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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Masherbrum on January 23, 2010, 12:05:35 PM
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Woke up this AM to "Honey, the monitor won't come on". Swap power cables, no dice. "VC ok"? It is fine. Lug our 17" dell CRT back up monitor from the basement and viola!
Looking at this one right now and have my better half, on board. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049)
It is a 2x Award Winner, which I take somewhat into the issue.
I'm looking at 24" less than $250, for less "Wife Ack". Anything over would be like a Captured Zeppelin, trying to fly over Berlin in 1943. Let me know what you guys think.
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new egg rocks........the monitor is sweeeeeeeeet........and most likely..... $900 just a year ago.
*edit: it is "glossy" though...so if that's an issue...be advised.
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Do you have any friends who are halfway competent with electronics and a soldering iron? Nine out of ten LCD monitors I have worked on were fixable with the replacement of around two dollars worth of parts. The electrolytic capacitors are generally the first parts to fail in a LCD monitor, and are the cheapest and easiest parts to replace.
I have brought at least four monitors back to life in the last three months.
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I posted this awhile back, may help you out....
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,277696.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,277696.0.html)
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Might I suggest a Samsung 24 1080p?
http://www.buy.com/prod/samsung-2494sw-24-widescreen-1080p-lcd-monitor-50-000-1-dc-5ms-dvi/q/loc/111/211959887.html (http://www.buy.com/prod/samsung-2494sw-24-widescreen-1080p-lcd-monitor-50-000-1-dc-5ms-dvi/q/loc/111/211959887.html)
Less than the Asus, lower power consumption, and free shipping.
*edit* hmmmm...24 would be a tempting upgrade...
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I've got the Samsung 23" P2350, under 200$ at Sam's club.
I'm very happy with mine, looking at getting one for the wife with tax rebate.
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Might I suggest a Samsung 24 1080p?
http://www.buy.com/prod/samsung-2494sw-24-widescreen-1080p-lcd-monitor-50-000-1-dc-5ms-dvi/q/loc/111/211959887.html (http://www.buy.com/prod/samsung-2494sw-24-widescreen-1080p-lcd-monitor-50-000-1-dc-5ms-dvi/q/loc/111/211959887.html)
Less than the Asus, lower power consumption, and free shipping.
*edit* hmmmm...24 would be a tempting upgrade...
it has 5ms thats slow
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Woke up this AM to "Honey, the monitor won't come on". Swap power cables, no dice. "VC ok"? It is fine. Lug our 17" dell CRT back up monitor from the basement and viola!
Looking at this one right now and have my better half, on board. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049)
It is a 2x Award Winner, which I take somewhat into the issue.
I'm looking at 24" less than $250, for less "Wife Ack". Anything over would be like a Captured Zeppelin, trying to fly over Berlin in 1943. Let me know what you guys think.
:neener: I got that same monitor WITH a built in webcam for 30 dollars less on ebay :D You'll love it though, great color reproduction, fast response, crisp picture, etc...
new egg rocks........the monitor is sweeeeeeeeet........and most likely..... $900 just a year ago.
*edit: it is "glossy" though...so if that's an issue...be advised.
It's not the screen that is glossy, it's the plastic around it, I personally liked the glossy screen on my old hp monitor more though.
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it has 5ms thats slow
Can YOU VISIBLY tell the 3ms difference between the two? I mean come on just about 2 years ago people stopped prattling about 5ms refresh being the best thing in the world. 5ms refresh is amazing and the price is RIGHT!
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Given that there can easily be 25 ms "real" difference between 2 monitors rated at the same settings .... I'd say ratings don't mean squat.
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it has 5ms thats slow
I can notice some ghosting on my 2nd monitor, which is a 6 year old Hercules Prophetview LCD, with a 20ms response (which was pretty good at the time). Right next to it I have a nearly 3 year old Viewsonic with 5ms response time. I can't see any ghosting.
As long as the LCD is not a knock off brand, I'd give a thumbs up for 5ms.
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Yeah, it IS mainly older monitors with 15-20+ms responses that ghost, 5ms will work fine unless you're running something uber fast, faster than you will ever move or jerk around in AH.
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Wife nixed the first one.
She's copacetic with this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059)
My LG L1932TQ that just went, was a 4ms, so I know a 5ms would be no problem.
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it has 5ms thats slow
Twinboom, when you prove that your eyeballs can tell the difference between 5 milliseconds and 3 milliseconds consistently...I'll consider a faster response time. In a few years you will be saying 10 nanoseconds is slow.
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Twinboom, when you prove that your eyeballs can tell the difference between 5 milliseconds and 3 milliseconds consistently...I'll consider a faster response time. In a few years you will be saying 10 nanoseconds is slow.
One thing to remember with lcds is that response times can be reported in several different ways. The reports are not always comparable. Another issue is with input delay which varies a lot between monitors. Input delay means the delay between actual movement in game and what you see on screen.
Input delay can be real bad so that when you move your head around the image seems to follow like it was attached to a long flexible rod, lagging behind visibly.
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One thing to remember with lcds is that response times can be reported in several different ways. The reports are not always comparable. Another issue is with input delay which varies a lot between monitors. Input delay means the delay between actual movement in game and what you see on screen.
Input delay can be real bad so that when you move your head around the image seems to follow like it was attached to a long flexible rod, lagging behind visibly.
Correct, good post Rip.
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So how do you find input delay specs?
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Woke up this AM to "Honey, the monitor won't come on". Swap power cables, no dice. "VC ok"? It is fine. Lug our 17" dell CRT back up monitor from the basement and viola!
Looking at this one right now and have my better half, on board. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049)
It is a 2x Award Winner, which I take somewhat into the issue.
I'm looking at 24" less than $250, for less "Wife Ack". Anything over would be like a Captured Zeppelin, trying to fly over Berlin in 1943. Let me know what you guys think.
I purchased one of these recently..... http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktop-monitors/lcd/x-series/vx2265wm-fuhzion-lcd.htm (http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktop-monitors/lcd/x-series/vx2265wm-fuhzion-lcd.htm)
It is only 1 of 2(at the time) 120hz LCD monitors currently being made.... So far, no 24" 120hz exists, or else I would've gotten one.. I cannot explain the difference.. It's almost life like when playing
AH or any game made within the last 3-4 years..
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I purchased one of these recently..... http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktop-monitors/lcd/x-series/vx2265wm-fuhzion-lcd.htm (http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktop-monitors/lcd/x-series/vx2265wm-fuhzion-lcd.htm)
It is only 1 of 2(at the time) 120hz LCD monitors currently being made.... So far, no 24" 120hz exists, or else I would've gotten one.. I cannot explain the difference.. It's almost life like when playing
AH or any game made within the last 3-4 years..
Now you're making me want to spend more money...stop that!!! :neener: :bolt:
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I ended up going with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059) and I do not regret it. Amazing picture quality.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009167
I bought this Acer about 6 months ago and it's been great . Great image quality and Zero ghosting while gaming . I have been messing around running 1440 X 900 aspect in AH because my 8800 gts isnt quite up to 1920X1080 with AA and hisres .... @ 1440 X900 it gives you a 75 hertz refresh rate which i like .
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009167
I bought this Acer about 6 months ago and it's been great . Great image quality and Zero ghosting while gaming . I have been messing around running 1440 X 900 aspect in AH because my 8800 gts isnt quite up to 1920X1080 with AA and hisres .... @ 1440 X900 it gives you a 75 hertz refresh rate which i like .
I have a G92 8800GTS KO, do you have the G80? If not, I'm running 1920x1080 @ 8Q AA with 60hz rate.
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I have a G92 8800GTS KO, do you have the G80? If not, I'm running 1920x1080 @ 8Q AA with 60hz rate.
Yep its a G80 ....8800GTS 320 . I just picked up a 8800 GTX for cheap (30 bucks) so I'm hoping that will solve the issue . It seems to bench right around the 9800gtx and 8800GTS 512 (G92's) .
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Alright, this thread is old, so it might be too late, but don't buy monitors from Newegg... their return policy for flat panels is terrible. Unless you truely don't care if you have dead pixels. Because you're stuck with any that you have, if you buy from Newegg.
Nextly, check here for good advice on which monitor to buy:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2049206&enterthread=y
He hasn't updated in 6 months, but not a lot changes so its still relevant, and the thread is still active.
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Alright, this thread is old, so it might be too late, but don't buy monitors from Newegg... their return policy for flat panels is terrible. Unless you truely don't care if you have dead pixels. Because you're stuck with any that you have, if you buy from Newegg.
Nextly, check here for good advice on which monitor to buy:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2049206&enterthread=y
He hasn't updated in 6 months, but not a lot changes so its still relevant, and the thread is still active.
It is the Manufacturer's responsibility for returns and I have no problems dealing with ASUS. This is a pristine monitor w/o a single dead pixel. I kept the box this came in for shipping purposes (if the need arises).
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Alright, this thread is old, so it might be too late, but don't buy monitors from Newegg... their return policy for flat panels is terrible. Unless you truely don't care if you have dead pixels. Because you're stuck with any that you have, if you buy from Newegg.
I've never had a problem with Newegg returns...especially within the first 30 days...1 dead pixel or 100. But I don't always buy my monitors from Newegg, just depends on who has the best price...check around for sales.
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For reason's laid out in this thread
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,271054.0.html
I will no longer buy monitor's from NewEgg. Let me be absolutely clear, they did nothing "wrong", as they adhered to their policy, which they are clear about up front and which I was aware of before I bought it.
However, the monitor's response time was (badly!) misrepresented by the manufacturer, and they would not exchange it for another monitor, which left me holding the bag.
So the bottom line for me is that while they may have been within their rights, it was overall an unpleasant experience. As you can get the same monitor's elsewhere for virtually the same price with a return policy, I'll not buy another monitor (or any other non-returnable item) from them.
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I fail to understand how that has any relevance to this thread? I had a 4ms 19" go out on me. I'm not going to purchase a 5ms, let alone an 8ms LCD. I bought a 2ms LCD with 1080p. Spending more at Best Buy for the same thing is just as much "hit or miss" as it is on Newegg.
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Alright, this thread is old, so it might be too late, but don't buy monitors from Newegg... their return policy for flat panels is terrible. Unless you truely don't care if you have dead pixels. Because you're stuck with any that you have, if you buy from Newegg.
Nextly, check here for good advice on which monitor to buy: {snip...}
I was responding to the issue of purchasing from Newegg raised by Boilerdown, and certainly not suggesting you buy an 8 ms monitor - AND definately not the one I did, if you even can - they seemed to have discontinued it in a real hurry anyway.
Nor is the issue the "hit or miss" nature of buying a monitor. The issue is that a "miss" from Bestbuy means a trip back to Bestbuy, while a miss when purchasing one from Newegg means eating the cost of a monitor - Newegg's policy precludes any possibility of a return, which is going to be an issue if the monitor simply doesn't perform adequately (or to the specifications, as in my case).
I should probably focus more attention on quoting the information I'm replying to, in order to prevent misunderstandings, but it seems so, well, redundant!
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I just got that Asus one! Love it! Last week it was not free shipping!! jump on it!! i just ordered it friday and got it today. $8.99 shipping grr. hehe
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I picked that one 2 monthes ago, a blast really.
http://www.iiyama.com/ms_GL/Product/category/2/product/152 (http://www.iiyama.com/ms_GL/Product/category/2/product/152)
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Jay,
so you already got you a Monitor replacement?
I just received my DELL monthly sale paper and the following was in it
Dell ST2410 24” Full HD Widescreen Monitor
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-1070#reviews
on sale for $189.00 with free shipping ( over 200 customer reviews, alot of them refer to gaming and good results )
I was thinking about asking my Daughter to get this for me for an early Birthday gift, just undecided because I currently use a DELL 19" UltraSharp LCD which sold for $500+/- when I got it ( I got it as a perk for HVAC sales, so mine was FREE :D )
I saw one review of a person replacing their 20" UltraSharp and was not satisfied because of the specs on the DELL UltraSharp series
thoughts anyone?
is Aces High ok with HD Monitors ?
also, I saw someone post about using Widescreen 16:10 over 16:9 ratio, saying the 16:10 Aspect Ratio is better for Gaming, Is this correct?
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I went there before I pulled the trigger and that deal wasn't there, or I would have gotten it.
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I went there before I pulled the trigger and that deal wasn't there, or I would have gotten it.
rgr Jay,
did you go with the ASUS you linked to at the top of this thread?
if so, how do you like it?
I am an ASUS fanboi... they have been TOP NOTCH with me regarding support and all the ASUS products i have gotten over the years......
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rgr Jay,
did you go with the ASUS you linked to at the top of this thread?
if so, how do you like it?
I am an ASUS fanboi... they have been TOP NOTCH with me regarding support and all the ASUS products i have gotten over the years......
Johnny, I ended up going with this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059) and I do not regret it. People on Newegg are idiots knocking off an Egg, simply because it takes about 5 seconds to turn on from "Off". On standby it takes only about 2 or 3. I guess some of these people have an umbilical cord attached to their PC.