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Title: Flaps deployment speed for the 109 too low?
Post by: niklas on June 16, 2001, 10:33:00 AM

Hello

This is a part from a 109F1/F2 report:
 (http://www.freenet.de/luftwaffeln/109flaps.gif)

It´s in old german letters, and says:
Maximum allowed speeds:
a) with flaps FULL lowered: 300km/h (185mph)
b) with gear down: 350km/h  (217mph)

At the moment the 109 can lower the first stage of the flaps at ~160mph, the gear at ~180mph

I know that we donßt have a F1/F2 in the game, but the wing design didn´t changed very much in the following versions, right? In opposite, wasn´t the wing even strenghtened for the G-series?

Anyway, pyro can you fix it? The current speed to lower the flaps completly is really a bit low for the 109 at the moment.

thx
niklas

Title: Flaps deployment speed for the 109 too low?
Post by: minus on June 16, 2001, 03:06:00 PM

imagine the ALIED horor a 109 who can use flaps for turn ! not only just for landing like now  ;)

Title: Flaps deployment speed for the 109 too low?
Post by: DB603 on June 17, 2001, 03:36:00 AM

S!

 What we are missing here too is the radiator flaps.They could be deployed on ANY speed to slow down the plane.This was used pretty much by LW/other 109 users to decelerate.Also flaps were used during combat to enhance the turn,but according to an excellent book Pilot's view,the 109 was a good turner even without use of flaps.As a sidenote..at 350km/h U could pull the 109 as much as U liked and it didn't stall,because of the stiffer controls.And when stall buffeting occured,just ease on stick a bit but can still pull.When slats pop open,then U need to be more careful,since the edge of envelope is near.But we don't have them in AH,if I recall right,neither the radiator flaps(manual/auto).Still..109 is NOT the best turning plane,but can hold it's own.

[ 06-17-2001: Message edited by: DB603 ]

Title: Flaps deployment speed for the 109 too low?
Post by: Naudet on June 17, 2001, 05:13:00 AM

DB i just got a book (Greenhearts - 1st in combat with the Dora), and i read about the radiator flaps use as airbreak.

Pilots stated the put them out to force an overshoot, and most often this worked.

Also it seems that the p51 had a higher minimum flying speed than the D9, which is in AH inverted, where the D9 cant fly slower than the P51.

[ 06-18-2001: Message edited by: Naudet ]

Title: Flaps deployment speed for the 109 too low?
Post by: Bodhi on June 17, 2001, 09:03:00 AM

Naudet,

Is it your first boob, or are you just referring to another aquisition of such?

  :D

Title: Flaps deployment speed for the 109 too low?
Post by: Wotan on June 17, 2001, 01:09:00 PM

that boob good reading?

Title: Flaps deployment speed for the 109 too low?
Post by: Wilbus on June 18, 2001, 03:09:00 AM

These kind of things are what we need, allies have there dive flaps, now give us LW:ers our special flaps etc!  :)

Title: Flaps deployment speed for the 109 too low?
Post by: Eagler on June 19, 2001, 04:17:00 PM

If they get the 109f to turn any better, they'll have to take away the perk points  :)

Eagler