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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Karnak on January 20, 2010, 02:52:55 PM
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It would be nice to get some of the Japanese aircraft that were produced in significant numbers. As much as we see posts about the H8K2 or B7A2 and such, only slightly more than 100 of each of those were built. Lets take a look at some of the Japanese combat aircraft that were built in high numbers, but have yet to be added to AH.
Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
Ki-21 "Sally" 2064 built
D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
Ki-48 "Lily" 1997 built
Ki-46 "Dinah" 1746 built
Ki-45 "Nick" 1701 built
Ki-27 "Nate" 1329 built
B6N "Jill" 1268 built
Ki-44 "Tojo" 1225 built
P1Y1 "Frances" 1098 built
G3M "Nell" 1048 built
N1K1-J "George" 1007 built
It would be nice to see some of these aircraft added so as to flesh out the Japanese planeset and eliminate the need for so many harsh and inappropriate substitutions.
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Amen Brother but I'm afraid your preaching to the choir.
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the Oscar is long overdue.
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Though not built in 1000+ numbers, I'd rather see the J2M than another N1K variant.
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Though not built in 1000+ numbers, I'd rather see the J2M than another N1K variant.
Only reason I listed the N1K1-J is because it is so different from the N1K2-J as to be almost an entirely different aircraft.
I am also not suggesting that all of these need to be added, just that these are the 1000+ production run aircraft. As things like the Ta152, P-47M and F4U-1C have demonstrated, HTC does not see total production of an aircraft as an unassailable boundary.
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I am shocked that we have not seen the Oscar yet. I thumbs up the whole list! :aok
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Yeah, its pretty obvious that whether or not it will be used in the MA factors into addition.
The M was of course a gimme, just a D-40 with a uptuned engine.
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I don't see why we can't have ALL these planes! We have a wirbelwind and there were only 192 of them built, so if anyone pulls the amount made card you can always shove that in their face :D
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I don't see why we can't have ALL these planes! We have a wirbelwind and there were only 192 of them built, so if anyone pulls the amount made card you can always shove that in their face :D
These things take a lot of time to make, particularly the multi-position bombers such as the G3M, G4M, P1Y1, Ki-21 and Ki-48. A lot of them could very much be seen as duplicate effort as well. Do we really need both the G4M and Ki-21? While I like the P1Y1 a lot, do we need it in a game that has the Ki-67?
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and the Oscar goes to.............. the oscar of course
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:aok Any & all of them. :aok
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and the Oscar goes to.............. the oscar of course
+1
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Great list Karnak!
BUT, there MUST be another "gap" somewhere else that needs to filled 1st!!
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I very much agree. I would love to see more Japanese aircraft. Your list is great, and in a good order. The top three on your list plus the Ki-84Ib would rock for the MA some and the special events a bunch.
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the top two are must have aircraft :aok
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Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
Ki-27 "Nate" 1329 built
+1 the nate would be awesome for AVG scenarios
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I very much agree. I would love to see more Japanese aircraft. Your list is great, and in a good order. The top three on your list plus the Ki-84Ib would rock for the MA some and the special events a bunch.
My top three would be these:
Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
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would love to have all those!!! If i had to narrow it down to what i wanted it would be these 5, i tried to lower it to 3 then 4 but still had to add one more.
Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
Ki-45 "Nick" 1701 built
Ki-44 "Tojo" 1225 built
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But if we got the Ki-45 "Nick" everyone would be extremely confused because everyone calls the N1k a "nick" what are we supposed to call the actual "Nick"?
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my guess you will hear "KI-45" since i never hear anyone call a KI-84 a Frank or the KI-61 a Tony except for my squad mates.
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Ki-44 would be my pick.
Potential variants for early, mid and late war arenas, a lot of different gun options, and finally a japanese energy fighter for early and mid-war arenas.
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+1 :aok
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would love to have all those!!! If i had to narrow it down to what i wanted it would be these 5, i tried to lower it to 3 then 4 but still had to add one more.
Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
Ki-45 "Nick" 1701 built
Ki-44 "Tojo" 1225 built
This is a nice list,pretty much what I'd like to see added.
throw in a couple Russian planes and now we're talking!!
:salute
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G3M Nell was a prominent Japanese bomber for the first year of the war, and one the AVG also ran into many times. I'd like to see it as an early war addition (albeit more of a "that's a cool addition" rather than a vital hole-filler like the G4M Betty)
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Basically the Russian, Italy, France, Japan and any other country that i have not mention dose need to fill the gap. need to back off on U.S, British and Germany for a while.
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It would be nice to get some of the Japanese aircraft that were produced in significant numbers. As much as we see posts about the H8K2 or B7A2 and such, only slightly more than 100 of each of those were built. Lets take a look at some of the Japanese combat aircraft that were built in high numbers, but have yet to be added to AH.
Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
Ki-21 "Sally" 2064 built
D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
Ki-48 "Lily" 1997 built
Ki-46 "Dinah" 1746 built
Ki-45 "Nick" 1701 built
Ki-27 "Nate" 1329 built
B6N "Jill" 1268 built
Ki-44 "Tojo" 1225 built
P1Y1 "Frances" 1098 built
G3M "Nell" 1048 built
N1K1-J "George" 1007 built
It would be nice to see some of these aircraft added so as to flesh out the Japanese planeset and eliminate the need for so many harsh and inappropriate substitutions.
+1 :aok
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The Jill,Judy,Betty and Oscar would be a great start. It would cover late war CV action as well as early IJAAF.
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Add the A6M3 in there. Right now we don't have a true mid-war Zero. Heck, you could fill out about half a dozen A6Ms, and probably about as many Oscars, just with different gun packages.
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Actually we need that whole list, and have needed it for 5 or 6 years now.
But as noted above, Oscar, Betty, Jill, Judy should be the next for planes.
Followed by ki-44, ki-45, ki-46 and probably ki-21 and ki-48. I need to go do some research on both Lily and Sally.
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G3M Nell was a prominent Japanese bomber for the first year of the war, and one the AVG also ran into many times. I'd like to see it as an early war addition (albeit more of a "that's a cool addition" rather than a vital hole-filler like the G4M Betty)
Actually the area the AVG operated was primarily an IJAAF area of operation and responsibility. They saw very little if any combat against IJN aircraft like the G3M or G4M.
Their bomber intercepts consisted mainly of IJAAF Ki-21 Sallys and Ki-48 Lilys. That being said I'm with you for the addition of aircraft like the G3M. :aok
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Add the A6M3 in there. Right now we don't have a true mid-war Zero. Heck, you could fill out about half a dozen A6Ms, and probably about as many Oscars, just with different gun packages.
Yes, can't forget the A6M3 +1 :rock
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This is the most exciting list I have seen in a long time. I would love these planes much more-so than WW1 planes.
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I'd love to see this list in game, not only because they might be neat to fly, but it would give me some historic giggles shooting them down. Screen shot art galore.
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agreed :aok :banana: banana
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and the Oscar goes to.............. the oscar of course
:aok
The Ki-43 Hyabusa ("Oscar") was produced in greater numbers than any other IJA aircraft, and served on every front for the entire duration of the war.
Oh, yeah... and I kinda like the rest of the list, too.
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The Japanese industry could not come close to matching the production capabilities of the US, UK, Germany or Russia, but they did put an awful lot of different types into service. I would not be surprised if the Japanese had the second largest number of different types of aircraft in service during WWII after the US. The reason being the same as the US, they had two separate services with two almost entirely separate aircraft inventories between the Imperial Japanese Army and Imperial Japanese Navy.
Given all of that, it really is a shame how narrow the Japanese planeset in AH is.
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The Japanese industry could not come close to matching the production capabilities of the US, UK, Germany or Russia, but they did put an awful lot of different types into service. I would not be surprised if the Japanese had the second largest number of different types of aircraft in service during WWII after the US. The reason being the same as the US, they had two separate services with two almost entirely separate aircraft inventories between the Imperial Japanese Army and Imperial Japanese Navy.
Given all of that, it really is a shame how narrow the Japanese planeset in AH is.
I think this came up once before in a previous discussion on the Japanese plane set.
I think I'd come up with a list of airframes and variants that would complete the Japanese set of major types and variants that would allow a sufficient stable to recreate almost any part of the Pacific war, and the Japanese set ended up matching the number of US aircraft ALREADY in the game (the US is still missing a handful of important ones, particularly the Devastator and Helldiver).
I hope HTC considers the versatility of gunnery packages when they eventually get to remodeling the Zeros and adding the Oscar. It would be REALLY easy to greatly expand the number of Zero variants just with gunnery packages (you could EASILY have 3-4 versions of the A6M5 just with gun package options, depending on whether you allow the standard A6M5 to have the armor, etc. of the 5a, b and c). The Ki-43 could also have a much larger number of variants on one or two airframes and flight models with larger numbers of gun package options.