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Title: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: LLogann on December 25, 2009, 09:07:21 PM
Blue Arena Christmas night..........  Bishops won the war but............

(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8748/ahss63.jpg)

Something is screwy.
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: The Fugitive on December 25, 2009, 09:12:11 PM
ya, I didn't know anyone could win the war ! :noid
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: LLogann on December 25, 2009, 11:45:29 PM
Fighter Jock.........  :)
ya, I didn't know anyone could win the war ! :noid
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: warhed on December 26, 2009, 01:13:18 AM
Are you asking why they did not win the war at that point in your screenshot?  If so, you need 90% of your own bases.

If that's not what your asking, sorry!
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: The Fugitive on December 26, 2009, 06:53:54 AM
Are you asking why they did not win the war at that point in your screenshot?  If so, you need 90% of your own bases.

If that's not what your asking, sorry!

If you look close, you'll notice that the "blue" IS bishops, and they clearly have the 90% needed, and the Knights, who are labeled as having 100% are down to  only 6 fields.
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: Chalenge on December 26, 2009, 01:00:32 PM
I think thats the problem... somehow after the fields were recaptured they are not marked as Bishops fields as far as the arena counts them.
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: Soulyss on December 26, 2009, 02:16:24 PM
n/m answered my own question.
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: 715 on December 26, 2009, 02:26:55 PM
The text is giving what Bishops own, i.e. they own only 44.4% of (what started out as) their own fields, 100% of (what started out as) Knight fields, and 40.7% of (what started out as) Rook fields.  So the "win" criteria is apparently not quite semantically correct?  Bishops win because they own more than 90% of the original number of fields they start with (although not the actual starting fields) and more than 40% of the other countries starting fields???  Kinda confusing.  Or is the OP saying Bishops didn't win with the map as shown?  (Which would be consistent with the win criteria given.)
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: LLogann on December 26, 2009, 02:39:06 PM
All this thinking and yet, you don't realize that the map itself has an issue.......  Knight/Bishop fields got somehow reversed.  In essence.......  The only way to reset this map is to knock the other 2 countries down to uncapturables in order to reach 90% own fields, which in this map are erroneously displayed.

The text is giving what Bishops own, i.e. they own only 44.4% of (what started out as) their own fields, 100% of (what started out as) Knight fields, and 40.7% of (what started out as) Rook fields.  So the "win" criteria is apparently not quite semantically correct?  Bishops win because they own more than 90% of the original number of fields they start with (although not the actual starting fields) and more than 40% of the other countries starting fields???  Kinda confusing.  Or is the OP saying Bishops didn't win with the map as shown?  (Which would be consistent with the win criteria given.)


We just need HTC to reset the map manually, or it will never go away. 
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: Chalenge on December 26, 2009, 04:55:49 PM
Actually you could let the rooks win it... but that would just be wrong.  :D
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: Dream Child on December 26, 2009, 09:24:30 PM
As I recall, taking a CV doesn't count for the win, so if the field that was captured to put you over the 40% necessary was a CV, then that would be it.
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: Chalenge on December 26, 2009, 11:47:03 PM
DC everytime a Bishop captures a knight field the Bishop fields percentage increases.
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: Dream Child on December 27, 2009, 09:43:00 PM
DC everytime a Bishop captures a knight field the Bishop fields percentage increases.

Either I didn't explain what I was talking about very well, or you didn't read very well. If the Bishops owned a port but not the CV, to get the CV they would have to sink it and wait 7? minutes for it to respawn. At that point, the Bishops would have "captured" that base, but you can't win the war by capturing (sinking) a CV even though that may put you over 40% of enemy fields. You will still need another base capture.
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: Banshee7 on December 27, 2009, 10:03:22 PM
I seem to recall winning wars with a CV capture....
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: Chalenge on December 28, 2009, 04:03:10 AM
Yes I believe CVs count but thats not the point here.
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: Dr_Death8 on December 28, 2009, 11:30:36 AM
Was playing this map yesterday off and on all day as a Knit and seen all kinds of issues.  This whole map needs to be doublechecked as there were issues of river barges coming into Tower at P14, grass at P14 extends well beyond docks, bases slow to change color once captured, A16 had NME CV group right on shore and base did not flash, and knits had similiar issue as Bish as about 1130 EST I checked war status and it stated the Knits owned 100% of the Bishop bases and ~40% of the Knit bases. :headscratch: Sorry no screenies though.

I must admit, I like the snowman the M3 deliver. Was driving around away from maprooms and dropping 1 troop at a time, they would just stand around looking as if someone made a snowman there.
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: bravoa8 on December 28, 2009, 12:24:42 PM
Either I didn't explain what I was talking about very well, or you didn't read very well. If the Bishops owned a port but not the CV, to get the CV they would have to sink it and wait 7? minutes for it to respawn. At that point, the Bishops would have "captured" that base, but you can't win the war by capturing (sinking) a CV even though that may put you over 40% of enemy fields. You will still need another base capture.
Yup cvs do count.
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: Spikes on December 28, 2009, 01:30:59 PM
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s162/spikesx/Aces%20High%20II/ahss29.jpg)

Yeah...we definitely have 14% of Bish fields. :)
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: Dream Child on December 28, 2009, 11:07:17 PM
Yup cvs do count.

They used to count. Don't think so anymore, as I've seen a CV capture take us over 40% but not get the win until another base was captured.
Title: Re: Bishops DO NOT win this war?
Post by: coola4me on December 29, 2009, 12:55:41 PM
.......A16 had NME CV group right on shore and base did not flash,

Base will not flash from cv being close to enemy filed unless somebody ups from it.