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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: bj229r on January 01, 2010, 10:30:36 AM
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HOW do you manage to press those teeny little squares on the touchscreens and not mash all the adjacent ones as well? Wife has far smaller hands than I (it's her new toy, reviews are positive thus far)....and I keep hearing a steady stream of profanities as she tries to type url's....it doesn't seem to respond to pencil erasers, etc.....They make a small bluetooth keyboard, but that would seem to contradict why one actually buys the thing to begin with (http://chat.anncoulter.com/phpBB3//images/smilies/083.gif)
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I personally don't care for touch screens, I have that env touch...has the touch screen front and a QWERTY kb as well. Touch screen gets annoying, randomly calls people and plays music if it's in my pocket.
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Practice. At first its hard, and for someone who's never really used one before I'd never expect them to type more than a word a minute.
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I personally don't care for touch screens, I have that env touch...has the touch screen front and a QWERTY kb as well. Touch screen gets annoying, randomly calls people and plays music if it's in my pocket.
Bought my kid one of those...she loves it...I watched in wonder as she managed to hit the correct letter every time
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When i need to cheat in class or check my Youtube Ill get one. I only see these systems getting stronger so I have to give in !
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I personally don't care for touch screens, I have that env touch...has the touch screen front and a QWERTY kb as well. Touch screen gets annoying, randomly calls people and plays music if it's in my pocket.
My voyager does the same. That's why I bought a Body Glove for it and it stays on my belt :)
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My voyager does the same. That's why I bought a Body Glove for it and it stays on my belt :)
only boys with beepers in my class were Vol Fire fighters! wow im dating myself.
i wouldn't let cells in my class. ahhcuu looks down gets answer to question 2. :rolleyes:
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Its funny I had a complete disdain to smart phones , but now can't get off the son - of - buck . when you start its a complete learning process . I got Blackberry Tour and would not be happy without it . Which is why its called The Crackberry . I can read my program files send company emails and work like a man under the influance . I had a hard time with my small keyboard but now whip thru there like an old pro . It just takes time .
Nutte :salute
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HOW do you manage to press those teeny little squares on the touchscreens and not mash all the adjacent ones as well? Wife has far smaller hands than I (it's her new toy, reviews are positive thus far)....and I keep hearing a steady stream of profanities as she tries to type url's....it doesn't seem to respond to pencil erasers, etc.....They make a small bluetooth keyboard, but that would seem to contradict why one actually buys the thing to begin with (http://chat.anncoulter.com/phpBB3//images/smilies/083.gif)
Does your wife have long fingernails? They make touchscreens pretty tough.
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I have the AT&T tilt and I love it. It has a touchscreen and I have no problem with it as I lock it when I dont use it and I put it in a leather case. It has a qwerty keyboard as well as I made sure the phone I had gotten would have both a touchscreen and keyboard. Touchscreen is nice where everything is available with a touch and the keyboard makes typing quick. I can also physically write letters out using the transcribing feature with the touchscreen.
I tried the iphone out and found that I wasnt able to push the letters that close together which is a reason I wanted the keyboard. I did download a touchscreen keyboard since all programs are free for windows phone for my phone and its similar to the iphone keybaord but the letters are more spaced out so its easier to push.
I do plan on getting the AT&T tilt 2 sometime in the future because how much much I was impressed with the first one. HTC phones are the way to go.
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I got a Q, kinda stupid, but what is 3g and 4g?
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I personally don't care for touch screens, I have that env touch...has the touch screen front and a QWERTY kb as well. Touch screen gets annoying, randomly calls people and plays music if it's in my pocket.
i use the g1. i like it, and so far it;'s pretty dependable.
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3G and 4G are connection speeds. Unless you live in an area with 3G or 4G coverage you will only get a slower EDGE connection. The good news is the 3G areas are growing, but still mainly around large cities.
I have a Q 9h. It's only 3G and no wifi. Other than that I love it. I unlocked the internal GPS and can run Google Maps or any GPS program on it. I deleted the ringtone size limit so I can play full mp3's for ringtones. I also use it for a hi speed internet connection on my home pc. I only have dialup but can get a 10M connect tethering thru it. Makes downloading updates and videos much easier.
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Bought my kid one of those...she loves it...I watched in wonder as she managed to hit the correct letter every time
I manage to run out of characters (I've been curious and so while texting my friends i tried a small test.) while texting before i can count to a minute... It's so easy, the last time i used a non-touch screen QWERTY keyboard i could barely type more than a word in a minute, the dang thing wouldn't register my pressing of the digit.
I'm so used to tapping lightly i kept gliding over the letters because that's what you do on a touchscreen. I have very large hands for my age, bigger than most of my friends and as large if not bigger hands than my father. I get this from my mothers side, her father has incredibly large and strong hands.
I have no problem with my Samsung Instinct, I'm actually thinking about the contract end because I'd like to get the more compact, newer version of the Instinct. My phone is full touchscreen and i swear the first time i got it i almost broke the screen from pressing on it, it kept double, even triple registering my pressing...
We are advanced, unique and one of a kind species. With an ever so overwhelming stupidity. Anyways +1 for touchscreen tech, and you'll get accustomed to both non-touch and touch, just like your daughter.
Good luck, :aok
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I have an iphone. Took me a while to get it right. However, sometimes it is just awesome to sit on the couch, watch TV, and answer e-mails. For the calculator I downloaded a version that had larger keys for us Baby Boomers.
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Its funny I had a complete disdain to smart phones , but now can't get off the son - of - buck . when you start its a complete learning process . I got Blackberry Tour and would not be happy without it . Which is why its called The Crackberry . I can read my program files send company emails and work like a man under the influance . I had a hard time with my small keyboard but now whip thru there like an old pro . It just takes time .
Nutte :salute
Yep, swore up and down there was no way in hell I'd have one. Now my iphone is is an extension of my hand.
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How is the battery life on iPhones? Friend of mine's company switched from Blackberrys to iPhones and he says he can't go a full day without having to recharge the iPhone.
He appreciates the iPhone's features but misses his Blackberry.
Some interesting articles on line contend iPhone is saturating the capacity of some phone networks because it is so popular and uses so much network.
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How is the battery life on iPhones? Friend of mine's company switched from Blackberrys to iPhones and he says he can't go a full day without having to recharge the iPhone.
He appreciates the iPhone's features but misses his Blackberry.
Some interesting articles on line contend iPhone is saturating the capacity of some phone networks because it is so popular and uses so much network.
Main drain on an iPhone is he LED. If you limit that you get pretty good length of time between charges. I probably charge mine about every 2 to 3 days.
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woow/....m g1 sucks the battery down in a day. faster if i enable wifi, or any of its gps functions.
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Bought my kid one of those...she loves it...I watched in wonder as she managed to hit the correct letter every time
Yeah! I have a silicone cover on mine with all black over the keyboard, no white letters...sucks in the dark because the keyboard backlight does not bleed through, but I just kind of memorize the keys.
the touch screen on my ipod touch and env touch are different, one is a big button, the other is a real touch screen (ipod). I like the ipod touch screen more, don't need to press down much at all. Good batt life with mine, normally lasts me a few days.
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I never run out of juice in my tilt in 1 day, and if I want to I can upgrade my battery size but its about $100 for the next size up battery.
The tilt came with a gps that didnt need to be unlocked and free to use. :)
Another nice thing is I get HSPDA which is the fastest speed out there for internet connections for phone since my phone is able to access it.
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Thanks rpm
:salute
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I have the HTC Tilt. The 2nd reason I bought it was that it had the slideout keyboard (1st being wifi access)
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I have a Nextel clutch it is not a smart phine but the important thing to me is that I can change the Sim card out. When I go over seas I can get a local Simcard and it is alot cheaper. As oppsed to serious roaming charges, or not being able to get a local carrier I just change the simcard out.
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That's one thing LG missed with the env touch...wifi. Luckily I've got the ipod touch for that.
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I have 2 smartphones but both have dedicated querty keyboards and i LOVE them :)
I recently retired my Sony Ericsson P1i that i have used for a couple of years in favor of the Nokia E71. I can type really fast on both of them. I dont like pure touch screen phones.
I really recomend the Nokia E71 and the newer E72. The battery time on them are really excellent. I can go 3 days with heavy use of gps, wifi, calling and whatnot before running out of battery.
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My HTC Diamond is a POS. Way too short of battery life plus windoz mobile is teh suk. My next phone will definitely be a Droid. They have a VOIP ap... Imagine the implications to that...
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Yes... The touch screen is a nice novelty but not too practical. This will probably be my next phone...
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-moment-sprint/4505-6452_7-33775546.html
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My HTC Diamond is a POS. Way too short of battery life plus windoz mobile is teh suk. My next phone will definitely be a Droid. They have a VOIP ap... Imagine the implications to that...
Really? I like windows mobile. All the programs are free, I like having internet explorer and being able to see all websites without being cut down or not being able to view some sites.
You could get the upgraded battery probably as you can get anything for HTC products. Hell the tilt has their own website for products.
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Anyone have the droid? I'll be buying it in February when I get my upgrade from my 3 year old POS flip phone. I'd like to know the pros and cons of it, battery life, ect.
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Anyone have the droid? I'll be buying it in February when I get my upgrade from my 3 year old POS flip phone. I'd like to know the pros and cons of it, battery life, ect.
$30 more per month
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The iPhone - if you can handle the keyboard - is pretty hard to bet against. Its almost as good as a Blackberry for corporate messaging and iTunes stomps all over the alternatives for access to media. There are more apps than for any other phone - including VOIP mentioned by a previous poster and Safari is the best mobile browser. The downside - and its a big one - is AT&T. If you live in certain major metropolitan areas - notably New York or San Francisco - forget it. AT&T network is swamped. Recently, I had a single bar of cell phone signal and no data at all at JFK - one of the world's busiest airports. That's just ridiculous. Also, if you live outside a major metropolitan area, there is a strong possibility you won't have 3G data coverage, effectively crippling the phone. What it comes down to is that if you live in an area where AT&T can provide decent service, I'd go with the iPhone. If not, look elsewhere.
There was a rumor doing the rounds a couple of months ago that AT&T were going to lose their exclusivity on the iPhone and that Verizon were working on a CDMA version with Apple. If / when that happens, I'd switch there an then and take the hit on breaking my contract. If it doesn't happen, I'll switch back to Verizon when my contract expires and see what's available then. At the moment, that would probably mean Droid or whatever Blackberry is the latest and greatest. The other thing that's going to be happening soon is the rollout of 4G networks with theoretical data speeds up to 100Mbps. Sprint has already started introducing it in a few locations and I'd bet on Verizon to be way ahead of AT&T and T-Mobile, both of whom are effectively still rolling out 3G.
Cheers,
Wooley.
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Wooley...I heard this as well that Verizon was going to get the contract.
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The iPhone - if you can handle the keyboard - is pretty hard to bet against. Its almost as good as a Blackberry for corporate messaging and iTunes stomps all over the alternatives for access to media. There are more apps than for any other phone - including VOIP mentioned by a previous poster and Safari is the best mobile browser. The downside - and its a big one - is AT&T. If you live in certain major metropolitan areas - notably New York or San Francisco - forget it. AT&T network is swamped. Recently, I had a single bar of cell phone signal and no data at all at JFK - one of the world's busiest airports. That's just ridiculous. Also, if you live outside a major metropolitan area, there is a strong possibility you won't have 3G data coverage, effectively crippling the phone. What it comes down to is that if you live in an area where AT&T can provide decent service, I'd go with the iPhone. If not, look elsewhere.
There was a rumor doing the rounds a couple of months ago that AT&T were going to lose their exclusivity on the iPhone and that Verizon were working on a CDMA version with Apple. If / when that happens, I'd switch there an then and take the hit on breaking my contract. If it doesn't happen, I'll switch back to Verizon when my contract expires and see what's available then. At the moment, that would probably mean Droid or whatever Blackberry is the latest and greatest. The other thing that's going to be happening soon is the rollout of 4G networks with theoretical data speeds up to 100Mbps. Sprint has already started introducing it in a few locations and I'd bet on Verizon to be way ahead of AT&T and T-Mobile, both of whom are effectively still rolling out 3G.
Cheers,
Wooley.
It was recently in the news about AT&T trying to slow sales in NY because their infrastructure could not handle the load. They have been implimeenting construction on things they had for the future to relieve the burden. AT&T has the fastest network available in the US. If they can catch up at a couple of bottlenecks they should be fine.
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3% of AT&T's customers are using 40% of their available bandwidth.
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3% of AT&T's customers are using 40% of their available bandwidth.
There is the problem. The success of the iPhone has overloaded the systems designed for phone calls and light to medium data traffic. You have some folks that want to use it like a home computer. It will eventually boil down to buying data. Pricing for light, medium, and heavy use.
I have a Memoir and I have searched the net in a pinch when away from a computer. I have used the GPS for directions and traffic, and I have used it for weather. I am not on it all the time. I use a computer when handy.
You can thank the folks who live for their phone for the bottlenecks.
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It was recently in the news about AT&T trying to slow sales in NY because their infrastructure could not handle the load. They have been implimeenting construction on things they had for the future to relieve the burden. AT&T has the fastest network available in the US. If they can catch up at a couple of bottlenecks they should be fine.
Actually, Sprint now have the fastest network albeit in a very limited number of locations.
My experience is that, although HSDPA used by AT&T is theoretically faster than EVDO used by Verizon, in real life there's very little difference. If anything, Verizon is a little faster. As a very un-scientific test, using the speedtest.net app on my iphone gave me 784kbps down and 220 kpbs up. Using my Verizon Wireless card on my laptop (because AT&T wont let me use the iphone as a tethered modem - network capacity worries I guess), I got 822kbps down and 412kbps up. The difference is small enough to be effectively negligible. Both are fast enough for browsing / email and some low-grade file transfers. What I will say is that the Verizon wireless card will continue to give me those speeds is areas where the iPhone drops to Edge or GPRS.
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3% of AT&T's customers are using 40% of their available bandwidth.
I think most ISP's - wired, wireless or otherwise would claim something similar.
The success of the iPhone has overloaded the systems designed for phone calls and light to medium data traffic. You have some folks that want to use it like a home computer.
There's undoubtedly a small percentage of people who take the p***, but you can't blame the majority of users who simply want to use the device they are paying for in the manner in which it was intended. For me it boils down to AT&T badly underestimated the impact of iPhone on its network.
That said - in the interests of fairness I have to point out that where I live, the AT&T network performs at a perfectly acceptable level and I do love the iPhone as a device.
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:D....thank god I still have my bag phone.
:old:
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Actually, Sprint now have the fastest network albeit in a very limited number of locations.
My experience is that, although HSDPA used by AT&T is theoretically faster than EVDO used by Verizon, in real life there's very little difference. If anything, Verizon is a little faster. As a very un-scientific test, using the speedtest.net app on my iphone gave me 784kbps down and 220 kpbs up. Using my Verizon Wireless card on my laptop (because AT&T wont let me use the iphone as a tethered modem - network capacity worries I guess), I got 822kbps down and 412kbps up. The difference is small enough to be effectively negligible. Both are fast enough for browsing / email and some low-grade file transfers. What I will say is that the Verizon wireless card will continue to give me those speeds is areas where the iPhone drops to Edge or GPRS.
Recent real world tests by several facilities say AT&T by far. The recent news named 3 or 4 companies /watchdogs that tested the systems. I believe it may still be up on CNN Tech News.
I can personally tell you that sprint is a terrible carrier as far as coverage. .
Quoted from CNN...
Analysts say AT&T's problems would have happened on any network that carried Apple's (AAPL, Fortune 500) iPhone because of the overwhelming amount of data downloaded by iPhone users. Over the past three years, AT&T's data traffic increased 5,000% because of the iPhone.
"There's a map for that" commercials have poked fun at AT&T's smaller 3G footprint. And that has helped Verizon take market share, according to Piper Jaffray.
But studies show that AT&T's network is actually faster than Verizon's, and Verizon's ad campaign may be a bit misleading.
Four recent independent studies from wireless industry analysis firms Global Wireless Solutions and Root Wireless, investment bank Piper Jaffray and tech blog Gizmodo all concluded that AT&T's 3G network was the fastest in the United States.
"We drove millions of miles across the country, and our data support AT&T's claim that it has the fastest 3G data network," said Global Wireless CEO Paul Carter.
The map that Verizon shows in its ads is correct, but AT&T's 3G network still covers nearly 80% of the U.S. population, said Carter. And AT&T's non-3G coverage is also broader than its 3G network.
With that kind of pedigree, analysts say AT&T was likely the best-equipped network to handle the iPhone.
"For Verizon ... we still wonder if the network has the capacity and backhaul to support a device with an adoption curve of the iPhone," said Piper Jaffray analyst Chris Larsen in a client note.
more.... http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/29/technology/att/index.htm?CNN=yes (http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/29/technology/att/index.htm?CNN=yes)
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Actually, Sprint now have the fastest network albeit in a very limited number of locations.
My experience is that, although HSDPA used by AT&T is theoretically faster than EVDO used by Verizon, in real life there's very little difference. If anything, Verizon is a little faster. As a very un-scientific test, using the speedtest.net app on my iphone gave me 784kbps down and 220 kpbs up. Using my Verizon Wireless card on my laptop (because AT&T wont let me use the iphone as a tethered modem - network capacity worries I guess), I got 822kbps down and 412kbps up. The difference is small enough to be effectively negligible. Both are fast enough for browsing / email and some low-grade file transfers. What I will say is that the Verizon wireless card will continue to give me those speeds is areas where the iPhone drops to Edge or GPRS.
I connect my laptop all the time to the internet through my phone without any trouble and I have the AT&T Tilt. Maybe they just restrict the iphones, :)
Where I live I never had problems with AT&T service and rarely have I ever seen the edge service. 99% time Im connected with HSPDA.
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There is the problem. The success of the iPhone has overloaded the systems designed for phone calls and light to medium data traffic.
Not entirely true. The iphone is extremely 'chatty' on networks (like all apple products). So it generates more data doing the same thing other phones do with less data. For example because you cannot multitask on the phone it relies on background server notification for instant messaging apps.
The iphone's nice, but it's far from a decent smartphone. It's a good phone media player. But it's calendering and scheduling capabilities suck.
For corporate use it has some serious security concerns (It's also the first phone to have it's own botnet LOL :D ). After the exchange-encrypted phone / cisco vpn client 'mistruths' many corporates are wary of iphones.
And sure the itunes shop is nice for buying music. But if you want to chuck some mp3's on there or some AVI's the iphone once again sucks. For example I can throw some of the latest tv shows in divx format onto my 8Gb SD card and throw that in my treo to watch on flights. No conversion needed, can't do that on an apple product. You have to buy conversion software then wait for hours for the stuff to convert to their format.
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I connect my laptop all the time to the internet through my phone without any trouble and I have the AT&T Tilt. Maybe they just restrict the iphones, :)
Where I live I never had problems with AT&T service and rarely have I ever seen the edge service. 99% time Im connected with HSPDA.
AT&T are specifically blocking the iPhone. It can be used as a tethered modem in other markets (or, I believe, if you jailbrake it).
Shuffler is almost certainly correct in pointing out that had Verizon carried the iPhone rather than AT&T, their network would be on its knees in some areas too. However, my point on the speed of the two networks is that the differences are small enough to be negligible for most users. Who really cares if you can download at 80KB/sec on AT&T and only 76KB/sec on Verizon or whatever. Also, whilst he is correct in stating AT&T non-3G network coverage is extensive, you just wouldn't want to use it for data. Looking at things by geographical area rather than population, Verizon wins. For the 80% of the population covered by AT&T, that's probably not a big deal, but I do find myself in the boonies on a fairly regular basis.
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AT&T are specifically blocking the iPhone. It can be used as a tethered modem in other markets (or, I believe, if you jailbrake it).
Just a dumb question, how do you specifically block the iphone? Does the iphone send its own specific signals that AT&T can block or do they block by phone numbers. Im just curious.
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Just a dumb question, how do you specifically block the iphone? Does the iphone send its own specific signals that AT&T can block or do they block by phone numbers. Im just curious.
Browser most likely, and IMEI.
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Browser most likely, and IMEI.
They were trying to slow the sales. Other than that... what hampers the iPhone will also hamper others I believe.