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Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: Fishu on December 11, 2000, 04:20:00 AM
Since were at this... I'll give couple planes to guess:

first one
 (http://www.kolumbus.fi/fishu/forum/q1.jpg)

and second one, with two pictures of it
 (http://www.kolumbus.fi/fishu/forum/q2.jpg)

 (http://www.kolumbus.fi/fishu/forum/q3.jpg)
Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: Staga on December 11, 2000, 04:37:00 AM
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Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: juzz on December 11, 2000, 04:54:00 AM
The bottom one is a Tempest II  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: RAM on December 11, 2000, 05:09:00 AM
#1 is a He112.

#2...IAR 80?
Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: juzz on December 11, 2000, 05:31:00 AM
Ah ha! The first one is a Pyorremyrsky, one prototype built.
Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: RAM on December 11, 2000, 05:45:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by juzz:
Ah ha! The first one is a Pyorremyrsky, one prototype built.


Since when did soviets design planes with inverted-V engines?

That plane has the v-bank of cylinders clearly inveted. Its German, a He112, or a He100.
Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: Jochen on December 11, 2000, 06:19:00 AM
 
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Since when did soviets design planes with inverted-V engines?

Wake up, Pyörremyrsky is finnish design based on Bf 109G.

 
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That plane has the v-bank of cylinders clearly inveted. Its German, a He112, or a He100.

No, it's still not german.

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Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: juzz on December 11, 2000, 06:54:00 AM
For RAM
   (http://canopus.lpi.msk.su/~watson/wwii/he112-d.gif)  

He 100
   (http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~ortmann/he100-2.jpg)

Oh, and the bottom one IS a Finnish Myrsky(tempest), of that I am sure.

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Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: Sundog on December 11, 2000, 09:45:00 AM
I would have guessed He-100 for the first one as well. The second one I recognized as Finnish, but not the type.

On that first design, it looks like they literally appropriated the Me-109G's nose from the firewall forward. Is that the case? If you have more information on both of those birds, please post it here, it should prove interesting. Thanks for the pics  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
SD
Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: SageFIN on December 11, 2000, 10:33:00 AM
The bottom one looks to me a little like Pyry, a Finnish training plane.

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Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: RAM on December 11, 2000, 11:40:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by juzz:
Ah ha! The first one is a Pyorremyrsky, one prototype built

The second one I dont know, the first, for sure, seems a He-100. (named it He112, as I still confuse the early and late models, as their numerals are screwed, the later model the earlier numeral, and the earlier model the later numeral  :rolleyes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Look the pics you posted of the He100, it is practically identical to the first pic Fishu posted.

The IAR80 was a wild gess, and I was 99% sure that the second pic is other plane.
And I still have no idea on wich one it is.

BTW I had no idea of that Pyorremyrsky plane  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) its name seemed russian to me  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

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Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: Staga on December 11, 2000, 12:13:00 PM
Juzz is right   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
edit: Some links http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/myrsky.html (http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/myrsky.html)  http://www.samoloty.ip.pl/str135.htm (http://www.samoloty.ip.pl/str135.htm)  http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/faf.html (http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/faf.html)  http://www.jiop.fi/ksimuseo/vlpy.html (http://www.jiop.fi/ksimuseo/vlpy.html)

Good link about FAF's history: http://www.saunalahti.fi/~fta/history.htm (http://www.saunalahti.fi/~fta/history.htm)

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Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: Fishu on December 11, 2000, 07:48:00 PM
Ahhh.. staga, you're ruining all the fun  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: Fishu on December 12, 2000, 08:28:00 AM
Plane in first image is Pyörremyrsky, like some of you knew it.
in second and third image, is Myrsky (finns tempest.. not quite like brits  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif))
It is actually Myrsky III, I believe
first Myrsky image is post war photo.
Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: juzz on December 12, 2000, 08:40:00 AM
The British Hurricane is not quite like the Finns "hurricane" either...  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: Fishu on December 12, 2000, 11:54:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by juzz:
The British Hurricane is not quite like the Finns "hurricane" either...   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Its canopy area resembles slightly the one on spitfire, though  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Name this plane (4 & 5)
Post by: juzz on December 12, 2000, 02:44:00 PM
looks more like the one off the tempest to me.