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Title: need help on takeoff
Post by: icejaff on December 28, 2009, 03:39:29 PM
hey i can fly alright but i only realy have problem with take off and landing can you guys guide me through it i start on low
throttle then i turn onto a long stript and go full speed insept my plane goes side to side when going down it which makes me crash
also when in air how do i make sure i keep up lol not full  down
ok and how do i land i just cant do it.
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: Ghostbuster on December 28, 2009, 03:53:51 PM
On take off use: Auto Take off
I'm still struggling with manual take off myself.

On landing: Come in slow: less than 200 mph when you go over the beginning of the strip
                Come in low and use flaps.
                Put gear down and slowly land don't smack the ground try hovering over the strip like you don't want to touch it than put it down.
                Cut the throttle and use brakes.
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: morfiend on December 28, 2009, 03:58:10 PM
 First off I suggest you go here....   http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/


 And read abit.

 Then it would help to know what your using as a controller,ie mouse or joystick.

 In the meantime,go to options,preferences,flight. then enable auto takeoff,this will allow you to atleast takeoff and work on your landings,be sure to not touch controller until you have sufficient altitude to control the plane.

 As for landing,lineup a long way out and begin to slow,drop flaps and continue to slow.once you reach 150mph or less drop gear,some planes a capable of dropping at higher speeds but ignore this for now.

 When you have both flaps and gear down,use the throttle to control your rate of desent,try to maintain between 500 and 1000 fpm rate of drop.Once over the runway and low allow plane to settle,then flair and touch down.

  I suggest using the P38 as it has no torque and makes takeoffs and landings abit easier,when you have that down move to a single engine plane and work on that.

 Hope that helps,



   :salute
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: icejaff on December 28, 2009, 04:06:38 PM
nice advice both of you
and mortified i am bomber command sorry lol no p4 what ever for me :P
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: shppr01 on December 28, 2009, 04:07:35 PM
I agree with Morfiend But if you still want to try taking off manually try pulling back on the stick to help maintain a straighter line it always helps me . that is if you are using a stick  :x
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: Flench on December 28, 2009, 04:09:05 PM
Just put the pedal to the metal and let her rip !!!  :joystick: :airplane: :joystick: :airplane: :joystick: :airplane: :joystick: :airplane:  :D
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: icejaff on December 28, 2009, 04:21:56 PM
ok thanks guys for all the help do you think you can help me with something else now
ok after auto takeoff cancels and im up in air i turn around and as soon as i do that a weird sound happends and i end up about 20 feet just off ground
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: Jayhawk on December 28, 2009, 04:23:57 PM
Probably the stall horn, you don't have a lot of speed built up yet.  Just do practice offline.  

Not insulting you here but read up on some basic aircraft details, they will help you. Anyone know a good website?
(http://www.rc-airplane-world.com/image-files/aerodynamic-forces.gif) (http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/FJ/F-airplane-controls.gif)
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: ImADot on December 28, 2009, 04:24:56 PM
The weird sound is the stall buzzer.  You are probably turning too hard with too little speed.  Try pulling less, and perhaps keep your nose at or slightly below the horizon to keep your speed so you don't stall.
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: icejaff on December 28, 2009, 04:47:42 PM
ok i have finaly sucesfully landed and i can fly thank you for all the tips you have all helpes me on my way
to becoming a greater and better pilot.

and if you dont mind me asking one more thing i have realised with the bombs theye land about 5 seconds after were u had dropped it
so i click b when it is in middle of the bomb sight and it misses how do i know were to drop
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: 2ADoc on December 28, 2009, 04:48:32 PM
I agree with Morfiend But if you still want to try taking off manually try pulling back on the stick to help maintain a straighter line it always helps me . that is if you are using a stick  :x
 THe problem with this method is that yes it locks the tail wheel, but you are taking off at a stall.  The airplane is not actually flying, it is more like wallering thru the air.  The airplane needs to accelerate above its stall speed before it leaves the ground.

ok thanks guys for all the help do you think you can help me with something else now
ok after auto takeoff cancels and im up in air i turn around and as soon as i do that a weird sound happends and i end up about 20 feet just off ground

That is most likely the stall horn but it could also be the Gear getting ready to come off, make sure that you have raised the gear after take off.
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: 2ADoc on December 28, 2009, 04:52:01 PM
That all depends on the plane that you are flyin.  On the F4U, and the F6f the release point is at the top of the box that holds the gunsight, and the recticle, or just off the nose.  But again that is all relative to the plane you are flying and the type of approach you use, and your release altitude.
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: TequilaChaser on December 28, 2009, 04:55:09 PM
Anyone know a good website?


as posted above in an earlier reply......check out the Aces high Trainers Website
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/

it covers basics and more......

Good Luck practicing your take offs and landings......
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: TequilaChaser on December 28, 2009, 05:02:57 PM
ok thanks guys for all the help do you think you can help me with something else now
ok after auto takeoff cancels and im up in air i turn around and as soon as i do that a weird sound happends and i end up about 20 feet just off ground

if you are using auto-takeoff...as long as you wait til the plane is airborne you do not have to worry about your gear ripping off from high speeds.......

the stall horn / buzzer you are hearing is because you are at to high of AoA, and starting to lose lift on the wings... as the sound grows louder, you will also experience buffeting ( notice this by aircraft shaking on the screen )....this can happen regardless of how slow you are or how fast you are...it all deals with how much AoA you have induced ( AoA = Angle of Attack )

this is on the Trainers website as well.... I suggest you check out and read every section on the lefthand menu of the Trainers site.......

then if ya have any more ?'s please feel free to come back here and post them as they come to ya......and drop in the Training arena as well......

hope this helps.... Good Luck
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: Jayhawk on December 28, 2009, 05:04:36 PM
and if you dont mind me asking one more thing i have realised with the bombs theye land about 5 seconds after were u had dropped it
so i click b when it is in middle of the bomb sight and it misses how do i know were to drop

We can only cite the trainer's website so many times. http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/ (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/) check Level Bombing.  I assume you are still talking bombers.  If this is dive bombing there is more to it, but it should still be covered in the trainer section.
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: Tarstar on December 28, 2009, 07:02:07 PM
It may also help for you to find someone to fly with that's willing to talk you through some of the basics... there are many that will be more than happy to do so..

The biggest mistake many of us make in the beginning, is to over control the aircraft... Try using very small movements.. If you don't have a stick... I'd get one..

Good luck...   :joystick:
Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: TequilaChaser on December 28, 2009, 07:41:52 PM
and if you dont mind me asking one more thing i have realised with the bombs theye land about 5 seconds after were u had dropped it
so i click b when it is in middle of the bomb sight and it misses how do i know were to drop

icejaff, you can go to the Training arena or go offline and use the Lead Computing site ( the GREEN X to practice where you bombs will land, whether your in a Fighter/Attack plane or in a Bomber......... this will give you visual que's on where the bombs will hit when using level or different dive bombing angles......

hope this helps




Title: Re: need help on takeoff
Post by: Soulyss on December 29, 2009, 12:16:20 PM
and if you dont mind me asking one more thing i have realised with the bombs theye land about 5 seconds after were u had dropped it
so i click b when it is in middle of the bomb sight and it misses how do i know were to drop

Trainers website has a .pdf file  that you can download that outlines the basics of level bombing and how to hit what you're aiming.
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/levelbombing/levelbombing.pdf (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/levelbombing/levelbombing.pdf)

Or you can view the article on the trainers website that was posted earlier in this thread. Chances are the reason why the bombs aren't landing where the site is pointed is that the site is not calibrated to your altitude and speed.  That article will explain how to do that.