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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: caldera on January 13, 2010, 10:22:49 AM
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Looking for info on SBD ordinance, I found this:
http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/hist-ac/sbd-5.pdf
About 4 pages in, there is a mention of .50 cal gunpods (like P-39) that were developed but typically supplanted by rocket racks. The SBD would be much more useful if it could carry these. Also mentioned is the wing mounts could carry up to 325 .lb bombs, where in-game version has ineffective 100 .lb-ers. Searching threads, I learned that the 1,000 .lb/(2) 100 .lb set up we have was max recommended loadout for carrier launches. Intuition tells me that 8 rockets/(2) 1,000 .lbs was over the max recommended loadout for the F4U-1D carrier launches, yet we have those. Quid pro quo, I say. Anyone else want rockets and/or 250 .lb wing bombs for the SBD?
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+1 :aok
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+1 :rock
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+1 but you might want to look up the version history to find out more on which models the modifications were performed on and which squadrons had them.
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(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/smilies/6549.gif) I'm looking, but so far just another vague mention of rockets being used. I did get a picture of it though:
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/sbdrockets.jpg)
It was a very small pic, so I had to enlarge and save in paint.
Forgive all the extraneous details as I have not the skill to show the picture without them.
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+1 :cheers:
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If HTC can roll up multiple variants of the I-16 into one joint, then I would hope that the SBD (and other aircraft with minuscule differences between models) could have its horizon expanded. Right now, it is a "huh, a what" aircraft is all three arenas.
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I think it'd be used more for ground attack in the earlier arenas.
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+1
I think it'd be used more for ground attack in the earlier arenas.
um sbds were used to dogfight in the early stages of guadle canal(excuse incorrect spelling if any)if I recal correctly
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+1um sbds were used to dogfight in the early stages of guadle canal(excuse incorrect spelling if any)if I recal correctly
ROCK AND ROLL SQUAD FTW!!!11! WOOOOT :rock
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Wrong thread. Everybody knows the ROCK AND ROLL SQUAD flys B5Ns exclusively. Everything is mincemeat in our path. :t
Those Ar-234 tards got their technique from studying us. :neener:
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I only have one thing to say...
(http://lightspeedanime.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/its-a-trap.jpg)
:rofl :lol
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Wrong thread. Everybody knows the ROCK AND ROLL SQUAD flys B5Ns exclusively. Everything is mincemeat in our path. :t
Those Ar-234 tards got their technique from studying us. :neener:
caldera meet me in the squad the rockandroll thread
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ANYHOW....
Rockets and more bombs on the SBD, oh yeah! :aok
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Don't take this as a no but, land-based SBD's only fired a total of 232 rockets during the war. Carrier-based SBD's never fired any rockets at all, so it was very rare. About the time that rocket usage became prevalent the SBD's were being replaced with SB2C's and they used a lot of rockets, 5,542 to be exact.
Heck, PBJ's (B-25C's/B-25H's/B-25J's) fired 2,951 but that's another wish!
So it was very rare, but it was used and would be fun.
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+1um sbds were used to dogfight in the early stages of guadle canal(excuse incorrect spelling if any)if I recal correctly
I know you're a kid and all so I am not trying to be mean but where in the Hell did you get this information? Is it from your uncle that got shot down in a P-82? I mean seriously...
The Dauntless was not used as a fighter and the only time they would 'dogfight' is when they were bounced by Japanese fighters. They never took off to engage the Japanese fighters in aerial combat.
On Guadalcanal, the Dauntless was used in the recce and anti-shipping role and not as fighters.
ack-ack
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<snippy snippy>
ack-ack
I'd say you did rather well for not being mean to the poor kid :)
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I know you're a kid and all so I am not trying to be mean but where in the Hell did you get this information? Is it from your uncle that got shot down in a P-82? I mean seriously...
The Dauntless was not used as a fighter and the only time they would 'dogfight' is when they were bounced by Japanese fighters. They never took off to engage the Japanese fighters in aerial combat.
On Guadalcanal, the Dauntless was used in the recce and anti-shipping role and not as fighters.
ack-ack
seson 1 of dogfights episode name long odds. what me to link the youtube vid to you?
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seson 1 of dogfights episode name long odds. what me to link the youtube vid to you?
Oh jeebus...
You're referring to the fight involving Stanley "Swede" Vejtasa flying a SBD-3 when he was bounced by three Zeros as he was returning from a bombing mission. He did not take off with the sole purpose of dogfighting in his Dauntless. Again, the Dauntless was not used at any time as a fighter, if it did engage in a dogfight it was because it was bounced and it was trying to defend itself.
You may be confusing it with the TBM, which was used by some squadrons as a night fighter.
ack-ack
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Oh jeebus...
You're referring to the fight involving Stanley "Swede" Vejtasa flying a SBD-3 when he was bounced by three Zeros as he was returning from a bombing mission. He did not take off with the sole purpose of dogfighting in his Dauntless. Again, the Dauntless was not used at any time as a fighter, if it did engage in a dogfight it was because it was bounced and it was trying to defend itself.
You may be confusing it with the TBM, which was used by some squadrons as a night fighter.
ack-ack
well the show sure says that his sole mission was to protext the airfield due to a lack of fighters in the area
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seson 1 of dogfights episode name long odds. what me to link the youtube vid to you?
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/the_leander/Third-party-facepalm.jpg)
Btw plus +1 for SBD Rockets.
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+1
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well the show sure says that his sole mission was to protext the airfield due to a lack of fighters in the area
edit:i mean protect
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seson 1 of dogfights episode name long odds. what me to link the youtube vid to you?
I think this statement has just explained EVERYTHING!
Apart from his horrific spelling.
That can never be explained. Aren't Xmas Holidays over yet?
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I think this statement has just explained EVERYTHING!
Apart from his horrific spelling.
That can never be explained. Aren't Xmas Holidays over yet?
homeschooled
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Well....ah nevermind. I'll be good, and save Skuzzy the trouble.
See Rule #4
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Well....ah nevermind. I'll be good, and save Skuzzy the trouble.
See Rule #4
LMAO...after his last entry...I wholeheartedly agree.
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+1 for the rockets. :aok I intend to leave the poor kid alone on this thread....... :salute
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Don't take this as a no but, land-based SBD's only fired a total of 232 rockets during the war. Carrier-based SBD's never fired any rockets at all, so it was very rare. About the time that rocket usage became prevalent the SBD's were being replaced with SB2C's and they used a lot of rockets, 5,542 to be exact.
Heck, PBJ's (B-25C's/B-25H's/B-25J's) fired 2,951 but that's another wish!
So it was very rare, but it was used and would be fun.
I take that as a yes. :D Thanks Baumer.
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homeschooled
It's not working.
wrongway
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I think that in general, there should be the ability to choose land-based configurations that have a basis in historical fact. I know there's no such thing as a "simple piece of code" but it would be great to see extra options available if one intends to launch from land. In that context, rockets on the SBD would be great.
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Were the rockets carried by the US Navy SBD - or the USAAF's equivalent, the A-24?
And there WAS a famous US Navy SBD crew which was credited with seven victories over Japanese aircraft whilst flying from USS Lexington during the Battle of the Coral Sea: Ensign J.A. Leppla and his gunner, J. Liska, of Scouting Two. Leppla was credited with two Zekes and a recce aircraft during and after the attack on the Japanese carrier Shoho on 7th May 1942, and Liska with a Zeke. The following day, Lexington launched her F4Fs and SBDs to fly CAP and three torpedo bombers were claimed by the pair, who eventually had to recover aboard USS Yorktown after 'Lady Lex' was hit.
Personally, I've always thought their claims were made in good faith during the heat of the moment, and it was very unlikely that they actually managed to down all of them - rather like the overclaiming by 8th USAAF gunners over Germany - but they were brave men all the same, to do battle against Zekes in a 'Slow But Deadly'.
:salute
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Don't take this as a no but, land-based SBD's only fired a total of 232 rockets during the war. Carrier-based SBD's never fired any rockets at all, so it was very rare. About the time that rocket usage became prevalent the SBD's were being replaced with SB2C's and they used a lot of rockets, 5,542 to be exact.
Heck, PBJ's (B-25C's/B-25H's/B-25J's) fired 2,951 but that's another wish!
So it was very rare, but it was used and would be fun.
We had FSC (flying sandwich capabilities) back then? what happened?
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It's not working.
wrongway
Agreed to the fullest...
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+1 :cheers:
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(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/the_leander/Third-party-facepalm.jpg)
Btw plus +1 for SBD Rockets.
:rofl :rofl Should have the kids mom face palm him. :rofl :rofl
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:rofl :rofl Should have the kids mom face palm him. :rofl :rofl
you're one to talk were'd you get our avatar the lame animations store :lol
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you're one to talk were'd you get our avatar the lame animations store :lol
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you're one to talk were'd you get our avatar the lame animations store :lol
Leave Bronk alone, at least he knows how to spell and admit when he is wrong. :devil
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you're one to talk were'd you get our avatar the lame animations store :lol
Look at Bronk's location...you will see that his grasp of the english language far exceeds yours...I wouldn't try dissin until you learn spellin.
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you're one to talk were'd you get our avatar the lame animations store :lol
Love your avitard... oops haven't figured out how yet ehh?
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Love your avitard... oops haven't figured out how yet ehh?
what avatar...it's writing
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Sarcasm, its what we will teach you AFTER you pass 6th grade language arts. :neener:
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Sarcasm, it's what we will teach you AFTER you pass 6th grade language arts. :neener:
Unless you feel it's "cool" to type/write in a... lets just say stupid... manner. :D
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love the SBD bring on the ords