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Title: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Motherland on December 31, 2009, 12:48:20 PM
I was initially very disappointed at the announcement of the Great War arena... great now only more dev time taken away from WWII, what I'm here for...
However more and more I'm getting very excited for some biplane action... the likes of Hartmann, Nowotny, and Marseilles, replaced Boelcke, Udet, Ricthofen... Messerschmitt, Supermarine and Boeing replaced by Sopwith, SPAD, and Fokker... the Axis and the Allies replaced by the Central Powers and the Triple Entente..

And, a flag that doesn't need to be censored!!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Flag_of_the_German_Empire.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_German_Empire.svg.png)


Very, very excited :D
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Kazaa on December 31, 2009, 12:55:40 PM
+1.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Motherland on December 31, 2009, 01:01:23 PM
I also just want to see HTC's D.VII! Very good looking aircraft. That lozenge pattern's going to be a pain to skin, though.
(http://www.earlyaeroplanes.com/archive/image1/Sanke1073fokker.jpg)
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Sunka on December 31, 2009, 01:46:44 PM
Well i hope to see more post's like yours.I for one have been exited from the start,and the more people that find intrest in WW1 arena the more work and time HTC will put in to it.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Blooz on December 31, 2009, 02:16:12 PM
I'm not that excited. It's just going to be like the DA with WW1 planes and besides I prefer the

(http://www.nkrmodels.com.au/rod-608.jpg)

Once it evolves I may change my mind but I can wait.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Sonicblu on December 31, 2009, 03:21:17 PM
WOOT can't wait.  :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: horble on December 31, 2009, 05:57:18 PM
WW1 was my first exposure to online Air Combat (DoA.)

I'm very excited for it :)
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: bustr on December 31, 2009, 07:01:33 PM
The WWI arena will be an excellent opportunity to become better aquainted with the low powered stick and rudder skills set.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: texastc316 on December 31, 2009, 07:29:02 PM
Im excited about it, Ill be there. Probably spend more time in WW2 after a bit, but as the GWA evolves more I bet I go there more and more. I have flown but one WW1 sim (red baron) but the biplanes have always intrigued me.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Phil on January 01, 2010, 07:20:25 AM
With the WWI planes, I think the pilot skills are gonna surface more !
Lucky ones that run away when in "bad" situation, won't be able too anymore.

No more "cannon/explosive" rounds. Hold steady and pull the trigger !

Gonna be very interesting  :aok

Phil / OPP7755
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: JunkyII on January 01, 2010, 07:43:19 AM
With the WWI planes, I think the pilot skills are gonna surface more !
Lucky ones that run away when in "bad" situation, won't be able too anymore.

No more "cannon/explosive" rounds. Hold steady and pull the trigger !

Gonna be very interesting  :aok

Phil / OPP7755
I think your right :aok :salute
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Strip on January 01, 2010, 07:50:36 AM
I think it will look a lot like D3A fights, fun to be sure but not game changing.

Strip
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: JimmyC on January 01, 2010, 08:54:21 AM
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/AirmanWW1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: toonces3 on January 01, 2010, 11:39:14 AM
You know, I'm also very excited about the prospect of a WW1 arena.

At first I was thinking that it would be just like the current MA, but with a slower planeset.  However, I've been flying an offline WW1 game quite a bit lately and I have to say that the experience is considerably different than a typical MA joust in a 300+ mph fighter.

I'm finding it very, very hard to saddle up on a bogey for an extended period, and then getting enough rounds into him to bring him down.  Also, the slow speeds these planes are capable of lead to a lot more floating around in very close quarters.  It's kind of like dogfighting in a Zero, but alot slower and closer and the maneuvers are more exaggerated.

Overall I think it will be sufficiently different to attract quite a bit of the playerbase.  Furthermore, since we're starting with a whole new planeset, it really levels the playing field among us, allowing for everyone to face the same learning curve together.

 :rock
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: USRanger on January 01, 2010, 11:42:02 AM
I think pilot wounds will be a major factor.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: dedalos on January 01, 2010, 12:12:02 PM
I think the EW arena will be closed
The MW will have the population of the EW
The AvA, well . . . .
And the WWI arena will be a bunch of planes running in circles
 :O
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Phil on January 01, 2010, 12:56:47 PM

And the WWI arena will be a bunch of planes running in circles
 :O

Ahh that's a good comment !  :lol

Ya think that if we end up flying side by side, I can use my revolver for a head shot ? (Fly boys)  :confused:

Anxious Phil / OPP7755
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Enker on January 01, 2010, 01:57:14 PM
With the WWI planes, I think the pilot skills are gonna surface more !
Lucky ones that run away when in "bad" situation, won't be able too anymore.

No more "cannon/explosive" rounds. Hold steady and pull the trigger! Lots of aiming for the cockpit.

Gonna be very interesting  :aok

Phil / OPP7755
I dunno, I think they will still be able to run away, just a lot more slowly. Unless you are in a SE5 with altitude. 180mph dives anyone?
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Shuffler on January 01, 2010, 02:00:53 PM
I'm not that excited. It's just going to be like the DA with WW1 planes and besides I prefer the

(http://www.nkrmodels.com.au/rod-608.jpg)

Once it evolves I may change my mind but I can wait.

It wont start like the DA. The DA at one time was a good arena.... it has devolved into the pathetic pit it is now.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: gatt on January 02, 2010, 01:53:20 AM
I think the EW arena will be closed
The MW will have the population of the EW
The AvA, well . . . .
And the WWI arena will be a bunch of planes running in circles
 :O

+1

Anyway, flying the Spad XIII or the SE5a, or the late D.VII, the way they were meant to, you'll still be an alt monkey for the Camel-Dr.I crowd  :rofl
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Larry on January 02, 2010, 02:00:21 AM
I give it about a month then I think numbers will be like the EW and AvA are now.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Harp00n on January 02, 2010, 04:14:45 AM
And groundwar will be totally awesome. Just think of this:

(http://www.lancers.org.au/images/lhf/krauttank.jpg)

Running around with a bailed out pilot is probably as exciting as driving this thing.  :devil
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: CptTrips on January 02, 2010, 11:53:02 AM
I give it about a month then I think numbers will be like the EW and AvA are now.


Sight unseen, I'm willing to bet a dollar that you are wrong.  I agree there will be an initial honeymoon period that will fall off.  However, I bet it will remain significantly more popular than either EW or AvA (perhaps better than both combined). 

It will never be as popular as the WWII MA.  HTC knows that.  They're smart enough to know they gotta dance with the one that brung'em.  But that doesn't mean the WWI crowd can't cut in every once in a while.  ;)

Regards,
Wab
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Nypsy on January 02, 2010, 02:33:16 PM
The only WW1 sim I ever flew was Red Baron about 9 years ago.
I was flying over a French village at dusk and from below I hear a church bell ringing, then sirens as they notice I am German. The atmosphere of that game grabbed me.

Now I know atmosphere in AH2 is last on the list of priorities, it was a nice touch in a WW1 sim though.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Sunka on January 02, 2010, 04:08:03 PM
:D Larry has made it well known he is not into WW1


Sight unseen, I'm willing to bet a dollar that you are wrong.  I agree there will be an initial honeymoon period that will fall off.  However, I bet it will remain significantly more popular than either EW or AvA (perhaps better than both combined). 

It will never be as popular as the WWII MA.  HTC knows that.  They're smart enough to know they gotta dance with the one that brung'em.  But that doesn't mean the WWI crowd can't cut in every once in a while.  ;)

Regards,
Wab
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Motherland on January 02, 2010, 04:13:22 PM
I give it about a month then I think numbers will be like the EW and AvA are now.
The obvious thing would be that WWI planes would not be available in WWII LW.
Thus, unlike EW MW and the AvA, where you get a limited choices, even though any plane you want to fly is available in the LW arenas, the WWI planes being only available only in the WWI arena, not WWII LW.

Ex. if I want to fly a Bf 109E-4, I can either go to the EW, where there's no one there (and the people that are are generally tards), or I can just fly it in LW, where I get more of a challenge, and there's no shortage of airplanes. If I want to fly a D. VII, I HAVE to go to the WWI arena, because there's no other place to fly it.

I don't think that WWI will ever be as popular as WWII, but I imagine the arena will remain at least as popular as MW or the DA, and not be constantly empty like the AvA and EW.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Shifty on January 02, 2010, 04:33:17 PM
+1

Anyway, flying the Spad XIII or the SE5a, or the late D.VII, the way they were meant to, you'll still be an alt monkey for the Camel-Dr.I crowd  :rofl


Go ahead and dive on the Dr.Is

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/Johnvan52/DRI.jpg?t=1262471844)

You'll find them.

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/Johnvan52/Willi.jpg?t=1262471888)

Hard to get.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: james on January 02, 2010, 07:14:14 PM
Ah blue max. One of the best movies alongside all quiet on the western front
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: wgmount on January 02, 2010, 07:18:12 PM
I am ready to fly the Sopwith Camel. Hey, it is now the early part of the year. :joystick:
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: toonces3 on January 02, 2010, 08:28:54 PM
I don't know if you guys are all stuck in Aces High online mode all the time or what.  I know that I fly a very diverse set of flight sims, depending on what mood I am in.  I spent the better part of yesterday piloting an F-8 and A-4 all over North Vietnam.  But anyway...

There are two very popular offline (non-AH2) WW1 flight sims going around right now.  I'm sure you guys can figure out what they are and where to get them.  One in particular I have been flying a lot lately since I got it for Xmas.  I've only flown it offline (the one that needs CFS3 to run).  I will tell you that it is a very different experience than WW2 dogfighting (or Vietnam-era dogfighting for that matter).

This game, AH2, is obviously WW2 oriented and that is where the playerbase is.  I agree that the WW1 arena will certainly have a spike initially- who doesn't want to see what's new?  But will it have longevity?  How would I know?  But I don't think it will be the flash in the pan that some think it will be.  It just isn't the same kind of fight.  This will appeal to some and not to others.  Frankly, I look forward to jumping into a plane that someone like Dedalos, for example, has as many hours in as me.  It levels the playing field some.  I'm never going to beat Steve in a Pony; I might have a chance beating him in a Fokker that he's never flown before, negating his familiarity with the plane handling aspect.  This might attract some of us mid-water feeders that are good but not great, that are familiar with the planeset in the MAs but not intimate with any plane, and just don't have the years of experience or the hours of free time to get there anymore. 

I'm sure someone will figure out how to game the system and tard out in the new arena, but I also think that it (may) attract a playerbase that stays there more than other arenas.  You can't fly the WW1 planeset in the MA's, so that will set it apart, unlike EW/MW/AvA where you can fly all of those planes in LW.  Some folks might find the WW1 arena somewhere where they can compete to be top dog, rather than fading into the masses of LW.

I'm willing to give it a try.  The fights feel different in the sims I've flown.  It's fun and different and it's really where the fundamentals of dogfighting were forged.  How can that not be cool to try in the crucible of online dogfighting Aces High?
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Larry on January 02, 2010, 08:44:57 PM
:D Larry has made it well known he is not into WW1



Wow and all this time I thought I was. Thanks for setting me straight.



Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: wgmount on January 03, 2010, 01:23:21 AM
Can we at least get tossed a bone and make a couple WW1 era planes available in the TA? Kinda like the rv8 is available? Just asking
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Yeager on January 03, 2010, 01:33:58 AM
four new rides and still they complain lol
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: BaldEagl on January 03, 2010, 01:58:01 AM
I'm excited.  It might actually get me playing more again.

I really hope they flush it out a bit though with some bombers and GV's.  Four fighters and three bases is just going to be another furball lake with different planes.

BTW, here's a pretty cool WWI site:  http://www.wwiaviation.com/toc.shtml
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Stampf on January 03, 2010, 02:39:35 PM
I am looking forward to it.  Those guys were the original flyboys.  :airplane:

Don't think it will ever replace or even equal my passion for, and interest in World War II aviation and history, but it should be fun.

and...

...choices are nice.  Hats off to HTC.



Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Shifty on January 03, 2010, 02:52:39 PM
I'm not that excited. It's just going to be like the DA with WW1 planes and besides I prefer the

(http://www.nkrmodels.com.au/rod-608.jpg)

Once it evolves I may change my mind but I can wait.
The Albatross is my favorite WWI bird as well.

(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/airplanepictures_2085_51969675)

I hope it gets added one day.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Enker on January 03, 2010, 03:04:28 PM
The Albatros is my favorite WWI bird as well.

I hope it gets added one day.
Agreed, then we can pretend to be both Manfred and Lothar. Albatros power!
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Treize69 on January 03, 2010, 03:40:56 PM
<-- is still hoping to be able to kill giant wood and canvas bombers one day...  :pray

but he'll be happy with wood and canvas furballs in the meantime.  :rock
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: texastc316 on January 03, 2010, 10:54:36 PM
albatross FTW!!!
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Treize69 on January 05, 2010, 11:57:44 AM
Nieport 17 WANT!

(http://www.theaerodrome.com/gallery/files/1/1/1/111n17ghst1-med.jpg)
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: tassos on January 05, 2010, 12:24:48 PM
We need for WW I Arena New Names Like VonTassos ore SirKazaa.....MissSkuzzy;)
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: ares473 on January 05, 2010, 12:50:19 PM
After reading up on this thread, my 2 cents is that I think the WWI arena will be heavily populated by the pilots who love true dogfights, pilot skill vs pilot skill, plane vs plane. Basically a place to go and get away from all of the pilots who are concerned only about stats. I feel it may also have a tendancy to weed out those afore mentioned pilots for those who love a good fight, because after flying a high performance WWII fighter for so long going to a machine with top speeds less than 200 mph and no radar will seem uninteresting since their stats will suffer until they get used to the new planes in which case they will just leave it alone and stay in WWII. Just my thoughts, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: texastc316 on January 05, 2010, 01:01:52 PM
Um, no radar? Screw that!
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Wmaker on January 05, 2010, 01:24:25 PM
Btw, did anyone else notice that this guy isn't looking forward...

http://www.hitechcreations.com/news/images/camel/cam4.jpg (http://www.hitechcreations.com/news/images/camel/cam4.jpg)

:noid

...could that mean that some of those character-animation features are sneaking into the game?
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Shuffler on January 05, 2010, 03:41:39 PM
He's looking forward... he's just a shortr squeaker.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: allaire on January 05, 2010, 04:01:11 PM
Yep you can tell he is on when you here the meep meep meep. :rofl
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Wmaker on January 05, 2010, 06:44:05 PM
I don't think he's much shorter or taller than the pilots in the latest WWII planes. :)

His upper torso is just behind the hump over the MGs that gave Camel its name...and unless I'm going blind he's looking slightly to the right.

...But I'm sure you guys were just kidding aswell. :)
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Motherland on January 05, 2010, 06:46:36 PM
Btw, did anyone else notice that this guy isn't looking forward...

http://www.hitechcreations.com/news/images/camel/cam4.jpg (http://www.hitechcreations.com/news/images/camel/cam4.jpg)

:noid

...could that mean that some of those character-animation features are sneaking into the game?
That's a very interesting observation, especially considering it looks like his head is facing forward in the second picture....
:noid
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: wgmount on January 05, 2010, 06:49:37 PM
Btw, did anyone else notice that this guy isn't looking forward...

http://www.hitechcreations.com/news/images/camel/cam4.jpg (http://www.hitechcreations.com/news/images/camel/cam4.jpg)

:noid

...could that mean that some of those character-animation features are sneaking into the game?

I can't tell. Looks like he is wearing a derby Hat though. HT trying to put abbott from abbott & costello in the WW1 planes?
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Enker on January 05, 2010, 07:47:45 PM
That's a very interesting observation, especially considering it looks like his head is facing forward in the second picture....
:noid
I think it is a new pilot model, because in the first Dr.1 picture, the pilot also looks like he is looking slightly to the right due to being able to see more of his face. Same sort of deal with the second Dr.1 picture, although you see less of his face.
Title: Re: Ahhh the anticipation...
Post by: Bear76 on January 05, 2010, 07:57:45 PM

Wow and all this time I thought I was. Thanks for setting me straight.




Straight? Not what I heard :D :bolt: