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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: legoman on January 15, 2010, 03:27:12 PM
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i need peoples opinions on what my next plane should be since i have mastered the fire bird commander2 (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac354/LGflipphone/31NV9VEYBCL_SL500_AA280_.jpg) i still need to work on landings so please advice something that will test my landing skills. Thank you everyone :salute
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See Rule #2
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sorry had wrong pic up, got the right one up now
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See Rules #2, #4
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(http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac354/LGflipphone/images-2.jpg) Trainer as in real life rc trainer!
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HIGH QUALITY! AIRPLANES!!!!!!!!!! NO STUPID AIR HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If you cannot respond to the thread in an appropriate manner, expect to get a suspension from the board. I am tired of this nonsense.
I know two year olds that act better that this. I really have to wonder who are the "squeakers" in this thread.
Apologies legoman.
Carry on.
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Just because you have been able to land your RC plane without breaking it doesn't mean that you've 'mastered' it by any stretch of the imagination. Keep practicing with it until you have XX amount of hours flying it before you move on to a more advanced RC plane. Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day.
ack-ack
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i kept it in the air for 35 mins yesterday only had to land to switch batteries i logged over 2 1/2 hours in this bird
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It is not possible to master any R/C plane with only 2.5 hours of flight time.
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Reacting to where its going is what most beginners call flying a R/C plane. Making it do what you have planned in your head as you are controlling it is a good start to mastery.
I have been slamming sticks for 22 years now. I fly gliders, Gas, Pattern precision flying 3D...even 100mph Pylon racing. I have trained many first time pilots and been the first pilot to fly others Planes that they just built all winter long. I am very accomplished at the hobby But I am the first to tell you I always have something to learn.
Place a small disposable plastic cup out in front of you and practice a consistent approach to it and knock it over with a wheels. Place some cray paper between 2 poles and Limbo under it. lower it until its only inches taller than your plane. Touch the runway in the same spot repeatedly.
Practice flat turns, figure eights hitting the same visual markers on the top and bottom of the flat fig. 8. The options are endless in learning how your bird fly's.
Do a maneuver while the plane is going away from you , NOW do the same one as the plane is coming toward you.
Dont react to what it does, MAKE IT DO WHAT YOU WANT AND WHEN YOU WANT.
Kam
MASTERY comes in many forms...Must see...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi0hrjqU15I
This is called DYNAMIC Soaring od DSing. This is a Glider No Power. I Had a 60" all carbon fiber Glider called a Shark Built custom in San Diego. I was clocked at just over 150 MPH doing this.
You start on the front of the slope for lift then come in on a high attack into the top of the Roter on the back of the slope then glance off the roter at the top of each turn. Talk about flying behind your plane. You must have total control..Its a rush.
KAM
The Master at work
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=3734860
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First i have logged 2.5 hours in 3 days i would keep on flying had it not been for school and battery life getting in the way. second this plane is hard to land since it only has rudder and throttle build in, and third i crashed after a 15 min flight pulled to many G's with the A.C.T. off and the wing bent up 90 degree's and i lost control all together, came up with the solution of installing a carbon fiber rod in the wing to help with the turns. And the advice on how to practice landing was prefect thanks for the advice.
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well .. next up is adding more to the mix .. full flight controls and perhaps flaps .. several great planes to choose from
that work in this category as excellent advanced trainer types ..I useda thrash on a foam Cessna Cardinal at this stage ..slightly overpowered so takeoffs were short and could get to alt fairly quickly.
I fly 'em till I am completely bored to tears with 'em before movin up .. the one I built after the Cessna was a 60 powered Sureflite Foam Spitfire,
..flew that one for over 2 years ..it was massively overpowered and I basically just wore it out :)
Got to the point where it was more 'glas and epoxy than foam, weight almost doubled from initial flight from all the repairs .. LOL.
Little things like elevator seperating on high speed dive, flaps out of sync, engine quit on takeoff, ..and just plain screwing up at low alt a few times :) Fun plane to fly tho .. I never got tired of it .. got offered more than I thought it was worth after thrashing it :)
-GE aka Frank
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Well i want something with a v tail it seems to make it more stable in my mind. All the Firebird series planes have a v-tail, however mine is the only one not included with the elevator in the mix of rudder.
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You want to test your landing ?
Try to set up an aircraft carrier mock up to the same scale as the plane.
Try to land on that a couple times !! Send video of it I would love to see it
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its not mine buts its cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99PGmXbtpO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99PGmXbtpO0)
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i kept it in the air for 35 mins yesterday only had to land to switch batteries i logged over 2 1/2 hours in this bird
Quit thinking your all great becasue your not. I had one plane and it took me three months and over 3 hours a day to get "good" with it, and that is just in flight. Took me another three months and 3 hours a day before I good with take off and landing, and 8 years on top of that to master landing. You need to get a trainer, a TRAINER. So far what you have picked out is honestly garbage for you right now. I would even have a hard time flying all of the airplanes that you have, and you think you can do it better?
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hey its not my fault i got the fire bird, i don't want it. My grandfather got the plane for me i had no other choice. I don't think i'm the best i'm just showing what i can accomplish, the plane is to easy to fly thus making it useless to me in the real world cause i don't have any other planes with this construction.
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I would seriously take Bosco's advice and find a local flying club near you and seek the assistance of a trainre. While I don't fly motorized RC planes, it took me quite a few months and broken/lost gliders before I even considered myself competent in flying sail/slope gliders and in no way considered that I've "mastered' flying them after doing it 12 years. Though, I will say that I am far better at building them than flying them.
I made the mistake once that after about 5 months of flying slope gliders and thought I was 'great' until I flew a Ki-61 Tony slope glider I built and flew it off Torrey Pines. It wasn't until about 10 minutes after launching it that I realized that I still sucked and ended up losing my plane in the ocean because I didn't read the wind well enough. The cliff face and beaches of Torrey Pines is filled with slope gliders of those that thought they 'mastered' flying them.
ack-ack
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i hate gliders, but the fields closest to me require a AMA membership i can't afford
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I think any field will require the membership (AMA) and maybe more for a club. If your going to go gas(nitro) get a trainer. You can also get a pc trainer that will help.
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Quit thinking your all great becasue your not. I had one plane and it took me three months and over 3 hours a day to get "good" with it, and that is just in flight. Took me another three months and 3 hours a day before I good with take off and landing, and 8 years on top of that to master landing. You need to get a trainer, a TRAINER. So far what you have picked out is honestly garbage for you right now. I would even have a hard time flying all of the airplanes that you have, and you think you can do it better?
cheeze an crackers if ur gonna dedicate this much time, might as well learn to land a real airplane. i bet youll be pretty descent at landing afterr bout 10 hours.....maybe :D
otherwise one of these looks pretty cool
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh34/scullen177/Huckfest%202008/DSC00244a.jpg)
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I have landed a real plane before and flown one. My Great grandfather owns an airstrip in Ohio. He took me up in one of his planes when i was 12 and let me fly it at 9,000 feet. We came in for a landing and he let land the plane.
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Where at in Ohio?
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Can't remember the town, but i swear it happened.
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I fly R/C helis, Keep flying the one that you have and work on your landings. As I have sugguested to you before save the money that you will spend on a new bird and get a good simulator. I have Real Flight 4.5, it comes with a controller and you can use your real controller with it. Plus you can load all the planes and Helis you want for free. You can also put wind and sun in the sim so that you learn to compensate for them. Again save the money that you would spend on a new plane and get the sim, it will save you money in the long run. If you had gotten the sim and flown it you would still have your F6F, most likely.
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i hate gliders, but the fields closest to me require a AMA membership i can't afford
AMA membership for kids 16 and under is $1 a year...
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How much do these smaller and simpler (beginner) birds cost?
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i need peoples opinions on what my next plane should be since i have mastered the fire bird commander2 (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac354/LGflipphone/31NV9VEYBCL_SL500_AA280_.jpg) i still need to work on landings so please advice something that will test my landing skills. Thank you everyone :salute
i highly doubt you've mastered this aircraft. it takes a long time to master a radio control airplane.
one thing i think you'll find, is that when you move to a full control r/c it's going to be an entirely different game.
now my question.......did you go and join the ama, and check out the local(to you) clubs we had pointed you to in the other thread?
you'll find very friendly people in those clubs, and the old guys are beyond happy to help kids that want to learn.
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You might want to consider saving up for the G5 RC simulator Legoman. You might be lucky to find an older version of this on ebay or craigslist. Make sure you get one with the controller if you go that route. Some people have a knack flying RC and some don't. Judging by your posts you don't.
There is nothing wrong with that, it just means you need to go about it the right way and get yourself a good highwing trainer, be it electric or glow, and get someone who is experienced to help you learn the basics. Practice with a simulator such as the G5 I mentioned or practice with a flight sim that lets you control the airplane from the control tower.
This will help you learn the concepts of where to steer your plane when it it coming at you among other things.
What's funny for me is I used to do this kind of drill all the time for enjoyment. I would fly from the tower for hours on MS flight sim.
When I started getting into RC I bought a glow trainer but I never flew it. I got the engine broke in but that was it. It sat in the shed for months then I saw the Parkzone 190 and just had to get it because the idea of electrics sounded cool. I ended up taking the 190 up for the first time ever flying RC and it was a rush.
I was smart enough to read the instruction manual and practice on my G5 sim that came with my glow trainer so my first experience I had some idea what to expect. The only thing I had to adjust to was the speed since I never flew anything before. I was able to trim it and fly around then landed no problem.
I was excited since the plane flew like what you'd expect in a sim or a real airplane lol. Since then I bought 2 more planes and they fly great. Like I said some people have a knack for flying and some don't. I'm not saying I'm special its just I've seen that you already have crashed your f6f and that other plane looks beat to hell. I haven't crashed yet but I know its gonna happen someday.