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Title: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Ghostbuster on December 29, 2009, 03:51:09 AM
Yesterday I flew a P47N loaded with 2 X 1000pounders and 1 X 500pounder over to a CV
I had the most perfect hit ever on it, my text overflowed with it, I could not read it all.
I had lit up 12 Soft guns - 4 hard guns - 1 Armored gun - ...

But the fact was:
I released all my bombs and on my pass I got hit by ack and blew up.
All the bombs hit after I died.
So I go back to the hanger to check points and to be amazed: 0.00 points

It would be grate to be rewarded.
Although I see a problem with bombers if they bail before the hits...
Or points could be cut in 25% for bailing and 50% for getting shor or something...


Jus a thought...
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: jdbecks on December 29, 2009, 06:03:42 AM
No I would not like to see it because it will encourage sucide and kamikazi runs
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Ghosth on December 29, 2009, 06:38:44 AM
Drop a little earlier, work on Surviving, and the points will roll in.  :)
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: thndregg on December 29, 2009, 07:45:13 AM
I prefer to keep the "survivability" aspect in the game as well. If you get shredded and killed by fleet ack, credit should not be given for what you destroyed. Adjust your tactics next time. Don't look to the HTC "government" for a fix.
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Ghostbuster on December 29, 2009, 07:48:02 AM
I prefer to keep the "survivability" aspect in the game as well. If you get shredded and killed by fleet ack, credit should not be given for what you destroyed. Adjust your tactics next time. Don't look to the HTC "government" for a fix.

You still get points for killing planes and stuctures after you die, you don't survive that either...
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: batch on December 29, 2009, 07:53:37 AM
You still get points for killing planes and stuctures after you die, you don't survive that either...

Not if you die before the other person or structure
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Tilt on December 29, 2009, 12:28:47 PM
I think its there to discourage folk from suicide bombing.  All in all a worthy motivational tool to staying alive IMO.
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: AKP on December 29, 2009, 02:42:35 PM
You dont get awarded a kill in a fighter or GV if your opponent dies after you do... shouldn't be any different for damage points in bombers either.

What I am curious about is, how did the text buffer show that you damaged anything if you were already dead before the bombs hit?  Or... were you just shot down and in a chute?
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: E25280 on December 29, 2009, 04:35:42 PM
You dont get awarded a kill in a fighter or GV if your opponent dies after you do... shouldn't be any different for damage points in bombers either.

What I am curious about is, how did the text buffer show that you damaged anything if you were already dead before the bombs hit?  Or... were you just shot down and in a chute?
FWIW as long as you are still in the tower you see the results of your drop.
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Saxman on December 29, 2009, 04:56:09 PM
I prefer to keep the "survivability" aspect in the game as well. If you get shredded and killed by fleet ack, credit should not be given for what you destroyed. Adjust your tactics next time. Don't look to the HTC "government" for a fix.

Although just to play Devil's Advocate, if you're trying to dive-bomb a CV with a lone P-47 you're pretty screwed no matter WHAT you do. You need a dozen wingmen with you to soak up the laser-guided manned guns (with prox shells!) and insanely accurate auto-ack to MAYBE have a chance to fly home again.
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: jdbecks on December 29, 2009, 05:58:27 PM
Although just to play Devil's Advocate, if you're trying to dive-bomb a CV with a lone P-47 you're pretty screwed no matter WHAT you do. You need a dozen wingmen with you to soak up the laser-guided manned guns (with prox shells!) and insanely accurate auto-ack to MAYBE have a chance to fly home again.

although you do deserve to die if you try to attack a cv group with a lone P47
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Oleg on December 30, 2009, 02:25:24 AM
Auto acks not a problem usually, but manned 5'' are. Sinking cruiser by lone fighter-bomber and survive isnt hard at all, though I dont see much points in one-time hitting carrier with 2x1000lb.
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: viking73 on December 30, 2009, 04:09:34 AM
No I would not like to see it because it will encourage sucide and kamikazi runs

 :lol Ya nobody does suicide runs on CVs now.  :rolleyes:

Seriously tho, I've seen a lot of zero points related to fleet activity even if you survive or from ship to ship action. Doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Ghostbuster on December 30, 2009, 05:36:12 AM
although you do deserve to die if you try to attack a cv group with a lone P47

I had 3 other P47's with me...

Only 1 made it out...
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: AKP on December 30, 2009, 07:23:23 PM
FWIW as long as you are still in the tower you see the results of your drop.

Ahh... good info. If I am getting downed during a drop I usually live long enough to see them hit... so I wasnt aware of that.  :aok
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Meatwad on January 04, 2010, 07:13:28 AM
No.
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: RTHolmes on January 04, 2010, 08:47:47 AM
if you're trying to dive-bomb a CV with a lone P-47 you're pretty screwed no matter WHAT you do.

naah, I have a technique which is survivable 9/10 times, dont take a single ping 7/10 times. unless theres a really good 5" gunner on board ... in which case, yup you're screwed :uhoh
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: waystin2 on January 04, 2010, 08:57:19 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: MORAY37 on January 04, 2010, 12:52:02 PM
Dead men don't get rewarded.

Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Ghostbuster on January 05, 2010, 05:11:22 AM
Thats why some recieve a Medal of Honor...
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: LLogann on January 07, 2010, 12:06:32 PM
This is a Perks only issue.  Your score was still credited with damage.  Or at least it used to be.


Yesterday I flew a P47N loaded with 2 X 1000pounders and 1 X 500pounder over to a CV
I had the most perfect hit ever on it, my text overflowed with it, I could not read it all.
I had lit up 12 Soft guns - 4 hard guns - 1 Armored gun - ...

But the fact was:
I released all my bombs and on my pass I got hit by ack and blew up.
All the bombs hit after I died.
So I go back to the hanger to check points and to be amazed: 0.00 points

It would be grate to be rewarded.
Although I see a problem with bombers if they bail before the hits...
Or points could be cut in 25% for bailing and 50% for getting shor or something...


Jus a thought...
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Lusche on January 07, 2010, 12:16:49 PM
This is a Perks only issue.  Your score was still credited with damage. 

If your're dead before they hit, no perks, no points, no score. (Your damage hit% will actually decrease)

And that's how it should be. Too much suicide stuff going on already.
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: LLogann on January 07, 2010, 01:36:13 PM
I have to disagree. 

If the scrolling text box records damage, so does the ranking system.

ie. "soft gun destroyed"  and so on.  It tells you this information because you are credited with it's destruction.

Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Lusche on January 07, 2010, 01:54:54 PM
I have to disagree.  

If the scrolling text box records damage, so does the ranking system.

ie. "soft gun destroyed"  and so on.  It tells you this information because you are credited with it's destruction.



You don't get any perks, points & death for damage that happens after your death, even though the information text will be displayed when you are in tower.
Easy to test it yourself: Drop bombs from alt on a target, bail and exit sortie immediately, while your bombs are still falling. You will get the messages, but no perks or any points for score.
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: LLogann on January 07, 2010, 02:23:35 PM
That test doesn't work anymore.  Bailing before bombs hit target make them disappear with you.  (New Patch)

Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Motherland on January 07, 2010, 02:26:36 PM
That test doesn't work anymore.  Bailing before bombs hit target make them disappear with you.  (New Patch)


Nope... only when you start a new sortie. You can sit in the tower.
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Lusche on January 07, 2010, 02:30:37 PM
That test doesn't work anymore.  Bailing before bombs hit target make them disappear with you.  (New Patch)



I did test it after the patch to check if all things work as advertised :)
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: LLogann on January 07, 2010, 02:34:14 PM
Darn you............   :)

I'll go check it out when I rtb.

Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Ruler2 on January 07, 2010, 03:11:49 PM
Ghostbuster, if I'm not mistaken you DO still get the damage points for those bombs, just not perks, but I need someone to second me on that point.


That test doesn't work anymore.  Bailing before bombs hit target make them disappear with you.  (New Patch)



No, if you RE-UP the bombs reset, but if you get shot down and sit in the tower you're cool.
Title: Re: Points for hitting with bombs after dieing
Post by: Lusche on January 07, 2010, 03:15:12 PM
Ghostbuster, if I'm not mistaken you DO still get the damage points for those bombs

You don't. See my postings above.