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Title: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Serenity on December 31, 2009, 07:18:40 PM
I just got Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit for my laptop to replace Vista 64 bit. To me, it seems like a step back. It's even slower than ever! My CPU used to run at 3%-4% on idle, now it's running 45%-60%! Is there a guide to streamline it back down to at LEAST Vista level?
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Motherland on December 31, 2009, 07:25:30 PM
Sounds like you screwed something up... when I installed the RC on my machine it ran smoother than my XP partition initially (which wasn't very old itself).
Granted it was 32 bit.
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Serenity on December 31, 2009, 07:33:50 PM
Sounds like you screwed something up... when I installed the RC on my machine it ran smoother than my XP partition initially (which wasn't very old itself).
Granted it was 32 bit.

Just chose the upgrade from vista option rather than the start-the-computer-from-scratch-and-loose-everything option...
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: cattb on December 31, 2009, 09:36:13 PM
clean install is always best IMO, then mirror your image for a back up for the just in case. I am running windblows 7 32 bit and XP. I am running dual boot but 7 runs fine and smooth for what I have used so faar
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: hyster on January 02, 2010, 04:52:34 AM
i got the following quote of the windows7 forum http://www.sevenforums.com/ (http://www.sevenforums.com/) . dont no if its true though.

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You want system idle process to be high. That means the processor is looking for work. 99 is better than 60.

i ran the beta ver of win7 64 bit for about 6 months then decided to go back to xp pro.
i lasted 2 weeks b4 i got fed up with xp and went back to win7 beta.
im now using win7 pro x64 and i would not go back to xp.

i find win7 a lot more stable and seems to run games better.

download gamesbooster http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html?Str=download (http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html?Str=download). it closes down some services and open programs.
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Spikes on January 02, 2010, 12:05:04 PM
Ya...clean install it for sure. My comps all run at 0-1% idle, I've got a C2D 2.2ghz and a C2Q 2.8 ghz, Athlon II 2.9 ghz.
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Serenity on January 02, 2010, 03:24:39 PM
Ya...clean install it for sure. My comps all run at 0-1% idle, I've got a C2D 2.2ghz and a C2Q 2.8 ghz, Athlon II 2.9 ghz.

After all sorts of things just STOPPED working (The mute light on my keyboard no longer functions even now...) I went to a clean install, and in addition to cleaning out my hard-drive (250GB of junk I didn't need, lol) the CPU speed is now idleing at 10%-30%, which is still much higher than the old.

I run an AMD Turion X2 64 Ultra (2.3GHz)
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: guncrasher on January 02, 2010, 11:33:24 PM
something is wrong mine idles at 0 to 1 % and that is with firefox open. and my old xp was the same way and it had mccaffey on.  post a dxdiag maybe somebody here can help you

semp
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Serenity on January 02, 2010, 11:36:40 PM
How do I post the dxdiag? Whenever I try it says it's too long to post...
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Masherbrum on January 03, 2010, 01:34:37 AM
How do I post the dxdiag? Whenever I try it says it's too long to post...

Only post the first 2 or 3 paragraphs worth Serenity.  The rest of the report is "bloat".   
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Serenity on January 03, 2010, 02:51:18 AM
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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/2/2010, 22:49:02
       Machine name: DV6
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
       System Model: HP Pavilion dv6 Notebook PC
               BIOS: Default System BIOS
          Processor: AMD Turion(tm) X2 Ultra Dual-Core Mobile ZM-85 (2 CPUs), ~2.3GHz
             Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4094MB RAM
          Page File: 1626MB used, 6559MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Chalenge on January 03, 2010, 02:59:48 AM
You got WAY too much junk installed on that thing and its sucking up resources in all the processes running.
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Skuzzy on January 03, 2010, 07:27:16 AM
If you tried to update Vista and not do a full reformat and installation of Windows 7, your computer will be a mess and it will stay a mess.
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Masherbrum on January 03, 2010, 10:12:21 AM
You got WAY too much junk installed on that thing and its sucking up resources in all the processes running.

Wrong

If you tried to update Vista and not do a full reformat and installation of Windows 7, your computer will be a mess and it will stay a mess.

Correct
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Serenity on January 04, 2010, 03:51:39 AM
If you tried to update Vista and not do a full reformat and installation of Windows 7, your computer will be a mess and it will stay a mess.

Already whiped it clean and did a fresh install. Still have the same issue. In addition, I have a dv6, which has one of those light-up touch-pads to control wifi and volume. When you mute the volume the light is supposed to go orange. Now it is stuck at white.
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Skuzzy on January 04, 2010, 06:25:15 AM
That would be a driver issue.
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Serenity on January 04, 2010, 04:52:59 PM
That would be a driver issue.

Any idea what it would be called or how to fix it?
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Skuzzy on January 04, 2010, 04:59:28 PM
Not sure.  I do not have enough experience with the Windows 7 drivers yet and absolutely do not have any experience with a touch pad.  Does the manufacturer for the touch pad have later drivers available?

Every laptop I have seen switched to Windows 7 ran much better.  Is this an older laptop?  1.6G of page file space being used seems high to me as well.
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Serenity on January 04, 2010, 05:43:06 PM
Not sure.  I do not have enough experience with the Windows 7 drivers yet and absolutely do not have any experience with a touch pad.  Does the manufacturer for the touch pad have later drivers available?

Every laptop I have seen switched to Windows 7 ran much better.  Is this an older laptop?  1.6G of page file space being used seems high to me as well.

I do not know which drivers are running that mute light to know if there are newer drivers. The wifi light on the same pad alternates between orange and blue whether turned on or off, and that light works just fine. It's only the mute light that isn't working.

Its definitely not old, I bought it brand new in August, and to my knowledge it was still a rather new product.
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: aaronr on January 04, 2010, 11:57:49 PM
You got WAY too much junk installed on that thing and its sucking up resources in all the processes running.

I would be very interested how you come to that conclusion with the info posted. If I knew how you can tell that, it may help me with the problem I am having running the game. If you would be so kind?
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Heater on January 05, 2010, 03:02:59 AM
Serenity,

Go to the sysinternals site (this now a Microsoft site) i.e. www.sysinternals.com
download the sysinternals suite and run the processexplorer application, it will give you full details of each process that is running down to the thread level...
this can help pinpoint the problem.
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Serenity on January 05, 2010, 04:18:39 AM
Serenity,

Go to the sysinternals site (this now a Microsoft site) i.e. www.sysinternals.com
download the sysinternals suite and run the processexplorer application, it will give you full details of each process that is running down to the thread level...
this can help pinpoint the problem.

Cannot find the download section of that link.

In addition, the scroll section of my touch-pad is nonfunctional.
Title: Re: Windows 7: A step backward?
Post by: Heater on January 05, 2010, 04:31:35 AM
on the page that opens, look in the left hand column at the top, you will see:
Sysinternals Suite:
just click on it and it will take you to the download,  it will download the complete tool set :)