 rockets too. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Juzz;
Oops, thanks.
I guess the Tempest MK V had only 4 blades. I was looking at the Tempest Sea Fury and got confused.
http://search.totavia.com/gallery/markm/markm06.htm (http://search.totavia.com/gallery/markm/markm06.htm)
DUH! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Mino
[This message has been edited by Minotaur (edited 11-07-1999).]
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Only 400 Tempest V were in service during WW2.
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and how many TA152's and DO335's ????
Curly
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Even if i am a LW preferring guy the tempest seems to be interesting. (Don't forget the Ta 152 if it happens to see virtual service)
Counting numbers the Typhoon seems to be more interesting though.
werewo
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There were maybe 150 Ta 152's built. Probably only a dozen or so made it into combat.
As far as I know the Do 335 was not issued to a combat unit.
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How many planes did LW have serviceable at the time when Ta 152 was in service. How many planes did the Brits have serviceable when the Tempest was in service?
Guess which one, Ta 152 or Tempest, made up a bigger chunk of the operational air force?
//fats
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I don't think production of a/c was Germany's main problem; lack of oil, fuel, and trained pilots was.
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Yeah that's true. I have a Luftwaffe "Order of Battle" from April 1945 that lists strength of each unit. I'll look at the exact totals tonight, but the proportion of Ta 152's was still bloody low.
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The first Tempest Mk V's first saw service in April 1944, first two units to be equiped with the Mk V were Nos 3 and 486 Squadrons.
The first 600 a/c were ordered in 2/42 the first of these a/c flew in 6/43.
The Mk V was actually very successfull against the V-1's shooting down 638 of 1,771 of them between middle of June and early 9/44. However, one of the major problems of the Mk V was overspeeding of the propeller resulting in a failure of the engine lubrication system, this problem was quickly resolved by the indroduction of modified propellers.
In terms of performance the Mk V was comparable to the D-9 in which it was 9 mph faster and had a considerable lower wing loading per sq/ft, 38 compared to the D-9's 48 (woah), just imagine a Ta-152! The Hawker had a superior climb at 4,700 ft/min, D-9, 4,200ft/min. However the Hawker's main forte was at low to medium altitudes while leaving high alt fighting to the spit XIV which was superior to the FW 190A and 109G.
805 Mk V's were built.
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"Then I played the trump. The Spitfire was clawing wildly through the air, trying to follow me in a roll, when I dropped the nose. The Thunderbolt howled and ran for earth. Barely had the Spitfire started to follow--and I was a long way ahead of him by now--when I jerked back on the stick and threw the Jug into a zoom climb. In a straight or turning climn, the British ship had the advantage. But coming out of a dive, there's not a British or a German fighter that can come close to a Thunderbolt rushing upward in a zoom. Before the Spit pilot knew what had happened, I was high above him, the Thunderbolt hammering around. And that was it--for in the next few moments the Spitfire flier was amazed to see a less maneuverable, slow-climbing Thunderbolt rushing straight at him, eight guns pointed ominously at his cockpit."
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The increase in performance between the early series Tempest V with low-boost Sabre IIA..
..through to post-war Tempest F6 with high-boost ADI-equipped Sabres is significant..
From ~376mph @ S-L, & 426mph @ ~18,000ft for early MkV..
..to ..~390mph @ S-L, & 435mph @ ~18,000 -for later [but still wartime] Mk V..
..to ..~418mph @ S-L, & 455mph @ ~18,000ft for F6 Tempest..
Are these performance increases available/relflected in the game?
I'll post ref's on req'..
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JAW, you just replied to a thread from 1999. Yes, fourteen years ago.
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:noid :bolt: waiting for the assorted necro bump pics.
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Dude...I was three years old last time this thread was on the front page :rofl
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Well, according to the rules, multiple threads on the same subject are, like frowned upon..
& how 'bout an answer to the query?
Y'now, rather than needless bio-posting..
or other extraneous what-not..
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Dude...I was three years old last time this thread was on the front page :rofl
I was busy playing the GOTY 1999 "Homeworld"
(http://gamingtrend.com/wp-content/screenshots/homeworld/taiidani-beams.jpg)
(http://de.ign.com/pictures/articles/17554/240379.jpg)
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I was busy playing the GOTY 1999 "Homeworld"
(http://gamingtrend.com/wp-content/screenshots/homeworld/taiidani-beams.jpg)
(http://de.ign.com/pictures/articles/17554/240379.jpg)
homeworld was great!
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If you don't have an active account you can still download the game
and test fly whatever you want. You can also visit AHWiki:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Tempest_Mk_V
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If I recall correctly, the Tempest in AH does 386mph on the deck.
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Appreciate the affirmative responses, thanks..
Too bad.. its a bit - unrealistically - slow..
What about the Vne? Got 540mph IAS @ 10,000ft?
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Appreciate the affirmative responses, thanks..
Too bad.. its a bit - unrealistically - slow..
What about the Vne? Got 540mph IAS @ 10,000ft?
seems data doesn't exactly support your belief...
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/tempest/tempest-V.html (http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/tempest/tempest-V.html)
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_hawker_tempest.html (http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_hawker_tempest.html)
i don't think the one in ah has the sabre 2b engine in it...the specifics may be in another discussion somewhere on these boards.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Tempest_Mk_V (http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Tempest_Mk_V)
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'Belief' is not a requirement, but thanks for the interest..
Late-war Tempest V specs..
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/tempest/tempest-v-ads-Sabre-IIb.jpg
& I`ll dig out the F6 data..
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Ok.. post-war Tempest F6.. & similar [a bit faster..] in performance to Centaurus engined Mk2..
.. note graph line marked 'Standard Tempest 6'..
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1948/1948%20-%201660.html
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Dude...I was three years old last time this thread was on the front page :rofl
I keep getting surprised by the idea that my on-line flying career is much longer than the ages of many of todays players. :aok
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I keep getting surprised by the idea that my on-line flying career is much longer than the ages of many of todays players. :aok
It still wierds me out a little when I find players who've been playing Flight/Combat flight Sims longer than I've been on this planet o.O
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It still wierds me out a little when I find players who've been playing Flight/Combat flight Sims longer than I've been on this planet o.O
pffft we all know your 43 red. The rouse is up :neener:
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Alright everybody.. so.. party like its 1999..
& when was that 'Last Starfighter' video-flight-sim movie released..or was it Tron?
Anyway, this bloody post has lasted as long as.. the 'thousand year Reich'..
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The Millenium was awesome, I was 14 and already punishing my liver. :D
GTA London 1969, Driver, SWAT3, Rollercoaster Tycoon and Baldur's Gate were fun that year.
(http://www.old-games.com/screenshot/6266-3-microsoft-combat-flight-simulator-wwii.jpg)
I was flying on Microsoft Combat Flight sim that was released a year earlier :)
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Holycrap, I forgot all about the song they made just for HW1!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2AhjhYWDUM
Now I just want Gearbox to use the IP they got, make Homeworld 1 with new graphics and a few SMALL changes they used in Cata and HW2 (and not stuff it up!). I will even replay all the missions even if they are 100% identical to the first.
1. I want to micro manage my fighters! Don't place them in groups of 5 that can regen "free" ships as long as 2-3 can dock.
2. Free Camera movement from 2.
3. Don't add "tracking heavy weapons" and not allow both missiles/beams/guns on the same ship below dreadnought or battlecruiser class. I hated how heavy guns in Cata could render all your fighters useless after the plasma shot was researched!
4. No Warp gates. That is what your Hyperspace generator is for.
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/313/qwaarjetii.jpg)
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I keep getting surprised ....
Old age'll do that to you. :lol
(Er ... us)
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Old age'll do that to you. :lol
(Er ... us)
Brooke recieves us all :old:
he is in fact 19 :old:
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Brooke recieves us all :old:
he is in fact 19 :old:
I've known him since he was three, then. :headscratch:
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I'm at least 25, since I started playing Air Warrior in 1988.
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I'm at least 25, since I started playing Air Warrior in 1988.
Lol
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Driver and Rollercoaster Tycoon were my favorite games when i was younger too bad they did not remake them