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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Getback on January 15, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
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What is a good inexpensive Bow to purchase? I use to, back in the day, hunt all the time. I even use to make my own bows and arrows. Oh they were crude to even Indians.
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What is a good inexpensive Bow to purchase? I use to, back in the day, hunt all the time. I even use to make my own bows and arrows. Oh they were crude to even Indians.
"Good" and "inexpensive" can be difficult to combine. What type are you looking for? A "real" bow? Or one of those new-fangled gosh-awful ugly pulley-twangers? Even nice recurves and longbows run $400 plus.
Are you the guy that moved to the Dakotas? I'd think you be able to find a nice piece of Osage Orange out there (also called hedge-apple). Tough to beat that...
Good bows can often be had if you buy used, for $300 or so. I bought an old Golden Eagle that I killed many, many, deer with. It doesn't need to be fancy to poke a hole in their side.
On the newer compounds, I'm not even sure they bend enough to really qualify as a "bow" anymore.
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"Good" and "inexpensive" can be difficult to combine. What type are you looking for? A "real" bow? Or one of those new-fangled gosh-awful ugly pulley-twangers? Even nice recurves and longbows run $400 plus.
Are you the guy that moved to the Dakotas? I'd think you be able to find a nice piece of Osage Orange out there (also called hedge-apple). Tough to beat that...
Good bows can often be had if you buy used, for $300 or so. I bought an old Golden Eagle that I killed many, many, deer with. It doesn't need to be fancy to poke a hole in their side.
On the newer compounds, I'm not even sure they bend enough to really qualify as a "bow" anymore.
Haven't moved to ND yet. Have applied for jobs there though. If I do move there I'm getting back into hunting.
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Great just what we need another Sliver Slinger out there sticking animals. G/L
KAM
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Englishlongbow.jpg/700px-Englishlongbow.jpg)
A REAL bow. No sights. No pulleys. Just you and 150-200lbs of draw.
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PSE. It's not cheap, but it's not expensive. Rock solid quality bow.
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I will second PSE as well. Good company and they build good solid bows. If you start looking at used ones that would be a brand to keep in mind. You do need to find out what your "draw" length is before you settle on a bow. It has to fit your length of draw to be really useful to you. On the flip side, as long as you are not prohibited from owning a firearm, you might actually find a decent rifle to be a bit cheaper to acquire and hunt with.
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Naa who would want to rifle hunt.. If u did this might happen...KAM
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real men use a blackwidow longbow (http://www.blackwidowbows.com/store/Assets/PLBowsphoto.jpg)
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If I still had my old Whitetail II I would sell it to you...best bow I've ever shot...70lbs draw weight - 31inch draw length...with the right gear I'd put it against newer models.
It's just louder than newer bows when you shoot it...
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I have an old PSE graphite strato-flight 2 wheeler, right hand, 64# 30" draw, hardly used that I would let go cheap if you are interested.
shamus
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Buy a used Mathews or Bowtech that your wallet allows. Everything else is junk... A two three year old Mathews Outback shoots like a dream. Most guys will sell their old bows for the new model and so you see good used bows in the $400 range.
I shot a Hoyt this year..
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What is a good inexpensive Bow to purchase? I use to, back in the day, hunt all the time. I even use to make my own bows and arrows. Oh they were crude to even Indians.
i don;t hunt with my bows, but rather i shoot 3d courses, and sometimes join in on indoor leagues when the weather is too cold.
you get what you pay for in archery. in my opinion, there is no such thing as a good inexpensive bow.
i like my hoyts. i have an ultra mag, and an ultra tec. they're both light, quiet, and very accurate...although accuracy is more the archer than the arrow or bow.
i liked my martin too. a lot of guys i know shoot mathews...and they love em.
just try different ones, and be prepared to spend some money. you'll like the sport. :aok
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My Remington .243 bow is probably the best bow I've ever owned...
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Buy a used Mathews or Bowtech that your wallet allows. Everything else is junk... A two three year old Mathews Outback shoots like a dream. Most guys will sell their old bows for the new model and so you see good used bows in the $400 range.
I shot a Hoyt this year..
not to sound like an arse....you actually like bowtech? you'd be the first person i've ever seen say that..........
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longbows are inexpencive and are good for a distance(I'm new to bowhunting thoagh)
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My brother and his friends shoot Bowtech. I shot his new bow quiet well and it was smooth.
Its all apples and oranges when you get into the higher end bows. Been bow hunting for the past 16 years. Each year i average 4 deer and a bakers dozen of dead pigs..
I have a story for yall. This year i confirmed my buddy 2 for 1 bow pig kill. He was shooting the new Mathers and made one pass tru then 3/4 on the other. The arrow fell out 20 yrds from the shot on the second. Never thought that a arrow had the punch to do that.
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A possible source for bare bows
http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Archery.html
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I don't know about the area you're in but we have bowshops in about every other little town around here. And you can pick up a good used bow for 150 or so. And about another 150 for all the other gear you'll need (arrows, tips, sights...). The important thing is to get fitted for the right bow. One you're comfortable with. Believe me you can drop some serious cash on a good bow. A guy i work with has one that costs over a grand :rolleyes:.
Good luck in your hunt. I myself am chomping at the bit for spring turkey season to get here :x
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I don't know about the area you're in but we have bowshops in about every other little town around here. And you can pick up a good used bow for 150 or so. And about another 150 for all the other gear you'll need (arrows, tips, sights...). The important thing is to get fitted for the right bow. One you're comfortable with. Believe me you can drop some serious cash on a good bow. A guy i work with has one that costs over a grand :rolleyes:.
Good luck in your hunt. I myself am chomping at the bit for spring turkey season to get here :x
these used cost me about $1,000 for the two of them. i didn't buy them both at the same time though.
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/PHOT0008.jpg)
had i bought either of them new, the price would be at least doubled. the string by itself on the top bow is $150. the sights on them are around $100 to 150 or so...i forget exactly how much. the doinker on the bottom bow was cheap..i think only around 25 or 50....the one on the top bow was(i think) over 100.
if you're gonna use a compound bow, be prepared to be surprised.
it is well worth the money you'll spend though. :aok
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real men use a blackwidow longbow (http://www.blackwidowbows.com/store/Assets/PLBowsphoto.jpg)
Those aren't longbows, but rather a type of flatbow. A true longbow isn't just determined by its length. It has little or no recurve at the ends and has a circular or D-shaped cross-section. The bows in your pic are more of a flattened rectangular. Also, a true longbow wouldn't have that integrated arrow rest.
CAP1,
You're a dirty cheater. :P
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Those aren't longbows, but rather a type of flatbow. A true longbow isn't just determined by its length. It has little or no recurve at the ends and has a circular or D-shaped cross-section. The bows in your pic are more of a flattened rectangular. Also, a true longbow wouldn't have that integrated arrow rest.
CAP1,
You're a dirty cheater. :P
it's not cheating...it's improvising. :neener: :D
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Only bow I use...
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:D
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Here's my latest attempt. Primitive in "flavor", but not in fact. I'm still in the learning stage. Each attempt is an experiment, taking me closer to my goal, which is to harvest a deer with equipment I make from materials I find on my own. I want to take as much modern technology as possible out of the picture.
This bow is actually laminated from birch and hickory. Birch ain't so hot for a bow, but it's what I had. Hickory is nice, but has a tendency to follow the string. I have some ash seasoning for a self-bow. I hid the hickory lamination by backing the bow with rattlesnake skins, and the bow tips are wrapped with buffalo sinew. Plains style quiver, but not a plains style bow. The lamination adds strength/durability, and somewhat reduces the tendency to follow the string. It's a "temporary" bow, as all of mine are. They all break eventually. Some take longer than others is all. A wooden bow is about 90% broken at full draw...
Cedar arrows, my next ones will be dogwood. Self-wood nocks, my own self-prepared turkey feather fletches, glued on with self-made hide glue and wrapped with buffalo sinew as well. Two of these have practice points on, one has a not-yet-sharpened steel point. Four of my more recently knapped stone points as well. I want to use those for hunting, but I'm not to that point yet. I'm not up to par with your average neanderthal yet when it comes to knapping. One point is chert, one obsidian, and two are from glass (which I use as a cheap practice material).
I started with traditional archery equipment, "progressed" to modern compounds (and teaching archery to kids), and finally "regressed" back to traditional. The modern stuff was just a passing fad for me. That's too much high-tech modern tech for me to stay interested in. Actually, most of my hunting is done with birds now, apart from some freezer-filling expeditions each fall/winter.
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Here's my latest attempt. Primitive in "flavor", but not in fact. I'm still in the learning stage. Each attempt is an experiment, taking me closer to my goal, which is to harvest a deer with equipment I make from materials I find on my own. I want to take as much modern technology as possible out of the picture.
This bow is actually laminated from birch and hickory. Birch ain't so hot for a bow, but it's what I had. Hickory is nice, but has a tendency to follow the string. I have some ash seasoning for a self-bow. I hid the hickory lamination by backing the bow with rattlesnake skins, and the bow tips are wrapped with buffalo sinew. Plains style quiver, but not a plains style bow. The lamination adds strength/durability, and somewhat reduces the tendency to follow the string. It's a "temporary bow, as all of mine are. A wooden bow is about 90% broken at full draw...
Cedar arrows, my next ones will be dogwood. Self-wood nocks, my own self-prepared turkey feather fletches, glued on with self-made hide glue and wrapped with buffalo sinew as well. Two of these have practice points on, one has a not-yet-sharpened steel point. Four of my more recently knapped stone points as well. I want to use those for hunting, but I'm not to that point yet. I'm not up to par with your average neanderthal yet when it comes to knapping. One point is chert, one obsidian, and two are from glass (which I use as a cheap practice material).
I started with traditional archery equipment, "progressed" to modern compounds (and teaching archery to kids), and finally "regressed" back to traditional. The modern stuff was just a passing fad for me. That's too much high-tech modern tech for me to stay interested in. Actually, most of my hunting is done with birds now, apart from some freezer-filling expeditions each fall/winter.
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/DSC_0004.jpg)
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I hunt with a Mathews mainly, but on really bad nasty days, i take my old Xi out in the woods. Shes about 6yrs old, but still shoots like a charm.
BTW Mntmn that is a gorgeous bow, can wait to see pics of the ash one.
Cap, if you ever get up in the Chalfont area ( about 45mins N of Phila ) Stop in Target World, its a big indoor range and gunshop, I worked there for years ( to support my IPSC and IDPA "habit" ) and know the owner well. Upstairs in the gunshop ( above the indoor range ) they have an indoor video archery range. Its basically shooting at a movie screen, and you can hunt anything your heart desires from chipmunks to deer to cape buffalo and elephants. The arrow tips are actually 75, 100 or 125 gr. rounded tips that dont puncture the screen. Oh and Nice setup you have there sir
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Mbailey
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I hunt with a Mathews mainly, but on really bad nasty days, i take my old Xi out in the woods. Shes about 6yrs old, but still shoots like a charm.
BTW Mntmn that is a gorgeous bow, can wait to see pics of the ash one.
Cap, if you ever get up in the Chalfont area ( about 45mins N of Phila ) Stop in Target World, its a big indoor range and gunshop, I worked there for years and know the owner well. Upstairs in the gunshop ( above the indoor range ) they have an indoor video archery range (basically its shooting at a movie screen, and you can hunt anything your heart desires ) from chipmunks to deer to cape buffalo and elephants. Nice setup you have there sir
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Mbailey
is that the one where you put the mushroom tips on the arrows, and there's a net just in front of the screen?
they have one like that at the sportsmans center in burlington nj too. it's a friggin blast.
and thanks for the compliments on the bows........i shot a martin maverick to begin with...it was heavy, but there was just SOMETHING that i liked about it. i don't know what it was, but it was something.
i tried another shooters hoyt, and the martin was on ebay the next day.
at the indoor league i was shooting in croyden, it seemed that most shot matthews, and those that didn't had hoyts.
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This is my LARPing bow. Full-length self longbow. American Oak, I believe, with a linen backing. I'd LOVE a real yew bow but I don't have NEAR that much money. It's at a slight angle to fit the full length on the camera, don't have enough room in my apartment to get a full-length shot. :D
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is that the one where you put the mushroom tips on the arrows, and there's a net just in front of the screen?
Yep thats it, accept the one at my shop has a screen that you can shoot at directly ( no nets ) and the sensors in the screen will tell you exactly where you hit on the animal. ie the animal and shot freezes and a red X shows you where on the animal you hit. The best "hunt" ive ever had there was shooting at chipmunks. There I was with 3 grown adults all giggling like schoolgirls everytime we would hit one, it was a blast. It truly is amazing, real world footage of the animal, like your shooting at a movie.
Ive been kicking around getting a new release, any suggestions?
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Yep thats it, accept the one at my shop has a screen that you can shoot at directly ( no nets ) and the sensors in the screen will tell you exactly where you hit on the animal. ie the animal and shot freezes and a red X shows you where on the animal you hit. The best "hunt" ive ever had there was shooting at chipmunks. There I was with 3 grown adults all giggling like schoolgirls everytime we would hit one, it was a blast. It truly is amazing, real world footage of the animal, like your shooting at a movie.
Ive been kicking around getting a new release, any suggestions?
i use a wrist release......a fairly inexpensive one....i think it only cost me somethign like $50 or so. i have a truball(i think) but i couldn't get used to it. it's a beautiful release, i'm just more comfortable with the wrist release.
i'll post a pic of them on monday...the truball is at work on my desk...the wrist release is in my case with my bow.
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For the average shooter, a compound bow that costs more than $400-$500 new is a complete waste of money. And the best deals are found this time of year, in pawn shops. I've seen guys pick up $800 rigs, figuring all the attachments, for $300.
Further, if you're going to hunt, you'll notice the guys who are actually killing deer, in the woods, not on guided hunts on television, are shooting those same $400 to $500 bows.
A deer doesn't know you didn't pay $1000 :rofl for your bow when you shoot him, just like a fish doesn't know you don't have a $300 rod and reel and aren't sitting in a $50K 90MPH bass boat.
I used to work for the wildlife agency. I can tell you, the guys killing deer are not shooting $1000 bows, $1200 rifles, and $800 muzzle loaders. Just like the guys catching fish aren't using $300 rods and reels from $50K boats.
Mega dollar equipment does not make you a good outdoorsman, hunter, or fisherman. It just plain doesn't.
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Nope, it just makes you look funnier if you're not :rofl
-Penguin
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For the average shooter, a compound bow that costs more than $400-$500 new is a complete waste of money. And the best deals are found this time of year, in pawn shops. I've seen guys pick up $800 rigs, figuring all the attachments, for $300.
Further, if you're going to hunt, you'll notice the guys who are actually killing deer, in the woods, not on guided hunts on television, are shooting those same $400 to $500 bows.
A deer doesn't know you didn't pay $1000 :rofl for your bow when you shoot him, just like a fish doesn't know you don't have a $300 rod and reel and aren't sitting in a $50K 90MPH bass boat.
I used to work for the wildlife agency. I can tell you, the guys killing deer are not shooting $1000 bows, $1200 rifles, and $800 muzzle loaders. Just like the guys catching fish aren't using $300 rods and reels from $50K boats.
Mega dollar equipment does not make you a good outdoorsman, hunter, or fisherman. It just plain doesn't.
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For the average shooter, a compound bow that costs more than $400-$500 new is a complete waste of money. And the best deals are found this time of year, in pawn shops. I've seen guys pick up $800 rigs, figuring all the attachments, for $300.
Further, if you're going to hunt, you'll notice the guys who are actually killing deer, in the woods, not on guided hunts on television, are shooting those same $400 to $500 bows.
A deer doesn't know you didn't pay $1000 :rofl for your bow when you shoot him, just like a fish doesn't know you don't have a $300 rod and reel and aren't sitting in a $50K 90MPH bass boat.
I used to work for the wildlife agency. I can tell you, the guys killing deer are not shooting $1000 bows, $1200 rifles, and $800 muzzle loaders. Just like the guys catching fish aren't using $300 rods and reels from $50K boats.
Mega dollar equipment does not make you a good outdoorsman, hunter, or fisherman. It just plain doesn't.
QFFT Brother!
I only have mossy oak camo shirts and pants from Academy because it was A) CHEAP (off season) and B) My FREE US Army Woodland Camo supplies and possible suppliers retired about 12 years ago. Kinda makes it hard to get woodland camo patterns now without breaking the bank or finding some junky stuff at the local milsurplus store.
I will never forget the guys going out in the woods in my dads old hunting club wrapped up in Browning, Weatherby, Realtree etc... and only killing 1-2 deer a year. Then we would go out in jeans, short sleeve camo t-shirts or old OD Green Army cold weather jackets and each one of the family (me, my dad, my granddad and my uncle) would come back with 1 each and we (the whole club) were all hunting in the same areas, every day, every season.
Now I have a 4-5 year old PSE that I use but would like to get one of the new Matthews Solocams and my dad shoots an older Hoyt. I don't get a chance to use my bow that much now but it has been very good to me.
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There's nothing wrong with the high end bows. But they absolutely will not make a new shooter instantly successful. What they'll do is make him instantly broke. Spend $800+ on just a bow, and then you don't have money for a good rest, a good sight, a good release, a good quiver, a dozen or more good arrows, or field points, broadheads, and targets. Buy a $400-$500 PSE package, and you have a rock solid bow you can start with, and money left to buy plenty of arrows, field points, and targets. To kill a deer within 40 yards or so, you don't need a $1K bow. But you do need to be able to accurately estimate distance, and shoot a 4" or so 5 shot group consistently. It requires practice, lots of practice, and then lots more practice.
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QFFT Brother!
I only have mossy oak camo shirts and pants from Academy because it was A) CHEAP (off season) and B) My FREE US Army Woodland Camo supplies and possible suppliers retired about 12 years ago. Kinda makes it hard to get woodland camo patterns now without breaking the bank or finding some junky stuff at the local milsurplus store.
I will never forget the guys going out in the woods in my dads old hunting club wrapped up in Browning, Weatherby, Realtree etc... and only killing 1-2 deer a year. Then we would go out in jeans, short sleeve camo t-shirts or old OD Green Army cold weather jackets and each one of the family (me, my dad, my granddad and my uncle) would come back with 1 each and we (the whole club) were all hunting in the same areas, every day, every season.
Now I have a 4-5 year old PSE that I use but would like to get one of the new Matthews Solocams and my dad shoots an older Hoyt. I don't get a chance to use my bow that much now but it has been very good to me.
woodland camo can be had pretty cheap at pretty much any army/navy store. i get most of mine for free, being in CAP.
i had a pse for a bit....i forget what model it was. it was older, and shot nice.....i just wasn't comfortable with the feel of it though. it didn't feel like it "fit" me right....if that makes any sense?
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There's nothing wrong with the high end bows. But they absolutely will not make a new shooter instantly successful. What they'll do is make him instantly broke. Spend $800+ on just a bow, and then you don't have money for a good rest, a good sight, a good release, a good quiver, a dozen or more good arrows, or field points, broadheads, and targets. Buy a $400-$500 PSE package, and you have a rock solid bow you can start with, and money left to buy plenty of arrows, field points, and targets. To kill a deer within 40 yards or so, you don't need a $1K bow. But you do need to be able to accurately estimate distance, and shoot a 4" or so 5 shot group consistently. It requires practice, lots of practice, and then lots more practice.
if you go back, and look at the pic i posted of my bows......i paid $300 for the camo one.....as it's shown in the picture. i got lucky though. it had been dropped off for some work, and the person that dropped it, seemed to dissappear. he stopped returning calls to the shop, and was just pretty much totally unreachable.
so understandably, they sold it to get their money back. i also shoot lefty, which makes it harder for me to find nice used bows.
the other bow, cost me $450 as it's shown in the picture. you can look at them, and very easily tell, that had i bought them new, threy've each have run clost to 1k if not more. i can't afford that much.
now, the really funny thing is this. the indoor league i was shooting in, i was using first the camo bow, then i switched to the flamed one. with either one, i was shooting within 10 points of the top scorers. most used matthews, they had the 4' long balance thingies on em, the 4X scopes, fancy releases, etc. and here i was with a basic hunting bow, runnin with them.
when my friends and i would do the outdoor 3d shoots, they all had better equipment than me....but the same thing. within 10 to 20 points. we eventually stopped scoring on them....it was more fun to shoot those super dangerous foam animals.
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I shoot left handed as well. It isn't easy for me to find a bow either. I own two PSE bows. A Phaser and a Fireflight.
I understand you not getting the "feel" you want with a PSE. Feel is a subjective thing. "Feel" with a bow is no different than it is with a long gun or a handgun.
When bringing people in to bow hunting, I find the most success comes with a good solid basic affordable rig, where the new shooter can afford to get the accessories he needs, along with enough supplies, and be able to afford to change some of the accessories (because often what feels right at first, doesn't always work). They don't seem to have problems with overly high expectations, or excessive pressure that comes from spending a lot.
People that spend a lot tend to depend too much on their equipment, and expect to shoot well because they spent a lot of money. And of course, other people see the high dollar rigs and expect super results. When the new shooter isn't an instant success, he's mad because he "spent a lot of money and still can't shoot like Robin Hood" and because "other people are snickering because I can't "shaft" arrows with this expensive rig".
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Pawn shop, now there's an idea.
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Pawn shop, now there's an idea.
Unless you know what you are looking at stay away from pawn shops. The bow could have cracked limbs, bad cams or is just a piece of junk and without the knowledge you could be buying a lemon. My advice goes along with others here that you don't need a $1K plus bow to hunt with. Attend a local 3D shoot and talk to the shooters. Like others has said to be a good bow hunter takes practice practice and more practice. It's not like rifle hunting where you can take out your gun before season and shoot it a few times.
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It's not like rifle hunting where you can take out your gun before season and shoot it a few times.
There are bow hunters and rifle hunters that do this. It not limited to rifle hunters. I personal shoot year around. Thats why i hit my elk on dead runs 75 yards in the trees without wounding them. I wish they could stop the behavior of those who don't keep the practice up.
Bow and rifle hunters wound way to many animals out there. I personally have killed 4 different elk that were wounded by other hunters. I found a Broad head in beaded in the upper region of the shoulder of a bull i took 3 years ago, it must have been there from the previous season.
KAM
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It's not like rifle hunting where you can take out your gun before season and shoot it a few times.
You make it sound as if any idiot can pick up a rifle and shoot it accurately...
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You make it sound as if any idiot can pick up a rifle and shoot it accurately...
Well, I've actually SEEN that, and more than once...
FACT- An idiot can pick up a rifle and shoot it accurately.
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I cheated ,Killed this one today with my single shot rifle and a one eye dog ..
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You make it sound as if any idiot can pick up a rifle and shoot it accurately...
Not what I meant but yes, any idiot can shoot a rifle accurately. My point was that more skill is required for a bow hunter and to hone and keep that skill takes practice. I've hunted with a bow, black powder, and rifle and the most difficult was with the bow.
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...a good sight...
What do you need a SIGHT for? Use the arrow.
If you're going to shoot a bow, SHOOT the bow. Don't rely on cheap mechanical tricks.
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What do you need a SIGHT for? Use the arrow.
If you're going to shoot a bow, SHOOT the bow. Don't rely on cheap mechanical tricks.
when i was a kid, i used to have one of those cheap k-mart special fiberglass bows. i was pretty good with it.
wheni got back into archery a few years ago, i was kinda intrigued by the compound bows. the speed of the arrow, the ability to hold, due to drop off, and the sights.
even with sights, you still need skill. it's definitly harder to shoot a longbow without sights...although i've seen guys that have sights built into the bow itself........
but what it comes down to, is that it's just a different skillset.
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I would not buy a compound bow from a pawn shop unless they were willing to take it back with a full 100% refund if something were to go wrong within a week or so...or if they would consent to letting me shoot it and have the thing checked out by a bow shop for any problems.
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I would not buy a compound bow from a pawn shop unless they were willing to take it back with a full 100% refund if something were to go wrong within a week or so...or if they would consent to letting me shoot it and have the thing checked out by a bow shop for any problems.
lots of energy stored in those limbs when that bos'w drawn.
i'd not hesitate to buy used......both of my bows are.......but i think i'd only be willing to do so from a well respected sporting goods or archery supplier.
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I got a Horton crossbow form thesportsmanguild a few year's ago for around $250.00 and love it . Never go back to my old bow . The only thing that I don't like is with my old bow I can shot 4 arrow's before I could shoot 2 with the crossbow .
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I got a Horton crossbow form thesportsmanguild a few year's ago for around $250.00 and love it . Never go back to my old bow . The only thing that I don't like is with my old bow I can shot 4 arrow's before I could shoot 2 with the crossbow .
and crossbows are loud as hell....... :D
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Modern crossbows are not for hunting. You may as well be using a rifle in my opinion.
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What do you need a SIGHT for? Use the arrow.
If you're going to shoot a bow, SHOOT the bow. Don't rely on cheap mechanical tricks.
If you shoot that well, then fine. A sight on a hunting bow is not a cheap mechanical trick anymore than it is on a firearm. And my ego isn't so big and so in need of stroking that I need to prove myself as an instinct shooter. I understand my limitations, imposed on me by my age, and the time I get to devote to practice. I'm only human, and my bow practice gets a limited amount of my time. I work, I race, I hunt, I fish. I never claimed to be Byron Ferguson, I'm a decent shot with a properly rigged average compound bow. So, I'll keep using my sights, since I owe it to the prey to make a quick clean kill with an accurate shot.
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so, nobody hunts with a spear anymore?
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so, nobody hunts with a spear anymore?
I know of one guy that doe's . That man on the Savage Wild Show ...
CAP1 , your are right about them being loud but you only get one shot most of the time anyway ..It's not as loud as my 270 ..My choice for making a true accurate kill .
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Javelins, and I don't mean the missile.
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Javelins, and I don't mean the missile.
isn't it a little unfair to use a car to hunt? :noid
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pfft. I put a big lance to the front end of my Vespa and I JOUST my prey down.
rest of you shooting stuff... bunch of pssies... :neener:
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pfft. I put a big lance to the front end of my Vespa and I JOUST my prey down.
rest of you shooting stuff... bunch of pssies... :neener:
:rofl :rofl
i'm still waitin to see if anyone gets it. :noid :neener:
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so, nobody hunts with a spear anymore?
I know several people down here in Alabama that hunt with an Atlatl; let me tell you something those dudes are friggin weird also.
FYI ---> http://www.hollowtop.com/atlatlbob.htm
There is even a push that I am all for to allow Primitive weapons hunting to extend into February down here. That would only allow TRUE blackpowder/muzzel loader weapons (not pistols of any type), bows and spear/atlatl. Crossbows would only be allowed by special permit for permanently disabled hunters.
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I know several people down here in Alabama that hunt with an Atlatl; let me tell you something those dudes are friggin weird also.
FYI ---> http://www.hollowtop.com/atlatlbob.htm
There is even a push that I am all for to allow Primitive weapons hunting to extend into February down here. That would only allow TRUE blackpowder/muzzel loader weapons (not pistols of any type), bows and spear/atlatl. Crossbows would only be allowed by special permit for permanently disabled hunters.
Primitive weapons? Won't the compound shooters feel left out?
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In Mississippi the state considers a 45-70 a Primitive weapon . Get real lol ..