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Title: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: fudgums on December 24, 2009, 07:38:51 AM
  Talking around the dinner table with relatives that family up north don't get to see often and the subject of HAARP, came up. As the conspiracy around the table began to escalate into a family argument. As one side of the family facts that in the first Iraq war, thousands of soldiers surrendered to this super weapon. Yet, the other side of the family said that it was impossible. As for me, I had no idea what HAARP was, so with my friend of google.I looked up HAARP, of course my first search showed me that the "Classic Harp of Early Germany was worth 125.00". But eventually I came across a few sites(posted at the bottom). Personally I call myth but thats just me.


 http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=15422

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-83486.html

http://www.orgoniseafrica.de/skywatch.html
fud
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Viperius on December 24, 2009, 07:56:28 AM
You will have more luck searching for "scalar weapons" then searching after haarp  ;)

Theory goes back to Nicola Tesla and was first adapted by the soviets after the WW2. Also a good documentary is "HAARP Holes in Heaven"

Myth or not thats an awful lot of power you can generate with that phased array theyve built in Alaska.
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Ghosth on December 24, 2009, 08:36:53 AM
How do you think they are screwing with the weather all over the place?

Cept I don't think the modern harp arrays look like that.

Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: APDrone on December 24, 2009, 08:59:48 AM
Very interesting topic, Fud.. thanks for posting that.  Never heard of it.

10 MW powering that array ( 3.6MW radiating power ) ...

WOW.   :O

We have an Air Force HF post outside of town here.. they showed us their 10KW amplifiers they use.  Pretty big tubes for those puppies!

That 4th link has to be one of the most  :noid  links I've ever seen! 

Quote
The striped structures are attributed to chemtrails, while the blankets, looking like ripped cotton are most often attributed to HAARP like technologies.

According to some independent researchers who had the fallout tested, chemtrails contain heavy metals like barium and -astonishingly- desiccated blood cells with micoplasma spores.

Probably a LEO birdstrike..  :rofl
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: trax1 on December 24, 2009, 09:38:05 AM
This subject was just on the TV show Conspiracy Theory on TruTV, personally I don't think any of the mind control claims are valid, but using it to manipulate the weather may be possible.

Btw, has anyone else seen this show, it's ridiculous the way they take some things and exaggerate or blow them way out of proportion, including Jesse Ventures tough guy attitude.
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Ruler2 on December 24, 2009, 09:53:35 AM
http://www.orgoniseafrica.de/skywatch.html


 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl   Blame all your problems on America, that sounds about right!

All your other links do have some pretty interesting stuff though  :aok
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: fudgums on December 24, 2009, 10:07:34 AM
This subject was just on the TV show Conspiracy Theory on TruTV, personally I don't think any of the mind control claims are valid, but using it to manipulate the weather may be possible.

Btw, has anyone else seen this show, it's ridiculous the way they take some things and exaggerate or blow them way out of proportion, including Jesse Ventures tough guy attitude.

Seen it, havn't seen the episode about HAARP. Saw the one on Global warming, quite boring IMO.
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Reschke on December 24, 2009, 10:33:28 AM
Saw the one on HAARP...same thing just more blah, blah, blah stuff though. I did like the link to the EX UN official who has never really done anything other than work for the UN but apparently has more at stake with the "global warming" and carbon credit BS than anyone else other than Al "I invented the internet" Gore.
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: trax1 on December 24, 2009, 10:39:53 AM
I did like the link to the EX UN official who has never really done anything other than work for the UN but apparently has more at stake with the "global warming" and carbon credit BS than anyone else other than Al "I invented the internet" Gore.
That was the only episode I kinda liked, other then that one the others are just ridiculous, I think one of the funniest parts of the show is when he's sitting at that table in the dark room with his team having a totally scripted conversation acting like there putting together a real investigation, and that black European chick is annoying as hell too.  The one episode I refuse to watch is the one on 9/11 & how it was a government conspiracy, it insults the memory of those that died.
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: AKKuya on December 24, 2009, 11:26:11 AM
Shhhh....   This is how Santa gets the energy he needs to fly around the world in 24 hours and deliver millions of toys to all the good little boys and girls each year.  This is how he gets the snow on the rooves of dwellings in high temperature areas.

I will neither confirm or deny any of what I just posted. :noid
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Denholm on December 24, 2009, 11:46:44 AM
http://www.orgoniseafrica.de/skywatch.html

Wow, some people just amaze me. If that guy ever payed attention, he would have realized the "X" in the sky happens to be a vapor trail and the "ripped cotton effects" happen to be cirrostratus clouds disturbed by winds aloft.


LOOK! That bush wiggled! I told you BigFoot was real!
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Motherland on December 24, 2009, 12:00:24 PM
http://www.orgoniseafrica.de/skywatch.html

Wow, some people just amaze me. If that guy ever payed attention, he would have realized the "X" in the sky happens to be a vapor trail and the "ripped cotton effects" happen to be cirrostratus clouds disturbed by winds aloft.


LOOK! That bush wiggled! I told you BigFoot was real!
Did you see those red clouds???? Clearly government mind control devices!!!!


A normal effect at sunset?? Noooo way!!!!
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: mensa180 on December 24, 2009, 12:08:38 PM
I lol'd.
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: texasmom on December 24, 2009, 05:18:09 PM
This subject was just on the TV show Conspiracy Theory on TruTV, personally I don't think any of the mind control claims are valid, but using it to manipulate the weather may be possible.

Btw, has anyone else seen this show, it's ridiculous the way they take some things and exaggerate or blow them way out of proportion, including Jesse Ventures tough guy attitude.

http://www.trutv.com/shows/conspiracy_theory/episodes/index.html
Here's a link to the episode list. Haarp is one of them listed.
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Yeager on December 24, 2009, 05:22:28 PM
lol must be quite the family you have there  :rofl
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: trax1 on December 24, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
http://www.trutv.com/shows/conspiracy_theory/episodes/index.html
Here's a link to the episode list. Haarp is one of them listed.
Even the description of the 9/11 episode makes me mad, that's one episode of that show I will definitely never watch.
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: fudgums on December 24, 2009, 07:17:13 PM
lol must be quite the family you have there  :rofl

Bad bait
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Saurdaukar on December 24, 2009, 07:56:44 PM
teh pentagawn was neuked!  I sawer it!
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Penguin on December 24, 2009, 10:31:54 PM
What is this HAAARP you speak of, good sir?  :headscratch:

-Penguin
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Sonicblu on December 25, 2009, 11:02:36 PM
LOL two different things going on here.

1. haarp is real.

2. What it does or what can be done with it is up to debate.

3. All govt's  put our well being before anything else. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Willfly on December 26, 2009, 07:09:54 PM
Very coincidentally a couple months ago at an Amateur Radio one of the members of the HAARP project (also a member of the meeting group) gave the group a little lecture on the capabilities of HAARP. It is possible that the HAARP array is capable of pumping enough radiation into say, a missle, enough to screw it's electronics up (like a magnet screwing up your TV screen). Whether or not it can do all of everything else that conspiracy theorists are stating is, as others noted, up to debate. I won't go so far as to say that such things are impossible.

This kind of stuff is nothing old, in the 70's, the Soviet Union build their Duga Arrays...also known as "Wooddonut" antennas which were a step towards over-the-horizon radar, and so named because it made a repetitive patting noise on radio frequencies around the world. Interestingly, one of the developers of the HAARP project was actually the DESIGNER of the Wooddonut

HAARP wasn't even around during the first gulf war.

The dude in the fourth link was most likely pretty honkin bored.

Thinking about it, I really wish I knew more about it but half of the lecture was language that only a ham radio operator could understand. Give the HAARP team a buzz! talk to ham radio operations, there's plenty of em around. Just don't imply anything conspiracy related or they'll get annoyed lol.
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Paxil on December 26, 2009, 10:57:17 PM
Willfly, I was stationed at Ft. Wainwright Alaska during the first gulf war and there were rumors back then about strange antenna arrays. Well... they were not rumors... there was definitely talk about the antenna arrays... the rumors were about what they were being used for.
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Willfly on December 26, 2009, 11:50:32 PM
Willfly, I was stationed at Ft. Wainwright Alaska during the first gulf war and there were rumors back then about strange antenna arrays. Well... they were not rumors... there was definitely talk about the antenna arrays... the rumors were about what they were being used for.

Hmm, you might be thinking of the HIPAS Observatory which conducts similar ionospheric research about 30 miles to the NE of Ft. Wainwright. The HAARP facility is about 250 miles to the SSE. The reason the two facilities are only a few hours apart is likely because both facilities are trying to take advantage of the unique qualities of the ionosphere above them that allow them to improve the quality of their experiments where other locations would not allow them to benefit as much.

PS: It appears that the vulgarity filter has substituted (the-bird-that-uses-it's-beak-to-hack-through-tree-bark) with "Woodonut." I also meant to say this stuff is "nothing new"
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Strip on December 26, 2009, 11:59:47 PM
I think I read the energy density output by the antenna at the altitude of research is magnitudes less than what the sun exposes the same area to.

Strip
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Paxil on December 27, 2009, 12:35:08 AM
Very well could be Willfly. I just remember that whatever it was was a bit hush hush. It wasn't until years after I was out of the military that I heard of HAARP and wondered if the two were connected.
Title: Re: HAARP- Myth or Fact?
Post by: Halo on December 27, 2009, 11:15:06 PM
HAARP was the prototype (Hypothetical) of what is now the mature weapon system called American Association of Retired People (AARP).   :old:  No joke, AARP is a powerful lobbying force that will just about automatically enroll you when you reach 50 years of age. It is the quasi official notification that you are about to enter senior citizenry.

(WARNING: Acronym Diversion follows [not quite a thread hijack]): The two main problems with acronyms are too many groups share them, and too many groups don't sufficiently spell out what their acronym means.  Even SAC sometimes represented things much different from the "Peace Is Our Profession" Strategic Air Command.

Acronyms can breed arrogance. Even in its internet home site, periodicals, mastheads, and advertisements, AARP is rarely spelled out. That's pretty brazen for an organization that sounds like a seal (arctic, not Easter).  For example, the definition in the first sentence of this post is wrong.

AARP apparently stands for the Association of American Retired Persons. But don't bet on it unless somewhere it shows up in an official AARP site or publication. Good luck finding that. 

When a search gets that frustrating, the result is often "Who cares?" Close enough.