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Title: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Delirium on January 15, 2010, 02:25:22 AM
I'm holding a basic P38 clinic February 6th, at 7pm-830pm EST, all are welcome! This is a repeat of a prior clinic that was run last year.

This class is designed for beginners to learn the P38 who already have experience in other aircraft and wish to transition to the 38, or those looking to learn the 38's weakness.

This clinic will cover the fuel loadouts, convergence, the basic Immelman merge, use of flaps, compression, side slipping, snaprolling and trim.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Bruv119 on January 15, 2010, 08:17:29 AM

This clinic will cover the fuel loadouts, convergence, the basic Immelman merge, use of flaps, compression, side slipping, snaprolling and trim.

No bombing techniques?    :P  :eek:
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: morfiend on January 15, 2010, 08:58:19 AM
should be able to attend.

   :salute
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: texastc316 on January 15, 2010, 01:17:35 PM
Ill be there again. It was a good clinic first time around. Might bring some squaddies.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: 2ADoc on January 15, 2010, 02:07:50 PM
Cool I will be there.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Sonicblu on January 15, 2010, 06:53:28 PM
great i will mark it on my cal. Will be there unless the creeks rise.  :lol
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: EskimoJoe on January 16, 2010, 01:25:11 AM
I love the P-38, but I just can't fly the beast! I'll see if I can show , thank you for the advance notice  :salute
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: TwinBoom on January 17, 2010, 11:00:01 AM
i would like to learn th 38 ive never tried it before
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Sunka on January 20, 2010, 12:57:22 AM
I will start to learn the lightning when they put a darn f6 bomb sight on the thing.  :pray
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: stran on January 20, 2010, 01:55:53 AM
I will start to learn the lightning when they put a darn f6 bomb sight on the thing.  :pray
but dive bombing is more fun. Except the 38 is my last choice if im jabo. Qhen del posted the date my first thought was, why couldnt it be sooner! 
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: uptown on January 20, 2010, 07:11:00 AM
i would like to learn th 38 ive never tried it before
I could of swore I seen a Tw........ah nvm.  :) You should go. I'd like to have a couple fights with ya when it's over. :joystick:

So glad Del is having at a time i can make it! Thankya Delirium  :salute
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: dmdchief on January 22, 2010, 11:13:01 PM
where Del?
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Delirium on January 23, 2010, 01:13:37 AM
It will be in the Training Arena...
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Damionte on January 23, 2010, 12:26:04 PM
I should be there.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: 68ZooM on January 23, 2010, 03:01:26 PM
hope to make it, love the 38 but need to learn it better
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: dbh991 on January 25, 2010, 06:46:29 AM
I will be there.  Thanks in advance!

-Doug ( aka H7 )
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Joker on February 02, 2010, 07:46:56 AM

Looking forward to it.
Thanks Del!   :aok

Joker
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: xxIENAxx on February 02, 2010, 08:43:38 AM
I'm holding a basic P38 clinic February 6th, at 7pm-830pm EST, all are welcome! This is a repeat of a prior clinic that was run last year.

This class is designed for beginners to learn the P38 who already have experience in other aircraft and wish to transition to the 38, or those looking to learn the 38's weakness.

This clinic will cover the fuel loadouts, convergence, the basic Immelman merge, use of flaps, compression, side slipping, snaprolling and trim.

I won't be able to be there   :( , maybe one of you guys will post a film after?  :pray  Please,pretty please  :)

Thanks
IENA
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Raptor05121 on February 02, 2010, 01:21:44 PM
ill be there! looking to improve my Lightning skills
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: flatiron1 on February 04, 2010, 07:18:54 AM
I in,
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: humble on February 06, 2010, 08:13:21 PM
Great stuff....

Couple of "basic" things really stood out to me. 1st is importance of monitoring G load in the verts in the 38. 2nd is remembering to preset the "falloff" at the top by dropping on wing very slightly in the zoom. While they may be seecond nature to some even for someone like me they are fundementals that need to be reenforced. Took a 38 out and noticed an immediate improvement in both E management and lift vecotr control during the vertical reverses :aok :salute
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: uptown on February 06, 2010, 08:27:35 PM
Doh!  :furious I forgot. Watching Nascar all day  :mad:
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: EskimoJoe on February 07, 2010, 01:51:17 AM
Later the night of the clinic, I upped a 38J and managed to get 3 kills by simply doing vertical stall maneuvers. I was finally killed when two Corsairs ganged up on me. It wasn't the fact that there were two, but the better of the two managed to knock out one of my engines mid-hammerhead at literally 0mph, and put me into an un-recoverable spin, (even though I was around 3k alt).

Great fun! The clinic was a blast, had a great fight, lasted and killed  in the 38! Thanks once again Delirium!
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Delirium on February 07, 2010, 06:42:02 AM
the better of the two managed to knock out one of my engines mid-hammerhead at literally 0mph, and put me into an un-recoverable spin, (even though I was around 3k alt).

Next time, kill the remaining engine and you can recover. I had a similar incident fighting a Spit16 and a P51B yesterday.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: EskimoJoe on February 07, 2010, 01:34:58 PM
Next time, kill the remaining engine and you can recover. I had a similar incident fighting a Spit16 and a P51B yesterday.

Ah, I can't believe I didn't think of that! Haha, thanks for the tip  :aok
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: fuzeman on February 07, 2010, 03:02:18 PM
I won't be able to be there   :( , maybe one of you guys will post a film after?  :pray  Please,pretty please  :)

Thanks
IENA

We plan on posting it on our site and when it is I will mention it here. Delirium did give us his OK to do so.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Delirium on February 08, 2010, 12:07:33 AM
Delirium did give us his OK to do so.

I did?

Damn, I didn't even powder my face or anything. You did get my good side in the film, didn't you?
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: fuzeman on February 08, 2010, 05:48:06 PM
I did?

Damn, I didn't even powder my face or anything. You did get my good side in the film, didn't you?

Yes, but you can revoke that if you want to. Of course technically there is a fuze and a fuzeman, the latter being myself.
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/fuzeman/Clinicpermissiontopost.jpg)

You were in a P-38J, of course your good side   :)
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Delirium on February 08, 2010, 06:12:51 PM
Yes, but you can revoke that if you want to.

I was only kidding, I have no problems with that.

I do have one regret, I wish I had answered Mulligan's question a little better during the Clinic, it has been haunting me since Saturday.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: fuzeman on February 08, 2010, 06:14:57 PM
I was only kidding, I have no problems with that.

I do have one regret, I wish I had answered Mulligan's question a little better during the Clinic, it has been haunting me since Saturday.

I may cut-n-paste the text portion and not use the film I had of it. If I do it that, I'd be more than happy to include any additional things you want to add.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: AAIbyteu on February 08, 2010, 06:42:46 PM
Delirium, could not be there for the class but really wanted to.  Do you have anything that you could post that would help in flying that bird?  Please post when you will do it again and I will be there.  Some of the squad mates took a class and it did a lot to help them.  I can still take AAJagerX in a spit though :aok
Thanks
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: xxIENAxx on February 10, 2010, 10:12:59 AM
We plan on posting it on our site and when it is I will mention it here. Delirium did give us his OK to do so.

Thanks  :aok I can't wait  :D


IENA
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: fuzeman on February 11, 2010, 10:40:42 AM
Thanks  :aok I can't wait  :D
IENA

When it's up I will notify people in this thread. Link is in my signature but as I said it's not up yet.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Happy1 on February 16, 2010, 07:42:27 PM
Anyone besides fuzeman tape this lecture??  If so, don't be shy & pls post  :salute
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Tordon22 on February 19, 2010, 04:35:26 PM
No pressure fuse, just looking for a progress update :) .

Thanks in advance.

Zap
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: fuzeman on February 27, 2010, 04:47:29 PM
   Well, last night I put over 2 hours into editing the film and getting the text portion out of it in an easy to read format. I may have put in too much work as posting the Part 1 film was only 826kb and the edited portion in .png format was 234kb. A savings of a whopping 592Kb.  Also when I opened my file the Viewer tried to get it into a single frame resulting in a small unreadable strip of gobbledygook.
  However thanks to Luft, TheSpecialists web guru, it has been posted it up in a very readable fashion.  You can find both the Part 1 text portion and the Part 2 In-flight portion of Delirium's P-38 clinic here: http://www.fw190.org/P38Clinic.htm .
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Tordon22 on February 27, 2010, 04:55:29 PM
Thanks a bunch to Fuzeman and Luft! I appreciate you doing this :)


Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: fuzeman on February 27, 2010, 05:00:03 PM
Thanks a bunch to Fuzeman and Luft! I appreciate you doing this :)

Couldn't happen without Delirium!!!  Thanks again Delirium for an enjoyable clinic, not to mention very informative. I've been using the J and L alot more than I ever did before. Some good days and some real stinkers but having fun none the less  :D
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: xxIENAxx on March 10, 2010, 03:36:22 PM
Couldn't happen without Delirium!!!  Thanks again Delirium for an enjoyable clinic, not to mention very informative. I've been using the J and L alot more than I ever did before. Some good days and some real stinkers but having fun none the less  :D

Thanks to all of you guys  :salute Thanks for the film Fuzeman.


IENA
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: badhorse on March 13, 2010, 08:01:35 AM
Not sure how I missed it but I did.  I went to the TA about 20 minutes prior to 4 EST. I stayed there for a couple of hours just flying around but I never did see the P-38 clinic.
Are these special training clinics held at the primary base on the training map? Are they Bish, Nit or Rook?
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: fuzeman on March 13, 2010, 09:26:07 AM
Not sure how I missed it but I did.  I went to the TA about 20 minutes prior to 4 EST. I stayed there for a couple of hours just flying around but I never did see the P-38 clinic.
Are these special training clinics held at the primary base on the training map? Are they Bish, Nit or Rook?

This one was held at A127, the bishop base due east of A1, and used Vox channel 180. Delirium, morfiend and I repeatedly broadcast text messages of where it was and what channel was being used.
As posted above you can find both the text portion and inflight demonstration portion here, http://www.fw190.org/P38Clinic.htm .
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: badhorse on March 13, 2010, 01:01:47 PM
Thanks fuzeman. Maybe I can make the next one.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: infowars on March 19, 2010, 07:36:17 PM
Thanks Delirium...  Much appreciated.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Delirium on April 23, 2010, 02:05:05 PM
bump- apologies

Couple students wanted to see the text of the clinic.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: strong10 on April 23, 2010, 09:37:51 PM
Looking forward to it.. Only 9 more months
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Rattler on April 26, 2010, 07:32:16 PM
Is there any way i can get some 1 on 1 time with a proficient 38 stick? I chose the 38 as my main ride a while ago and love it.I really want to get better in the bird.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: fuzeman on April 26, 2010, 11:56:53 PM
To my knowledge Delirium also does private sessions for more involved Training. I suggest PMing him here and going over that.
Title: Re: P38 Clinic Feb 6th, 7pm est
Post by: Rattler on April 27, 2010, 03:08:37 PM
Thanks Fuzeman will do.