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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: sandwich on January 04, 2010, 10:30:14 PM
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Anyone got some tips on how to use the A-20 in a furball?
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Anyone got some tips on how to use the A-20 in a furball?
You're going to get some help from some very skilled a-20 sticks. I'm sure there are others but off the top of my head Cobia and Snaphook come to mind. Both are dangerous foes.
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ohhhh boy,where to start.
If your going to furball in a A-20 go light 25% fuel (yeah i know only 15 min flight time) 9 times out of 10 you will get gang raped before you run out of fuel anyways :lol but that is part of the fun.
everyone has their own style of fighting so you will just have to play with it. personally I like to stall fight in the vertical with 09s, rolling scissors works well with spits and f6f.
between 200-275 you can turn with just about any ride in game for the first turn and a half,so make your shot quick and move on.
if you have rudder peddles, take advantage of the A-20s rudder, it is sweet
force overshoots is another tactic that works well,perticurly with the run90s/p47/p51
if you give it a chance and fly it enuff you will learn all its good points and the bad ones[part shedding at high speed mainly]
best place to dogfight/furball is MW it has the best matched plane set.
if you ever want to wing up just yell, i,m usually online in the evening 8 -11 est would be happy to help out.
its late and I know I have more to share but the only thought for me is sleep :lol :salute
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You're going to get some help from some very skilled a-20 sticks. I'm sure there are others but off the top of my head Cobia and Snaphook come to mind. Both are dangerous foes.
Don't forget Widewing. :aok
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As cobia has mentioned it's actually a very versatile bird within the scope of it's limitations. Basically if it's to fast it will break (literally) and if it gets to slow it's a wallowing barge...but in the middle of the speed range it's remarkably agile and responsive with great control authority. Like Cobia I like to fight it in the 200-300 range as much as possible and try to never get it flat turning very long if at all. I've put up a bunch of A-20 clips and you can browse thru and look at them here...
http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/A-20/ (http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/A-20/)
Most of them are more 1 on 1 oriented since I've felt that clips with the A-20 do a good job of highlighting ACM instead of a given planes attributes. There are some that might be considered somewhat "furbally"...
http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/A-20/prowling%20A-20.ahf (http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/A-20/prowling%20A-20.ahf)
http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/meandmiami.ahf (http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/meandmiami.ahf) (in "main" directory)
This last one is from the last scenario and also has a decent mix of stuff including a bit of furballing at the end...also a good example of why you ALWAYS maintain your own SA...I dropped my guard thinking the fight was over when the last 190 was still up and humming :O :furious :mad: :cry
http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/Frame%201%20fun.ahf (http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/Frame%201%20fun.ahf)
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No gun here....but I myself fly it like a really big hurri II (and no...not the HOin type of Hurri)
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Along with what Cobia and Snaphook have said, and I'm not going to pretend to be in their A20 league. I normally try to fight it above the fight if I can, and use shallow dives and zoom climbs to attack my targets. As Cobia mentioned the rudder is very good, and makes for nice snapshots. The 6 50's in the nose make a good fire hose of lead as well. It's a great plane and my primary mud mover in this game (unless they give us the A26 :pray).
:salute
BigRat
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Thanks for the help everybody.
And those videos are great Snaphook. I'm not a bad pilot in the A-20 but you make me look like a complete noob.
Gonna try to use it as my primary A/c this tour.
<S>
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Snap is one of the best pilots I've seen in the A-20. (Plus he's my CO, so I have to say nice things about him). :salute
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Snap is one of the best pilots I've seen in the A-20. (Plus he's my CO, so I have to say nice things about him). :salute
Hehe :D
There are actually a number of guys who fly the A-20 very well. I'd put Cobia and WW up at the top but under them are a bunch of others. I was very impressed with how BigRat handles the A-20 (as well as the rest of the guys who flew with 221BAD. It's a fun bird that rewards good ACM and offers a surprisingly wide variety of options for how to fly it in any given situation....
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I don't particularly remember whether it was 1LTCAP or 1pLuS44 who told me this, but I was told that to fly the A-20 well, treat it like an overweight and underpowered P-38. I tried it and didn't understand what they were talking about, so I chose the Boston III instead.
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Only 3 players I would ask for advice about fighting in the A-20, snaphook, Widewing and Cobia38. Those have been the only 3 I've come across that can actually make the A-20 dance.
ack-ack
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I'd have to agree with ack ack on that, bout the only think I know about dogfighting in it is to keep your speed up.