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Title: Polikarpov I-16 - which type?
Post by: Ghastly on January 04, 2010, 03:18:03 PM
I realize that the Polikarpov I-16 had almost as many variants as a the wife of a certain dictator did pairs of shoes - and that the different armament packages choices available in game belonged to different types - but does anyone know which engine the current in-game version is modeled with?   

Or does the engine change with the armament choice, to correspond to a historical type?

Thanks in advance...
 
Title: Re: Polikarpov I-16 - which type?
Post by: Anaxogoras on January 04, 2010, 04:04:50 PM
I'm very curious to know about the AH I-16.  In Il-2 its engine cuts out under negative g's, but in AH it does not.  I started a thread about this a while back, let me see if I can find it...

Here it is: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270108.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270108.0.html)
Title: Re: Polikarpov I-16 - which type?
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 04, 2010, 04:10:51 PM
I think it's the I-16 Type 24, though not sure. 

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Title: Re: Polikarpov I-16 - which type?
Post by: allaire on January 04, 2010, 06:24:11 PM
The different weapon packages represent different models.

From wikipedia so take it for what it's worth:
I-16 Type 1
    Pre-production series, M-22 engine with 358 kW (480 hp).
I-16 Type 4
    First production version, M-22 engine.
I-16 Type 5
    Type 4 with a streamlined and tapered engine cowling, Shvetsov M-25 engine with 522 kW (700 hp).
I-16 Type 6
    M-25A engine, 545 kW (730 hp).
I-16 Type 10
    Four ShKAS machine guns (two synchronized in the fuselage and two in the wings), windscreen replaced the sliding canopy, could be fitted with retractable skis for winter operations, M-25B engine with 560 kW (750 hp). Hispano-Suiza-built aircraft were powered by the Wright Cyclone R-1820-F-54 engine.
I-16 Type 17
    Type 10 with two ShKAS machine guns and two ShVAK cannon, rubber tail wheel, M-25V engine with 560 kW (750 hp). Some aircraft were fitted with an additional 12.7 mm (0.5 in) Berezin UB machine gun for strafing.
I-16 Type 18
    Type 10 with Shvetsov M-62 engine producing 620 kW (830 hp), with a two-speed supercharger and a variable-pitch propeller. Capable of carrying two 100 l (26 US gal) underwing fuel tanks.
I-16 Type 20
    Four ShKAS, first version capable of carrying underwing fuel tanks with 93 l (25 US gal) capacity based on tanks used on the Japanese Nakajima Ki-27, 80 built.[citation needed]
I-16 Type 24
    Four ShKAS, landing flaps replaced drooping ailerons, tailwheel added, second cockpit door added on the starboard side, Shvetsov M-63 engine with 670 kW (900 hp).
I-16 Type 27
    Type 17 with an M-62 engine.
I-16 Type 28
    Type 24 with two ShKAS and two ShVAK.
I-16 Type 29
    Two synchronized ShKAS in the nose and a single 12.7 mm (0.50 in) UBS in the bottom of the fuselage, no wing guns. Could carry 4-6 RS-82 rockets.
I-16 Type 30
    Re-entered production in 1941-42, M-63 engine.
Title: Re: Polikarpov I-16 - which type?
Post by: Wmaker on January 04, 2010, 08:10:09 PM
Based on performance, it seems to be M-63 engined "hybrid" that represents three different Types via load out options which are Type 24, Type 28 and Type 29. AH-wise the only thing that changed between those types was the armament.

The speeds in AH closely match to the speeds achieved by the Type 24 -prototype. The serial production Type 24s where slower.
Title: Re: Polikarpov I-16 - which type?
Post by: Motherland on January 04, 2010, 08:41:25 PM
Based on performance, it seems to be M-63 engined "hybrid" that represents three different Types via load out options which are Type 24, Type 28 and Type 29. AH-wise the only thing that changed between those types was the armament.

The speeds in AH closely match to the speeds achieved by the Type 24 -prototype. The serial production Type 24s where slower.
IIRC this is what Waffle said when it was introduced.
Title: Re: Polikarpov I-16 - which type?
Post by: BaldEagl on January 05, 2010, 12:12:58 AM
IIRC the type 24 had the highest production so I'm guessing we have the type 24/28 depending on armament.  Those were the two I always lobbied for and I'm glad we got them both.

I finally flew the 28 a fair amount last camp and love it.  Thank you HT.
Title: Re: Polikarpov I-16 - which type?
Post by: Ghastly on January 05, 2010, 05:18:00 PM
Thanks gents! 

That's exactly what I was looking for.

I agree, it's a sweet little ride.  The biggest surprise being how well you can use it as a BnZ platform as a result of the way it retains it's high speed handling.  It may be a 100 mph slower than the late war rides, but you ignore one with altitude at your own peril.

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Title: Re: Polikarpov I-16 - which type?
Post by: Wmaker on January 05, 2010, 06:46:50 PM
Thanks gents! 

That's exactly what I was looking for.


 

Ghastly, here's something you might be interested in reading: http://www.alpinefighter.co.nz/pages/i_16pr.html (http://www.alpinefighter.co.nz/pages/i_16pr.html)
Title: Re: Polikarpov I-16 - which type?
Post by: Ghastly on January 06, 2010, 04:27:46 PM
Thank Wmaker - was an interesting read.   I wonder how much exactly "a very reasonably priced exciting example of flying history" is?

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Title: Re: Polikarpov I-16 - which type?
Post by: Wmaker on January 06, 2010, 04:57:49 PM
I wonder how much exactly "a very reasonably priced exciting example of flying history" is?

Alpine Fighter Collection was selling the I-16s at 350,000$. And then they reduzed their prize further, and they were sold out.

http://www.alpinefighter.co.nz/pages/sales.html (http://www.alpinefighter.co.nz/pages/sales.html)