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Title: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Widewing on January 18, 2010, 09:59:09 PM
Very interesting match-up.

Jets: #1 rated defense in NFL
Jets: #1 rated rushing team in NFL
Jets: #8 rated rushing defense in NFL
Jets: #31 rated passing team in NFL
Jets: #20 rated offensive team in NFL

Colts: #18 rated defense in NFL
Colts; #32 rated rushing team in NFL
Colts: #24 rated in rushing defense in NFL
Colts: #2 rated passing team in NFL
Colts: #9 rated offensive team in NFL

Intangibles:
Huge pressure on Colts.
Jets are not supposed to be in Championship game. No pressure at all.
Colts Very confident.
Jets very confident with huge chip on their shoulder.
Payton Manning.
Mark Sanchez.
Injuries.
Penalties.

Colts will not do as well as Chargers defending against the ground game. Jet offensive line will push Colt defensive line around. Colts have no rushing game, almost total dependence on passing, but they have the one of the best passing games in the league. Jets have best pass defense in league. Colts have great pass rush, however, this may be neutralized by Jets rushing game (linebackers will have to play back more). Sanchez has made very few mistakes over past 5 games. Jets have much better field goal kicker (statistically).

Turnovers prediction: Jets 1, Colts 3.

Final score: Jets 20 Colts 17 on Jay Feely field goal in overtime.


Of course, I could be utterly and completely wrong!


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: warphoenix on January 18, 2010, 10:07:06 PM
great a FOOLball fan
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Masherbrum on January 18, 2010, 10:15:13 PM
Colts.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: crazyivan on January 18, 2010, 10:20:39 PM
Very interesting match-up.


Of course, I could be utterly and completely wrong!
   :aok

 Jets, Rookie QB
 
 Colts, Freeney, Mathis both healthy.

Saying Feely is a better kicker than Stover is just well :rolleyes:

24- 10 Colts
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Widewing on January 18, 2010, 10:42:31 PM
   :aok

 Jets, Rookie QB
 
 Colts, Freeney, Mathis both healthy.

Saying Feely is a better kicker than Stover is just well :rolleyes:

24- 10 Colts

Feely's stats say otherwise, especially beyond 40 yards. Stover made only 11 attempts all season, most short range. He made 9 of the 11. Feely is one of best "pressure" kickers in the league. Almost never misses on important kicks. Proved to be an okay punter too when he had to step in for Weatherford against the Bengals. Dropped two inside the 20 yard line and one inside the 10. This year, Feely has hit from 53 yards. Stover missed his one attempt at 51 yards.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: BoilerDown on January 19, 2010, 12:46:47 AM
The Colts have been keeping a lot in reserve to be able to make a strong run in the playoffs, and they have the home dome advantage.  The Jets' freshman QB is due to make some mistakes as well.

Colts 34 - Jets 17


I think the Saints - Vikings matchup is far more intriguing, and should be a much closer game.  Naturally I'm rooting for Drew Brees and the Saints.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: MORAY37 on January 19, 2010, 12:49:53 AM
Jets.  21-17

Defense and rushing win championships.

Although, playing the game in a dome is a plus for the colts.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Rino on January 19, 2010, 02:35:06 AM
great a FOOLball fan

     People who live in glass mansions shouldn't throw stones, noob.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: fudgums on January 19, 2010, 04:06:33 AM
Seriously?

Jets will lose by 2 touchdowns. Why? Because the Colts had to give up their perfect season to them. Jets didn't take it away. Colts had to listen on how the "quit" and "gave up".

Colts 35- Jets 14
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Spikes on January 19, 2010, 06:02:05 AM
Saints 28-24
Oh wait, wrong game.

Umm....as much as I love taking underdogs, I don't think this'll happen. Colts 24-21
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: boxboy28 on January 19, 2010, 10:40:21 AM
JETS all the way baby! :x
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Stoney on January 19, 2010, 11:12:16 AM
If the Jets only score 20-21 points, they lose.  I'll take Peyton and the boys:  37-20.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: BMathis on January 19, 2010, 11:38:20 AM
Hoping the Jets rip those Colts up...  They've got it coming after the sand bagged effort they put up against the Jets earlier this season (that would have out my Texans in the Playoffs!)

J-E-T... Aww I really don't care  :(
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: druski85 on January 19, 2010, 11:53:54 AM
Ditka by a late field goal. 

As for this game, I'm gonna say Colts take it, 28-17. 
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Shuffler on January 19, 2010, 01:26:31 PM
Jets who.... colts who... bleh
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Bosco123 on January 19, 2010, 02:11:04 PM
Colts/Vikings, Superbowl.

Payton Manning V. Brett Farve....oh boy
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Motherland on January 19, 2010, 02:13:33 PM
Colts/Vikings, Superbowl.

Payton Manning V. Brett Farve....oh boy
That's what I'm looking for. :aok
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: SuBWaYCH on January 19, 2010, 02:20:08 PM
Defense:
They are going to have to generate turnovers off of Peyton Manning, which is very well possible considering the Colts rushing game is non-existant for the most part. Revis will also have to keep the Colt wide receiver core at bay while linebackers will be keeping the pressure on manning the entire game through blitz's etc. If the Jets are going to win, they are going to have to do it on defense, and then cushion it on offense

Offense:
Greene and Jones will be used on tons of plays in this game, and if the Jets can play the ball strategically with good mix of short pass/rushing, they will be extremely effective against the colts defense, possibly resulting in 2 touchdowns or so

Special Teams:
Jets need to get better starting position with the ball on kickoffs, say past there own 30 yard line or so. Jets need to insure that there are no kickoff return touchdowns as well.

In the end:
Jets 27
Colts 21
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: SEraider on January 19, 2010, 02:56:58 PM
This reminds me of Pittsburgh 5 seasons ago.  All games on the road, great defense, solid offense, Superbowl win.  NFC is too tough this season though.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: GrnEagle Jr on January 19, 2010, 03:12:14 PM
I love the Jets so i'm going with the Jets 24-21 and but the Saints Vs. the Vikings is gonna be a tough matchup i predict Jets vs. Vikings for the superbowl with the winner being Vikings the vikings and saints are too good i think for the jets but my money is always on the Jets

Go Jets
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/22292/jets_flightcrew_meredith.jpg)
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Halo on January 19, 2010, 03:22:13 PM
Very good analysis, Widewing. Hard to dispute any of that.

Nevertheless, I really really really want to see a Minnesota-Indianapolis Super Bowl.

The remaining games might be surprisingly similar:

Colts 24, Jets 21
Vikings 24, Saints 21

Vikings 24, Colts 21


Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Kuhn on January 19, 2010, 03:45:26 PM
Vikings win their first Superbowl.             :D
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Ripsnort on January 19, 2010, 04:09:44 PM
Colts. Peyton will find his match ups he likes.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: gyrene81 on January 19, 2010, 04:31:59 PM
Jets...that way the Saints will have a chance to win the stupidbowl.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: fudgums on January 19, 2010, 05:30:06 PM
Do you people realize that if the Colts don't pull there starters, the Jets don't even make the playoffs. Colts were beating the Jets, and were going to win the game.

Come on man
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Widewing on January 19, 2010, 06:02:47 PM
Do you people realize that if the Colts don't pull there starters, the Jets don't even make the playoffs. Colts were beating the Jets, and were going to win the game.

Come on man

Jets played stellar football in December and January.

Some guys are predicting a high scoring Colt effort. I don't think that will happen. The Jets rarely give up more than 20 points. Manning will be passing most of the time. That means interceptions. Manning was prone to interceptions (averaging 1 per game, and he didn't play much the last two games). The Jet pass rush has been formidable. When Manning is forced to scramble, his stats tank quickly. The Jets must dominate the line of scrimmage. If they do, the linebackers will be on Peyton like the plague.

In playoff games, defense has dominated offense. Mistakes end seasons. If the Jets can apply the pressure they need to, this will be a close game down to the wire. Defense wins in overtime.

This will not be a blowout.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: trax1 on January 19, 2010, 06:58:51 PM
I really don't think the Jets have a chance in this game, Sanchez just can't match up to Payton, although it would be funny if the Jets do win considering that the Colts could have knocked them out in week 16.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: potsNpans on January 19, 2010, 08:08:26 PM
When your a Jet your a Jet all the way, from your first cigarette to your last dieing day. 27 Jets- 13 Colts. Wonder if ol' Joe will be watching?
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 19, 2010, 08:51:53 PM
I think the Jets stand a legitimate chance in this matchup. Each team is one dimensional on offense.
Yes manning is by far the better QB. but the Colts also have one of the leagues worst rushing offences (32nd rushing)

While Jets have a top 10 rushing defence (8th) And ranked #1 against the pass and #1 in points allowed

Colts are also in the bottom 3rd in rushing defence (24th)
while the Jets are #1 rushing

If you look at the Jets record. Of their 7 losses they were in all but two of them (N.E. and N.O) And could just as easily have won the other 5. Considering  of those 5 losses they lost by  5 points or less.

In a hypothetical you can say they lost against the Colts the first time and to NE and NO but won the rest. Your still looking at a 12-3 football team.

Point is. The Jets arent really all that far away from being a really good team. It looks more of a matter of turning the corner and winning those close games. (San Diego)


This game I think may be closer then people think it will. Manning will have to have a great game. Because the running game isnt much of a threat. While Sanchez only has to not turn the ball over and make enough plays to keep the defense honest and occasionally move the chains.

Yes Manning can score alot of points. But to do that the offense has to be on the feild.  Something which the Colt defense may have problems providing if the Jets can get their ground game going. And dont underestimate Sanchez. This kid is gonna be a good one. If the Colts are forced to dedicate more men to the box to defend against the run. He can put it down field accurately


Then there is the intangables. The Jets are under no pressure. They cant loose even if they loose the game. Nobody expected them to be here. So they can afford to play balls to the wall and let the chips fly where they may

Colts have experience.

In the end though I think Colts win in a close one. 24-21

but the time of posession will be lobsided in the Jets favor

Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: FiLtH on January 19, 2010, 08:55:34 PM
 Go Jets!



Ya..and Im a Pats fan!
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: BoilerDown on January 19, 2010, 09:45:04 PM
Most of you are drastically underestimating the home dome advantage that the Colts and Saints will enjoy.  The Colts' advantage being larger in that they've had a bye week, and the Jets did not.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: gusman on January 20, 2010, 09:05:14 AM
Peyton Manning scares me but J-E-T-S! JETS! JETS! JETS!

Cheers,
gus
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: SuBWaYCH on January 20, 2010, 08:10:23 PM
Most of you are drastically underestimating the home dome advantage that the Colts and Saints will enjoy.  The Colts' advantage being larger in that they've had a bye week, and the Jets did not.


San Diego did to, and they had home field advantage as well, and look what the jets did there.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Getback on January 21, 2010, 04:47:59 AM
Go Jets!



Ya..and Im a Pats fan!

I'm crushed!

I heard the Pats losing influenced the outcome of a recent event. :)
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Spikes on January 21, 2010, 06:09:59 AM
Most of you are drastically underestimating the home dome advantage that the Colts and Saints will enjoy.  The Colts' advantage being larger in that they've had a bye week, and the Jets did not.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=4841753&sportCat=nfl
Here's a good (and funny) article on the Saints Vikes game.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 21, 2010, 10:03:54 AM
Heard a good point last night on TV

Can you imagine the uproar if the colts manage to loose to the Jets.
Considering that the colts throwing the first matchup forgoing the chance at the perfect season in favor of resting their starters is pretty much what put the Jets in the playoffs in the first place?
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: jd on January 21, 2010, 10:52:48 AM
Mannings a choke artist. That being said, how can you go against the Colts. Jets have pulled off one too many magic tricks this season. :bolt:

Colts: 34-Jets:17

<S>MajChaos
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: LLogann on January 21, 2010, 12:56:55 PM
Minnesota by 10............
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Getback on January 21, 2010, 03:24:30 PM
Minnesota by 10............


I foresee a demotion in the ranks of Rolling Thunder!  :lol
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: FiLtH on January 23, 2010, 08:53:34 PM
I'm crushed!

I heard the Pats losing influenced the outcome of a recent event. :)

    Sorry bud...I just dont like the Mannings. I love to see them "crushed" lol
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Getback on January 23, 2010, 09:39:58 PM
As long as the Saints don't get caught with their "Pants on the Ground" they should be okay. Seems to be Favre's favorite song these days.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Getback on January 24, 2010, 09:56:31 AM
Peyton Manning scares me but J-E-T-S! JETS! JETS! JETS!

Cheers,
gus

But it's my B'day Gus and I live in Indy.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Widewing on January 24, 2010, 03:44:47 PM
17 to 13 Jets at halftime...

Sanchez has passed for two TDs. Peyton one.

Had the Jets blitzed less on the final Colt drive of the half, I don't think Peyton gets anyone open.

Like I said, this will not be a blow out. Defense will determine the outcome, not so much offense.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: trax1 on January 24, 2010, 04:14:43 PM
Colts are gonna win baby, Woot!!!
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Spikes on January 24, 2010, 04:16:06 PM
Colts found out the Jets defense now.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Masherbrum on January 24, 2010, 04:44:07 PM
The Jets are being exploited as frauds as I type this.  The frustration is already being shown in a facemask penalty.  The Jets were/are overrated.  There is a reason Peyton won a 4th MVP. As for Revas, he's a non-factor in this game.  The Colts are rushing just as good as the Jets.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Bosco123 on January 24, 2010, 04:48:53 PM
The Jets are being exploited as frauds as I type this.  The frustration is already being shown in a facemask penalty.  The Jets were/are overrated.  There is a reason Peyton won a 4th MVP. As for Revas, he's a non-factor in this game.  The Colts are rushing just as good as the Jets.
Edit that Colts are rushing BETTER than the Jets.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: DaCoon on January 24, 2010, 04:57:20 PM
Colts by 13 with 2:29 left. Another Superbowl appearance?
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: fudgums on January 24, 2010, 05:00:23 PM


Jets will lose by 2 touchdowns.



:D

Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Spikes on January 24, 2010, 05:01:35 PM


:D


You're 1 point off, fyi. ;)
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Bosco123 on January 24, 2010, 05:05:20 PM
Jets turned it over with about 1:50 left, Jets have no timeouts. This game is over.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: DaCoon on January 24, 2010, 05:06:31 PM
Jets turned it over with about 1:50 left, Jets have no timeouts. This game is over.
No doubt
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: fudgums on January 24, 2010, 05:09:01 PM
You're 1 point off, fyi. ;)

2 tds= 12 points not counting extra points  :D  :lol
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Bosco123 on January 24, 2010, 05:09:43 PM
Game over Indianapolis 30 Jets 17

WTG COLTS!!!
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Spikes on January 24, 2010, 05:10:02 PM
2 tds= 12 points not counting extra points  :D  :lol
Well then your still off by 1 point either way ;)
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: fudgums on January 24, 2010, 05:10:43 PM
Well then your still off by 1 point either way ;)

either way you look at it, I was right
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Getback on January 24, 2010, 05:11:21 PM
Colts and ?
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: SIK1 on January 24, 2010, 05:12:20 PM
It was a great game. The Jets made a valiant effort, they were just out played by a better team.

WTG Colts!!!!
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: trax1 on January 24, 2010, 05:13:55 PM
Colts and ?
I'm gonna say the Vikings. :aok

I put $50 down on them at +4.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: fudgums on January 24, 2010, 05:14:27 PM
Colts and ?

I think vikes but I hope saints because I dont want to see the vikings ugly a** jerseys again this year.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: SuBWaYCH on January 24, 2010, 05:15:32 PM
It was a great game. The Jets made a valiant effort, they were just out played by a better team.

WTG Colts!!!!

qft, I will be rooting for the colts in the superbowl as I thoroughly enjoyed watching that game. Jets were not even supposed to be in the playoffs so getting to the AFC championship game with a rookie quarterback is pretty good. I look to see them be a serious threat next season.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Getback on January 24, 2010, 05:18:19 PM
qft, I will be rooting for the colts in the superbowl as I thoroughly enjoyed watching that game. Jets were not even supposed to be in the playoffs so getting to the AFC championship game with a rookie quarterback is pretty good. I look to see them be a serious threat next season.

NY beat a super tough team in the Chargers. I thought they were on a roll.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Spikes on January 24, 2010, 05:23:15 PM
I am praying that Brees can lead the Saints tonight.
This is our year, our time, and our house.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: DaCoon on January 24, 2010, 05:24:58 PM
I am praying that Brees can lead the Saints tonight.
This is our year, our time, and our house.
:pray :pray :pray  and  :salute Spikes
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Dadsguns on January 24, 2010, 05:27:49 PM
I thought the Jets just may pull it off, but just didnt have it in the end.  I would have liked to see them win it.  WTG Colts and Jets, they played a good game.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Spikes on January 24, 2010, 05:30:10 PM
T-10
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: crazyivan on January 24, 2010, 06:41:51 PM

DOH!
My regards,

Widewing
 C-O-L-T-S Colts,Colts,Colts Say goodnite Gracie!

Like both Vikings and Saints. Wouldn't mind seeing Farve win just one more for the gipper! GL to both teams. Entertaining game so far. :aok
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Widewing on January 24, 2010, 07:36:37 PM
Well, the Colts made some excellent defensive adjustments in the second half. Losing Greene really hurt the Jets badly.

Great game by Manning who was his amazing best.

I really don't care who faces the Colts in the Superbowl... I can't see anyone beating them.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 24, 2010, 11:18:00 PM
The Jets are being exploited as frauds as I type this.  The frustration is already being shown in a facemask penalty.  The Jets were/are overrated.  There is a reason Peyton won a 4th MVP. As for Revas, he's a non-factor in this game.  The Colts are rushing just as good as the Jets.

No idea what game you watched. Colts had their hands full for a while. Yes the Jets got beat by a better team. But i would hardly say they were exploited as frauds.

If anything they showed the Colts defensive secondary is vulnerable

With a good draft and maybe a couple decent free agent acquisitions they are on the brink of being an elite team. Receiver and another quality corner
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Masherbrum on January 25, 2010, 12:25:25 AM
No idea what game you watched. Colts had their hands full for a while. Yes the Jets got beat by a better team. But i would hardly say they were exploited as frauds.

If anything they showed the Colts defensive secondary is vulnerable

With a good draft and maybe a couple decent free agent acquisitions they are on the brink of being an elite team. Receiver and another quality corner

All I heard from the CBS Pre Game, was how great Darrnell Revas was.   Peyton Manning was unaffected.   Rex Ryan needs to do less talking and worry about the upcoming Draft.   Colts are usually a 2nd half team in games like earlier.   

They were exploited.   They also caved under the pressure.   Some in this thread said "The Pressure was on the Colts".   Wrong, it was the other way around.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: trax1 on January 25, 2010, 12:35:03 AM
   Some in this thread said "The Pressure was on the Colts".   Wrong, it was the other way around.
I don't know why anyone would think the pressure was on the Colts, the Jets would have been the ones with all the pressure on them, the Colts probably came into that game already thinking about what they needed to pack to take with to Miami.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Widewing on January 25, 2010, 03:14:54 AM

They were exploited.   They also caved under the pressure.   Some in this thread said "The Pressure was on the Colts".   Wrong, it was the other way around.

The pressure WAS on the Colts. The Jets, who were not even expected to make the playoffs had nothing to lose. Eli Manning mentioned this himself, stating that far more pressure to win was on his brother than was on Sanchez. Should the Jets prevail, the Colts would require many years to live down the defeat as they were considered the best team in the league. Not at all unlike the Colts who lost to the Jets in 1969.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Getback on January 25, 2010, 04:27:56 AM
The pressure WAS on the Colts. The Jets, who were not even expected to make the playoffs had nothing to lose. Eli Manning mentioned this himself, stating that far more pressure to win was on his brother than was on Sanchez. Should the Jets prevail, the Colts would require many years to live down the defeat as they were considered the best team in the league. Not at all unlike the Colts who lost to the Jets in 1969.

My regards,

Widewing

Definitely on the the Colts. They got ripped for bolting in game 15 against the Jets.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: gusman on January 25, 2010, 08:53:25 AM
It was a good game and the Jets were in it to the end. My quote with 2 minutes left in the game. "They're only down by 13, they need a quick score and an onside kick and they're back in it!!  :x. The Colts defense was underrated, they did a hell of a job. It's looking to be a great SuperBowl!

Cheers,
gus
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Masherbrum on January 25, 2010, 09:58:52 AM
More pressure was on Mark Sanchez, he caved in.   People, including his Coach, expected too much of him this year.   In a couple of years, he'll be better off.   

Rex needs to do less talking and focus on coaching.   The Colts embarrassed his inability to corral the 10 yard passes.   
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: BoilerDown on January 25, 2010, 12:11:40 PM
Well I got the matchup I wanted in Saints-Colts.  The Colts game was closer than I expected (it was closer than the final score indicates).  The Saints-Vikings game was almost exactly like I expected, in that it was a very close game (it went to OT), but I was surprised at how sloppy they both played.  The Vikes actually outplayed the Saints by quite a bit, but turned it over too much.  So the Saints got bailed out by the turnovers, but they MUST play much better to have a chance against the Colts.

Nevertheless, I'm rooting for Drew Brees and the Saints to win.  I think it won't happen, but that's what I hope for.  I'm also looking forward to Drew getting the props he's deserved for quite some time now, as one of the elite QBs in the NFL.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Widewing on January 25, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
More pressure was on Mark Sanchez, he caved in.   People, including his Coach, expected too much of him this year.   In a couple of years, he'll be better off.   

Rex needs to do less talking and focus on coaching.   The Colts embarrassed his inability to corral the 10 yard passes.   

How did Sanchez cave in? His numbers were very good, posting a better playoff ranking than Drew Brees up until now. Better than Romo, better than Brady too. That's pretty elite company for a rookie to be in. He ranks #4 among the 12 QBs in the playoffs this year! Next year, he'll be better and so will the Jets.

Sanchez didn't cave. If anything, he was very conservative. He showed great poise under pressure. Both TD passes were on throws made just as he was hit.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: SIK1 on January 25, 2010, 04:14:09 PM
I thought Sanchez did an outstanding job for a veteran quarterback, let alone a rookie. He showed poise, vision of the field, and good decision making (definitely better than Favre's was yesterday) I never saw him cave. With time and the right mentoring Mark Sanchez will be one of the leagues premier QB's, and if the Jets keep doing what they are doing I think that they will be a major force in the AFC in the years to come. 

The Jets were beat because they did not have the depth (in either offence, or defense) that the Colts have. The Jets played a good game, the Colts just played a better one.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: trax1 on January 25, 2010, 04:36:33 PM
How did Sanchez cave in? His numbers were very good, posting a better playoff ranking than Drew Brees up until now. Better than Romo, better than Brady too. That's pretty elite company for a rookie to be in. He ranks #4 among the 12 QBs in the playoffs this year! Next year, he'll be better and so will the Jets.
Well I don't think you can really make a good comparison between Sanchez and those other QB's, the QB's you mentioned there are on teams that pass a whole lot more then the Jets do, the Jets are more of a rush team then a pass team.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Widewing on January 25, 2010, 06:55:04 PM
Well I don't think you can really make a good comparison between Sanchez and those other QB's, the QB's you mentioned there are on teams that pass a whole lot more then the Jets do, the Jets are more of a rush team then a pass team.

Sure you can make that comparison. Look at the stats rather than the BS of game announcers. The Jets have a more balanced attack, using the running game to set up the pass. Old school, if you will. Just remember that if not for some bad breaks mid season, the Jets could have finished the season at 14/2 rather than 11/5 (which isn't bad). In the playoffs, they beat the Bengals at home. They beat the Chargers at home, and they gave the Colts a real scare at home. Not bad for the fifth seed team that was destined to play every playoff game on the opposing team's field.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&conference=null&season=2009&seasonType=POST&d-447263-s=PASSING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1 (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&conference=null&season=2009&seasonType=POST&d-447263-s=PASSING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1)

Manning: 83 attempts, 56 completions / TDs 5 / Longest pass 46 / Interceptions 1
Favre: 70 attempts, 43 completions  TDs 5 / Longest pass 47 / Interceptions 2
Sanchez: 68 attempts, 41 completions TDs 4 / Longest pass 80 / Interceptions 2
Brees: 63 attempts, 40 completions TDs 6 / Longest pass 44 / Interceptions 0
Romo: 70 attempts, 45 completions TDs 2 / Longest pass 36 / Interceptions 1
Brady: 42 attempts, 23 completions TDs 2 / Longest pass 24 / Interceptions 3
Rivers: 40 attempts, 27 completions TDs 1 / Longest pass 37 / Interceptions 2

Again, the NFL rates Sanchez as the #4 ranking QB in the playoffs.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: fudgums on January 25, 2010, 07:00:03 PM


Manning: 83 attempts, 56 completions / TDs 5 / Longest pass 46 / Interceptions 1  2 games
Favre: 70 attempts, 43 completions  TDs 5 / Longest pass 47 / Interceptions 2  2 Games
Sanchez: 68 attempts, 41 completions TDs 4 / Longest pass 80 / Interceptions 2 3 Games
Brees: 63 attempts, 40 completions TDs 6 / Longest pass 44 / Interceptions 0 2 games
Romo: 70 attempts, 45 completions TDs 2 / Longest pass 36 / Interceptions 1 2 games
Brady: 42 attempts, 23 completions TDs 2 / Longest pass 24 / Interceptions 3 1 game
Rivers: 40 attempts, 27 completions TDs 1 / Longest pass 37 / Interceptions 2 1 Game

Again, the NFL rates Sanchez as the #4 ranking QB in the playoffs.




You cant.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Widewing on January 25, 2010, 07:15:48 PM
You cant.

The NFL just did. Maybe you missed it? Efficiency.. It counts.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: jd on January 26, 2010, 10:48:48 AM
Mannings a choke artist. That being said, how can you go against the Colts. Jets have pulled off one too many magic tricks this season. :bolt:

Colts: 34-Jets:17

<S>MajChaos

Not bad, not bad at all if I do say so myself. And I do. :lol

WHO DAT?  SAINTS BY A MILLION :rofl :bolt:
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: druski85 on January 26, 2010, 09:31:52 PM
Ditka by a late field goal. 

As for this game, I'm gonna say Colts take it, 28-17. 

Well then, if we are talking about our jedi mind powers to estimate game scores... mwah!  If I were only a betting man...  :D
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Widewing on January 26, 2010, 11:56:00 PM
Well then, if we are talking about our jedi mind powers to estimate game scores... mwah!  If I were only a betting man...  :D

Indeed, very close.  :aok


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: BoilerDown on January 27, 2010, 10:08:21 AM
The NFL just did. Maybe you missed it? Efficiency.. It counts.


My regards,

Widewing
I think you're cherry picking a stat that works in your QB's favor.  But when I see 6 TDs and 0 INTs, that has to be valued more than what Sanchez did, efficiency or no.

So here's the quarterbacks, sorted by QB Rating.  A much better indication of how well each QB in the playoffs have played.


Rk   Player      Team      Rate

1   Kurt Warner      ARI   129.1
2   Aaron Rodgers   GB    121.4
3   Drew Brees      NO   116.1
4   Peyton Manning   IND    104.6
5   Brett Favre      MIN   97.6
6   Mark Sanchez   NYJ   92.7
7   Tony Romo      DAL   85.5
8   Philip Rivers      SD   76.9
9   Donovan McNabb   PHI   68.5
10   Carson Palmer   CIN   58.3
11   Tom Brady      NE   49.1
12   Joe Flacco      BAL   39.4
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: trax1 on January 27, 2010, 10:37:59 AM
I think you're cherry picking a stat that works in your QB's favor.  But when I see 6 TDs and 0 INTs, that has to be valued more than what Sanchez did, efficiency or no.

So here's the quarterbacks, sorted by QB Rating.  A much better indication of how well each QB in the playoffs have played.


Rk   Player      Team      Rate

1   Kurt Warner      ARI   129.1
2   Aaron Rodgers   GB    121.4
3   Drew Brees      NO   116.1
4   Peyton Manning   IND    104.6
5   Brett Favre      MIN   97.6
6   Mark Sanchez   NYJ   92.7
7   Tony Romo      DAL   85.5
8   Philip Rivers      SD   76.9
9   Donovan McNabb   PHI   68.5
10   Carson Palmer   CIN   58.3
11   Tom Brady      NE   49.1
12   Joe Flacco      BAL   39.4

Now thats a better comparison of the QB's, of which Sanchez is just average.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Widewing on January 27, 2010, 12:32:13 PM
I think you're cherry picking a stat that works in your QB's favor.  But when I see 6 TDs and 0 INTs, that has to be valued more than what Sanchez did, efficiency or no.

So here's the quarterbacks, sorted by QB Rating.  A much better indication of how well each QB in the playoffs have played.


Rk   Player      Team      Rate

1   Kurt Warner      ARI   129.1
2   Aaron Rodgers   GB    121.4
3   Drew Brees      NO   116.1
4   Peyton Manning   IND    104.6
5   Brett Favre      MIN   97.6
6   Mark Sanchez   NYJ   92.7
7   Tony Romo      DAL   85.5
8   Philip Rivers      SD   76.9
9   Donovan McNabb   PHI   68.5
10   Carson Palmer   CIN   58.3
11   Tom Brady      NE   49.1
12   Joe Flacco      BAL   39.4


LOLOL You're the one cherry picking.. Rating is but one data point in calculating ranking... Follow their logic to the conclusion.

Yet, stop and think... A rookie QB has a better rating than 6 other QBs in the playoffs. Damned impressive as well.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Stoney on January 27, 2010, 01:39:46 PM
Bottom line is that Sanchez played a great game, and had a great playoff run as well.  Between he and Rex Ryan, Jets fans have something to look forward to in the near future.
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Getback on January 27, 2010, 01:41:42 PM
I saw on the NFL network a video of Peyton Manning getting into it with Jeff Saturday. Hilarious! Peyton had just failed to get into the end zone after throwing 3 passes and was PO'd. Saturday, who is 295 lbs soaking wet, comes in and states we should have ran the ball. Peyton goes ballistic, Oh, so you're calling the phreaking plays now!! and goes on a rage. Saturday, calmly said later, well Manning must have thought he had a good go work out in the Gym this week!  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: Getback on January 27, 2010, 01:43:00 PM
I think you're cherry picking a stat that works in your QB's favor.  But when I see 6 TDs and 0 INTs, that has to be valued more than what Sanchez did, efficiency or no.

So here's the quarterbacks, sorted by QB Rating.  A much better indication of how well each QB in the playoffs have played.


Rk   Player      Team      Rate

1   Kurt Warner      ARI   129.1
2   Aaron Rodgers   GB    121.4
3   Drew Brees      NO   116.1
4   Peyton Manning   IND    104.6
5   Brett Favre      MIN   97.6
6   Mark Sanchez   NYJ   92.7
7   Tony Romo      DAL   85.5
8   Philip Rivers      SD   76.9
9   Donovan McNabb   PHI   68.5
10   Carson Palmer   CIN   58.3
11   Tom Brady      NE   49.1
12   Joe Flacco      BAL   39.4


So-o-o-o what do the stats say about win-loss records for the past decade?
Title: Re: Colts or Jets?
Post by: crazyivan on January 27, 2010, 02:27:26 PM
I thought Flacco and the Ravens beat down Brady and the Pats 34-3? So if I dump afew flea flickers get a pass 100pt pass rating and lose the game by 30 points I'm great ,just the rest of the team sucks? :D  I think Widewing, believes Sanchez, is the next Joe Namath. He has potential Wide. Also agree with someone who said Rex Ryan needs to shut his blow hole and play the game. :rolleyes: