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Title: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: Sonicblu on January 08, 2010, 03:36:10 PM
Went on a bomber mission the other night flying high cap in a p47M.  It seem like i never got over 200 with the white needle. Was at 20 to 22k.

Is there a best plane for this or what was i doing wrong. I guess there is no turn and burn up that high my plane wanted to fall out of the sky.

I got chased down by a p51 la7 and sniper finnaly got me in a 190 a8.  It seemed like I had the slowest ride there.

I flew a 262 the other night only to get tore up by a 51. at 20k  Should I be watching the red needle or the white one on the gauge.

Is it all about keeping speed and not losing it. Some general guide lines would help or links to threads on the subject. I saw a thread awhile back but never paid any attention because I almost never fly above 6k in the MA.
Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: ImADot on January 08, 2010, 04:02:17 PM
White needle is indicated airspeed - based on air density.  Red needle is true airspeed.  Up that high the air is thin, so your white needle will show you flying a lot slower than you acutally are.  Pay attention to the white needle, as it is what helps you determine how aggressive you can jerk the plane around without stalling.

If your plane easily stalls at 5k while flying 180mph and turning hard, at 25k you might be going 400 but the thin air makes it seem like you're flying closer to 180 and your plane will react accordingly.

That's my limited, non-scientific opinion as a cartoon pilot.
Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: Blooz on January 09, 2010, 02:58:57 AM
So much that could be wrong.

Start with joystick and throttle calibration.

Check to make sure each axis is moving it's full potential as well as the rudder and throttle.
Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: Sonicblu on January 09, 2010, 10:20:59 PM
cc I will take a few high alt flights and check things out.

I think that is the only two time ive been to over 20k playing AH.
Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: Spikes on January 09, 2010, 11:14:30 PM
At that alt think of it this way...white needle is maneuverability, and red needle is speed.
Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: Gooss on January 10, 2010, 01:19:48 PM
Reminder: The TA terrain, ahta08, has high-alt bases from which to launch.  Offline, drones are enabled for target practice.

Wanted to save you climbout time.
Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: wgmount on January 10, 2010, 01:32:18 PM
Reminder: The TA terrain, ahta08, has high-alt bases from which to launch.  Offline, drones are enabled for target practice.

Wanted to save you climbout time.

If you launch from a3 SE you'll air spawn 30k over A1
Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: Sonicblu on January 11, 2010, 01:04:18 PM
thks guys this will help alot :salute
Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: Blooz on January 11, 2010, 03:21:27 PM
It's been three days. I'm curious as to the problem? Was it stick calibration? Were your flaps down? Flying out of trim?

I took a P47M to 20k and the IAS (the white needle) was almost 300mph. Even with constant maneuvering you should have been moving along near that speed.

What was it?
Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: Kirin on January 12, 2010, 07:49:44 AM
A wild guess would be low RPM. Happens to me from time to time since I got RPM mapped to a rotary on my throttle. Sometimes I reduce RPM to save fuel and forget to push it up again. So although you be slamming your throttle all the way up you could have set low RPM which could explain the low power output.

That beside the high alt thing everyone else was talking about...  ;)
Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: BaldEagl on January 12, 2010, 08:03:26 AM
It sounds like a classic case of forgetting to put either the gear or the flaps up.  If that's the case don't feel bad.  I've done it and have seen many others forget over the years.
Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: Koendog on January 12, 2010, 09:13:10 AM
A wild guess would be low RPM. Happens to me from time to time since I got RPM mapped to a rotary on my throttle. Sometimes I reduce RPM to save fuel and forget to push it up again. So although you be slamming your throttle all the way up you could have set low RPM which could explain the low power output.

 :rock Now thats how you smoke a motor!  :D

Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: Sonicblu on January 12, 2010, 10:12:56 AM
I will let you know tonight. I have some time I can spend checking things out. Not sure I did lower my rpm and manifold to cruise at one point.

That may be the problem i shoved throtle forward but im thinking i never raise the rpm back up.
Title: Re: What was i doing wrong.
Post by: morfiend on January 12, 2010, 06:50:31 PM
Open E6B on clipboard and check to see your getting the rated MAP and RPM,if not maybe a calibration of your throttle and what you use for rpm is in order.

   :salute

 PS: remember at some alts the engine may not produce maximum MAP but the rpm should be at it's rated rpm.