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Title: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Plawranc on January 21, 2010, 02:50:50 AM
In case you have not heard, a remake of the classic film "Red Dawn" is currently underway. This time them commie bastages "to quote many a redneck" are coming from China hellbent on the subjugation of the American people. And so a group of American teens retreat to the hills above Potomic Michigan to fight the invaders.

I have high hopes for this film. What do you guys reckon.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: MadHatter on January 21, 2010, 03:32:03 AM
 :huh   :confused:  :uhoh  :pray God, please, please, please, please don't let them screw this up. They're also making an A-team movie too.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: eagl on January 21, 2010, 05:04:04 AM
From China?  When was the last time they invaded anyone or deployed offensive weapons in our direction?  Seems sort of dumb to me.  The only harmful thing China has done to us lately is feed our addiction to cheap consumer goods, and complaining about that is a bit like blaming Ben and Jerry's for making people fat and being oh so delicious in the same sentence.

I guess it's not PC to shoot people who actually don't like us anymore...  Nothing like inflaming racial tensions.  Hey, let's get a bunch of people who don't look or speak like "us" and make a movie about them invading the country!  That'll help.

If they were to make a movie about the people who are actually invading and who threaten the soverignty of the US, the country that has over a million infiltrators actually in the country right now, you all know what country it would be about.  If they're going to inspire racial hatred and fear, and few things inspire hatred and fear like speculation about the loss of home, family, and country, why not make it about something that is actually real and in progress?

Stupid hollyweird.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Getback on January 21, 2010, 05:07:29 AM
MGD once made an AH map using the United States as the Format. I asked him if he named it "Red Dawn".  :rofl

That should be a pretty good film. Already has my interest.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: scot12b on January 21, 2010, 05:49:08 AM
:huh   :confused:  :uhoh  :pray God, please, please, please, please don't let them screw this up. They're also making an A-team movie too.
I hear you let`s pray :pray :salute
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: cpxxx on January 21, 2010, 08:31:28 AM
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the country that has over a million infiltrators actually in the country right now
I think the trouble with anyone invading America is that they would soon buy into the 'land of opportunity' thing and want to leave things as they are.

Half the Chinese army would desert as soon as they arrive, move to California and change sides. No invader would have a chance.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: sluggish on January 21, 2010, 08:58:21 AM
I think the trouble with anyone invading America is that they would soon buy into the 'land of opportunity' thing and want to leave things as they are.

Half the Chinese army would desert as soon as they arrive, move to California and change sides. No invader would have a chance.  :cheers:

How long were those guys here before they hijacked airliners and killed three thousand people?
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: 68ZooM on January 21, 2010, 12:08:57 PM
This is truely a sign from the Movie Gods that Hollyweird again dips into the remake zone, and are totaly braindead when it comes to new ideas for movies
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: LLogann on January 21, 2010, 12:54:11 PM
You must be a young man......... That or one of those liberals that is letting the Chinese government buy more of our publicly traded stocks.  The Cold War was fought without weapons too young man.  When you get to highschool take a Western Civ class, it'll help you understand the world you live in.

From China?  When was the last time they invaded anyone or deployed offensive weapons in our direction?  Seems sort of dumb to me.  


And just an FYI...... The comments I removed, clearly show that you are a racist. 
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: john9001 on January 21, 2010, 12:57:07 PM
their business is making movies, if they want to stay in business they have to keep making new movies,  if they have no new story lines then they just have to rewrite the old story lines. People will keep paying millions of dollars to see the same old story lines, just with new actors and stuff.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Masherbrum on January 21, 2010, 01:17:45 PM
In case you have not heard, a remake of the classic film "Red Dawn" is currently underway. This time them commie bastages "to quote many a redneck" are coming from China hellbent on the subjugation of the American people. And so a group of American teens retreat to the hills above Potomic Michigan to fight the invaders.

I have high hopes for this film. What do you guys reckon.

I know it's being filmed in Michigan, but do you mean Pontiac, Michigan?   I'm glad with Eastwood's Gran Torino, Hollywood is filming in Michigan.   
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Loathing on January 21, 2010, 01:35:36 PM
Can't wait!
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: sluggish on January 21, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
I know it's being filmed in Michigan, but do you mean Pontiac, Michigan?   I'm glad with Eastwood's Gran Torino, Hollywood is filming in Michigan.   

What hills above Pontiac?
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: saggs on January 21, 2010, 02:06:00 PM
STUUUUUPIIIIIIID!!

It can never live up to the greatness of the original because the world situation is so different now, the cold war is gone.

Red Dawn was great because it was current, a movie about the Soviets (and other commies) invading, at a time when that was a legitimate concern in our nation.  It created a real tension, people thought "Oh my goodness!  This could happen." now it will just be lame.

Get and original idea Hollywood. :rolleyes:

Funny that in this one supposedly China is invading us, when in the original China was our ally.  I remember the line from the shot down pilot when asked who's on our side,  "Half a billion screamin' China-men!"
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: druski85 on January 21, 2010, 02:58:59 PM
To everyone thinking this new movie will be bad because of a ridiculous premise, please go re-watch the old Red Dawn.  Classic, entertaining flick?  Absolutely.  Feasible/realistic?  Get a clue.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: VonMessa on January 21, 2010, 03:06:30 PM
To everyone thinking this new movie will be bad because of a ridiculous premise, please go re-watch the old Red Dawn.  Classic, entertaining flick?  Absolutely.  Feasible/realistic?  Get a clue.   :rolleyes:

If you were between 12 and 20 years old when Red Dawn came out and didn't think to yourself.

"Hell yeah, my friends and I could whoop those Commie  bastages just like they did!!"  you are either

A) lying to yourself

or

B) to senile to remember that line of thinking

 :D

WOLVERINES !!!!!!!     :rock
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: USRanger on January 21, 2010, 04:20:26 PM
I remember re-enacting it with my friends around the neighborhood. :rock
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Jappa52 on January 21, 2010, 04:58:00 PM
Why can't they just leave em be.

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Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: 1pLUs44 on January 21, 2010, 05:01:41 PM
In case you have not heard, a remake of the classic film "Red Dawn" is currently underway. This time them commie bastages "to quote many a redneck" are coming from China hellbent on the subjugation of the American people. And so a group of American teens retreat to the hills above Potomic Michigan to fight the invaders.

I have high hopes for this film. What do you guys reckon.

Psh, send 'em down to Texas, that'd be a real movie with just the Chinese trying to get from the coast to Austin.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: trax1 on January 21, 2010, 05:03:06 PM
Maybe thats why G4 has been playing the hell out of that movie lately, I've seen it on at least 5-10 times in the last 2 months.

I hope that the remake is as good as the original.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: USRanger on January 21, 2010, 06:27:58 PM
Why can't they just leave em be.

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I can tell by that cast shot that it is going to be ruined. :(
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Masherbrum on January 21, 2010, 06:44:38 PM
What hills above Pontiac?

Actually near the Black River off of M-19 would shock most.   Rugged terrain and I spent many summers there playing paintball with my ex-military buddies.   
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Jappa52 on January 21, 2010, 06:51:57 PM
I can tell by that cast shot that it is going to be ruined. :(

yup, i was hoping somebody else would notice the PC bull@%# recast job they did.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: 68ZooM on January 21, 2010, 06:57:43 PM
yup, i was hoping somebody else would notice the PC bull@%# recast job they did.

lol yep on two of the cast members, just like the charlies angels remake look what happened to bosley  lol
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Rollins on January 21, 2010, 07:08:24 PM
It's totally feasible. China attacks without warning, hacking into our computer system, paralyzing the country.

Our group of heroic l33t gamerz retreats in pairs into basements to fight back against the Commie onslaught, frantically trying to maintain their Facebook status, Tweeting the latest tactical moves to each other, fueled only by waning bags of Cheetos, a few pizza bagel bites and cans of Amp, and the need to habitually insert the word 'like' several times into every sentence.

If we have to depend on today's youth to fight off an invasion... gl.   :uhoh
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Meatwad on January 21, 2010, 07:14:27 PM
I think the trouble with anyone invading America is that they would soon buy into the 'land of opportunity' thing and want to leave things as they are.

Half the Chinese army would desert as soon as they arrive, move to California and change sides. No invader would have a chance.  :cheers:

They would have to force out all the illegal mexicans for jobs
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Tupac on January 21, 2010, 07:32:52 PM
It's totally feasible. China attacks without warning, hacking into our computer system, paralyzing the country.

Our group of heroic l33t gamerz retreats in pairs into basements to fight back against the Commie onslaught, frantically trying to maintain their Facebook status, Tweeting the latest tactical moves to each other, fueled only by waning bags of Cheetos, a few pizza bagel bites and cans of Amp, and the need to habitually insert the word 'like' several times into every sentence.

If we have to depend on today's youth to fight off an invasion... gl.   :uhoh

im 17, and im not like that, i have my glider solo, am in CAP, and never use the word "like" in a sentence unless i am reffereing to something that i "like"

so, like yeah
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Tupac on January 21, 2010, 07:35:41 PM
Why can't they just leave em be.

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looks like the cast of "the hills"
isnt that one kid from the chronicles of narnia?
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: john9001 on January 21, 2010, 07:57:07 PM
why would china attack a country that buys 50% of their exports? Even the communists aren't that stupid.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Rollins on January 21, 2010, 08:28:02 PM
im 17, and im not like that, i have my glider solo, am in CAP, and never use the word "like" in a sentence unless i am reffereing to something that i "like"

so, like yeah

Sometimes man bites dog.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: MORAY37 on January 21, 2010, 11:21:44 PM
I can't believe no one has said it...


WOLVERINES!
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: trax1 on January 21, 2010, 11:25:42 PM
I can't believe no one has said it...


WOLVERINES!
Someone did, check the first post on page 2 from VonMessa.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: rpm on January 22, 2010, 01:33:43 AM
Avenge me!!!
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: MadHatter on January 22, 2010, 04:23:54 AM
Psh, send 'em down to Texas, that'd be a real movie with just the Chinese trying to get from the coast to Austin.

LOL could you imagine them trying to get through the South side of San Antonio, then have to run the 35 corridor?
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: trax1 on January 22, 2010, 04:54:33 AM
I found this synopsis on IMDB about the movie, basically the same story as the first with a few changes.

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lt's Friday night and the residents of Spokane are consumed with the thoughts of the local high school football game. The Wolverines just lost a nail biter and the team's quarterback Matt Eckert is trying to shake off the tough loss. Adding to Matt's worries is the sudden and unexpected return of his older brother Jed (played by Chris Hemsworth, STAR TREK). After their mom died, Jed left town with no warning and enlisted in the military. Now Jed is home unexpectedly after serving in Afghanistan and the brothers' relationship is strained at best. After some encouraging words from his dad and his girlfriend Erica, Matt heads home to sleep off his loss. The next morning Matt is startled awake as their whole house shakes violently. Running outside, Matt and Jed find the sky filled with parachutes and the streets lined with military vehicles. For the first time in history, the United States is being occupied by foreign armies. The invaders are calling themselves the "People's Liberation Army" and they easily outnumber the citizens of Spokane. Matt and Jed's worst nightmares are actualized as missiles scream into nearby houses, rocking them with explosions. On the once quiet streets of their neighborhood, U.S. citizens are being rounded up and taken prisoner. Suddenly, with horror, Matt realizes that the foreign invaders have captured his father and his girlfriend Erica. Matt screams out to them, vowing to save them as Jed drags his brother away to safety.

With the town completely overrun by the enemy, Matt and Jed watch helplessly as their father gives up his life to protect his family, allowing his sons to escape into the Cascade mountains. Determined to fight for their community and rescue what's left of their hometown, the brothers assemble a ragtag group of high school students and begin to fight back. Being a war hero, Jed is able to train this unlikely group of heroes the same way that he was trained. Soon they are transformed into sharp shooting, camouflaged, freedom fighters. Known as the "Wolverines" (after Matt's football team), the group soon becomes a national symbol for the resistance and the hope of Americans everywhere. What this enemy didn't realize is that what makes the U.S. great is not the size of its military, but rather the men and women who wear the uniform and the communities they come from.

With the help of an underground network of scared but brave townspeople, the Wolverines quickly go from a minor nuisance to serious threat as they begin to batter away at the invaders. Using their superior knowledge of the landscape that they grew up around gives them a strategic advantage. The foreign invaders want to destroy the American way of life but the Wolverines aren't going to let that happen.

Meanwhile, Matt is searching tirelessly for his girlfriend Erica who is being held prisoner by the invaders. He will stop at nothing to rescue the girl he loves even if it means risking his life to do so. With the fate of the country on the shoulders of these small town heroes, the Wolverines must summon the courage to overcome impossible odds and unity a town against the greatest threat this country ever faced. Outnumbered and with limited supplies, the Wolverines must rely on the spirit instilled in every small town across the U.S... protect your neighbor at all costs, because even though they aren't your blood, they're still your family. RED DAWN will show you that when this country is in its darkest hour, salvation can be found where we least expect it.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Plawranc on January 22, 2010, 04:56:26 AM
In response to LLogan.

I am from Australia in case you have not noticed in the 2 years of odd accented squeaking that has taken place. I have a great interest in the cold war and military history in general and before you ask yes I am a Red on the political spectrum.

I quite like the premise of an invasion of the USA due to the fact that even though its theoretical and very improbable. It hammers home and somewhat dispells the illusion of the USA's invincibility which I think is what the youth of the USA needs, a wakeup call telling them that their nation is NOT completely safe unless they are willing to stand up and FIGHT for it as their fathers including some of the members on this forum have had to do.

And besides the original was a classic :D I agree on the cast though. PLEASE DONT FUDGE IT UP!!  :eek:  :pray
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: warhed on January 22, 2010, 05:19:58 AM
I know it's being filmed in Michigan, but do you mean Pontiac, Michigan?   I'm glad with Eastwood's Gran Torino, Hollywood is filming in Michigan.   

Yes, it was in Pontiac.  I can't believe you didn't go check it out, the entire downtown area was converted with Chinese and Korean signs, propaganda, etc.  Was kind of weird walking around through it. 
Tom Cruise's son is in this film if that tells you anything about it...  :D
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: sluggish on January 22, 2010, 08:19:28 AM
Yes, it was in Pontiac.  I can't believe you didn't go check it out, the entire downtown area was converted with Chinese and Korean signs, propaganda, etc.  Was kind of weird walking around through it. 
Tom Cruise's son is in this film if that tells you anything about it...  :D

I would need a VERY good reason to travel south of Flint and ONLY reason I go there is that my Mom and Dad live in Lennon and my company's district off ice is on Miller rd...
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: cpxxx on January 22, 2010, 09:29:58 AM
How long were those guys here before they hijacked airliners and killed three thousand people?
I did say half! Not all of them.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 22, 2010, 12:57:44 PM
yup, i was hoping somebody else would notice the PC bull@%# recast job they did.

Figures, they would leave out the Hispanic kid.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Grayeagle on January 22, 2010, 05:48:33 PM
'I got 5 of 'em'

First thing I thought when I heard that line from the shot down F-15 pilot:

'Slacker'

-LOL

-GE
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Rino on January 22, 2010, 05:56:00 PM
In response to LLogan.

I am from Australia in case you have not noticed in the 2 years of odd accented squeaking that has taken place. I have a great interest in the cold war and military history in general and before you ask yes I am a Red on the political spectrum.

I quite like the premise of an invasion of the USA due to the fact that even though its theoretical and very improbable. It hammers home and somewhat dispells the illusion of the USA's invincibility which I think is what the youth of the USA needs, a wakeup call telling them that their nation is NOT completely safe unless they are willing to stand up and FIGHT for it as their fathers including some of the members on this forum have had to do.

And besides the original was a classic :D I agree on the cast though. PLEASE DONT FUDGE IT UP!!  :eek:  :pray

Funny how Commies only win in Hollywood and in fantasies  :D
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: allaire on January 22, 2010, 06:24:57 PM
Anyone else notice the casting mistake with the kid that betrayed them?
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: 68ZooM on January 22, 2010, 06:44:54 PM
Anyone else notice the casting mistake with the kid that betrayed them?

 :aok +
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Plawranc on January 22, 2010, 11:53:11 PM
Funny how Commies only win in Hollywood and in fantasies  :D

They did all right in Vietnam, Korea and WW2 didn't they? and Cuba rings a bell too. But I'm not here to start a Commie flaming debate.

But the films premise, an invasion of the USA: Certainly possible. Succsessful ocupation of the USA: No chance in hell. A complete victory by the Soviets/Chinese over the US military: By sheer weight of numbers and some areas of tech superiority a severe possibility. But a complete defeat of the USA and total crushing of the population WITHOUT the complete destruction of the US government and population: Never in a million years.

Red Dawn makes a point, the USA and its military can be and more than likely will be overwhelmed and destroyed in the event of a Russian or Chinese takeover. But the American people will fight for every square inch of soil with every ounce of strenght they possess. And this is the message. Oh and my opinon on the casting is HORRID. Get actors who can actually act please.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Plawranc on January 23, 2010, 12:05:52 AM
It's totally feasible. China attacks without warning, hacking into our computer system, paralyzing the country.

Our group of heroic l33t gamerz retreats in pairs into basements to fight back against the Commie onslaught, frantically trying to maintain their Facebook status, Tweeting the latest tactical moves to each other, fueled only by waning bags of Cheetos, a few pizza bagel bites and cans of Amp, and the need to habitually insert the word 'like' several times into every sentence.

If we have to depend on today's youth to fight off an invasion... gl.   :uhoh

Don't worry homie G, yall N*****rs in da hood wil go all gangsta shicze on dem commie motwittlers.

Yep your doomed.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Grayeagle on January 23, 2010, 11:28:21 AM
It's a good premise for entertainment and to scare kids.

'Overwhelming' the defenses of the USA is just not possible by any combination of adversaries on this planet.

The limiting factor of an AWACS guided F-15 is how many missiles it can carry ..with AWACS tracking the Eagle doesn't even have to turn on it's radar.
..and that was back in the '70's.. and that is just one single weapon system.

'Sneakin' the troop planes in disquised as commercial airliners ...another great premise for entertainment ..  good luck with *that* ..not sayin a dedicated very high roller adversary could'nt try it .. just sayin the tactic would have more than a few problems to overcome ..not the least of them being big, fat, and slow ..and forget about low altitude drops anywhere near a hawk battery
..and even the Guard has tons of 'em.

-GE aka Frank (and they can turn on, lock on, and launch pretty damn fast :)
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: jay on January 23, 2010, 12:16:53 PM
prepare for them to slaughter this movie even more
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: crazyivan on January 23, 2010, 12:19:16 PM


Our group of heroic l33t gamerz retreats in pairs into basements to fight back against the Commie onslaught, frantically trying to maintain their Facebook status, Tweeting the latest tactical moves to each other, fueled only by waning bags of Cheetos, a few pizza bagel bites and cans of Amp, and the need to habitually insert the word 'like' several times into every sentence.

If we have to depend on today's youth to fight off an invasion... gl.
 Think I heard that on the John Stewart Show, original  :neener:

Oh boy the Narnija or labyarinth kid gonna be in it please mom can I see it please!  
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: 68ZooM on January 23, 2010, 12:43:07 PM
Heck were safe with todays kids, they will just text the enemy to death, or they will just play loud screamo music that will run'em off ..... Oh wait yea were toast    :bolt:
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: MORAY37 on January 23, 2010, 12:58:14 PM
They did all right in Vietnam, Korea and WW2 didn't they? and Cuba rings a bell too. But I'm not here to start a Commie flaming debate.


Many would postulate that China simply changed tactics in the latter 20th century; their goal is still the same. 

When your "enemy" depends upon you for most manufactured goods and that competition shuts most of his factories down( not to mention you are his bank that lends him all his money to pay for wars that are actually of interest to you) ....aren't you then controlling your enemy?
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: 68ZooM on January 23, 2010, 01:55:43 PM
Well it wouldn't really be an Invasion from China, It's just China Repossessing there land they own.   :bolt:
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Larry on January 24, 2010, 12:27:54 AM
Psh, send 'em down to Texas, that'd be a real movie with just the Chinese trying to get from the coast to Austin.

Real movie would be Texas invading America.  :noid
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Tango on January 24, 2010, 12:59:33 AM
They did all right in Vietnam, Korea and WW2 didn't they?

Vietnam and Korea the US military had thier hands tied.

WW2? It would have been different if Hitler didn't have to fight the US and Britan.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Bodhi on January 24, 2010, 10:29:55 PM
If anyone wanted to subjugate this nation, all they would have to do is launch an EMP attack against us.  Sit back a few months, then come in and reap the resources.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: trax1 on January 24, 2010, 11:10:55 PM
If anyone wanted to subjugate this nation, all they would have to do is launch an EMP attack against us.  Sit back a few months, then come in and reap the resources.
Well that could be said about any modern country, the only places that wouldn't work is on a 3rd world nation, but who wants to invade them.

But a large part of our military command is shielded against EMP, so they'd still have to deal with them. 
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Rollins on January 25, 2010, 02:42:59 AM
 Think I heard that on the John Stewart Show, original  :neener:

If Stewart said it, it wasn't one of the episodes I saw, so, yeah. Original. Thanks for the heads up though, maybe I'll put in an app to be a writer and start making some cash.  :aok
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: sluggish on January 25, 2010, 09:21:58 AM
The best way to invade this country would be with a few well placed operatives within the federal government that would push policy to devalue the currency and make guarding the borders ineffective.  It would take a long time but could be accomplished without firing a shot.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Shuffler on January 25, 2010, 01:08:56 PM
... if and when we are eventually attacked, it will be over the border with mexico. Path of least resistance. Just pay a couple of pesos to the so called police and military there. You can put boots on the ground and build up the equipment just over the border.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: MadHatter on January 25, 2010, 01:46:08 PM
... if and when we are eventually attacked, it will be over the border with mexico. Path of least resistance. Just pay a couple of pesos to the so called police and military there. You can put boots on the ground and build up the equipment just over the border.

Depends on which spart of the border you're talking about.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: jay on January 25, 2010, 04:05:27 PM
all the drug lords make up there military

... if and when we are eventually attacked, it will be over the border with mexico. Path of least resistance. Just pay a couple of pesos to the so called police and military there. You can put boots on the ground and build up the equipment just over the border.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Tango on January 25, 2010, 08:24:42 PM
The best way to invade this country would be with a few well placed operatives within the federal government that would push policy to devalue the currency and make guarding the borders ineffective.  It would take a long time but could be accomplished without firing a shot.

I bet the Feds are gonna pay you a visit now for leaking that info.  :aok
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Bodhi on January 25, 2010, 11:51:14 PM
Well that could be said about any modern country, the only places that wouldn't work is on a 3rd world nation, but who wants to invade them.

But a large part of our military command is shielded against EMP, so they'd still have to deal with them. 

Trax, most of our military is hardly close to being hardened for an EMP attack.  Command centers might be, but the sheer disaster that a coordinated EMP attack on this country could wreak is beyond any comprehension.  At the very least if three weapons were detonated in the atmosphere across the continent, 95% of the civilians would be without any form of modern power or conveyance.  Very shortly there after, a massive die off would occur.  Fighting back would be pointless especially considering we might not know who perpetrated it, and how then does a nation without any means of conveyance, supply it's military, let alone it's populace used to daily supply.

I was turned onto a book called "One Second After" by some others.  It is a highly plausible scenario of just such an attack.  A good read if you have the time.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: warhed on January 28, 2010, 06:27:08 PM
I would need a VERY good reason to travel south of Flint and ONLY reason I go there is that my Mom and Dad live in Lennon and my company's district off ice is on Miller rd...

Are you living in the Flint area?  I was born and raised there.  Would love an opportunity to settle down back home, but I'm afraid my line of work will never permit that.
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: Penguin on January 28, 2010, 06:42:08 PM
Well then you also have the rest of the UN and NATO to deal with, along with our over-seas forces and navy; you'd be hard pressed to capture us.  The country itself might be defenseless, but anyone with the balls to take us on will hardly be considered harmless.  Even if we lose, someone's probably going to take you down, one way or another.

On the other hand, we could just nuke the country to grey dust before you could take it.  :noid 

-Penguin
Title: Re: Red Dawn - 2010
Post by: trax1 on January 28, 2010, 08:10:05 PM
Trax, most of our military is hardly close to being hardened for an EMP attack.  Command centers might be, but the sheer disaster that a coordinated EMP attack on this country could wreak is beyond any comprehension.  At the very least if three weapons were detonated in the atmosphere across the continent, 95% of the civilians would be without any form of modern power or conveyance.  Very shortly there after, a massive die off would occur.  Fighting back would be pointless especially considering we might not know who perpetrated it, and how then does a nation without any means of conveyance, supply it's military, let alone it's populace used to daily supply.

I was turned onto a book called "One Second After" by some others.  It is a highly plausible scenario of just such an attack.  A good read if you have the time.
Yeah I only meant the command, I know that everything else would be gone, but if we had to have one section remain intact that would be one of them.