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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: juzz on December 19, 2000, 11:54:00 PM
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Amen
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BAH as if we need more yankee planes...
Early war does not even include the US.
I am all for early war aircraft, but how about non US ac (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
AKskurj
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Deadly French 1940 Bombers thats what we need, cmon they would look so cool while we blow them all to hell! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Even being blown up French bombers from 1940 were the ugliest things with wings! It is a legacy they'll never live down (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
-Westy
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Frankly being French I'm generally proud of my country (you also are for your own (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)) but when I see the bomber built in the 30's ...I'm ashamed (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Do you know where I can find the URL for the ugly plane site ?
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Talk about an over abundance of US AC..geez.
I fly LW so I'd like to see a DO-17, He-111 and 109E-4.
but better yet, get some more IJA, VVS and RAF AC....Hurricane comes to mind...
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The quality of the box matters little. Success depends upon the man who sits in it - Baron Manfred von Richthofen
[This message has been edited by Wingnut_0 (edited 12-20-2000).]
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I think juzz was being sarcastic (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Straffo,
I'm sure the D.520 would be a great early-war plane.
Thing is we need a Rolling Plane Set, or the vast majority of those AC are worthless..except scenarios.
I really am terrified there never will be one in AH..this "Perk Plane" business seems to be in as a substitute. I worry there's a fear of copying WB too much (err, re-doing it, since it was Pyro and HT who started the RPS over there) and too much of a desire to be different just to be different.
I realize the RPS has been insanely controversial over in WB, but I really loved it (back when I was in WB). The problem is, to make an RPS work you really need a lot of planes well scattered over the span of the war.
I think the RPS would be a nice complement to the perk system......early in the RPS, perk planes could often be one of the later model planes that started out in small quantities, limited combat, etc...or planes that existed in small quantities, like the C Hog (I'd like to see the C Hog as an easy-to-get perk plane someday.)
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I agree with Torgo on the point of the chog being a fairly easy to get perk plane!!
As far as an RPS... I still have to find an aircraft in Aces that I wish to stick with. I hop from aircraft to aircraft and I know it hurts my effectiveness. I am hoping the F6 will be that ride, but for some reason I doubt it.
Here are my requirements:
Speed, must be able to outrun the majority of the AC in the arena.
Guns, gotta be able to carry enough ammo for 5 kills (lol with my aim mebe no such thing exists) and suitable for A-G attacks
Climb, must be at least average to above average in this department.
Ordnance, must be able to carry 2 500's and or rockets at least.
Turn ability, if its not a respectable turner it has to be able to roll, and have good zoom characteristics..
Holy sht.. that sounds like the CHOG!! omg...
damno....
The rps isn't gonna help me at all in finding a permanent ride unless alot of variants are modelled..
AKskurj
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M.C.200, and use M.M. 8462, I own it, sort of :-)
It should almost be easy to do as the wing and tail are the eame as the 202/205
C.R.32
C.R.42
Hurri I, II
Spit I,II
Bf 109 E
FW 190A-1, A-2
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D520
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Dino in Reno
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Lets don't! How about we finish the Late-War and Mid-War sets before we meander off down the early war path.
And God forbid that we ever get a RPS. The one thing I hated the most about WB's over the years.
Sorry guys, just my opinon.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Ehehe, dont worry Verm (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
PYRO will finish the mid-late plane set before switching to early-war stuff. I'm sure. As far as the RPS is concerned, I think it is a good thing. Problem was that the WB's one often sucked.
Anyway, I want my G.55 "Centauro"! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
(http://web.tiscalinet.it/gatt/G.55.jpg)
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Gatt are you sure the RPS would be a good thing? Your fav Italian AC won't be avaliable after September 3, 1943 the time Italy surrender if it was realistic.
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At least with a RPS, the one sortie a month
blokes might actually get to fly the supposed UBER planes.
AT least the historically correct part of complete novices flying them might be satisfied...
and with an early set, might even see a Non-Yank marked P-40 (RNZAF!!)
-tronski-
486 Sqn (NZ)
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[This message has been edited by -tronski- (edited 12-22-2000).]
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Well Torque,
the C.205V (first Series) was operational in early-spring 1943. Actually, few were delivered to squadrons and often there were C.202s and C.205s togheter in flight.
I understand that we should have the C.202 from the end of 1941 till the beginning of 1943. But so it was in those years.
Anyway, the first C.205V were assigned to squadron commanding officers, eheh (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
(http://web.tiscalinet.it/gatt/logo4.gif)
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What I'm actually saying is that no Italian AC will be available after Sept 43 that would leave last quarter of a RPS void of your fav rides. It will be interesting to see how it will be implemented, not that I'm on any crusade just wondering. Sigs keep getting better.
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Italian pilots were flying for their country right to the last day of the war in Europe, methinks.
Eg: the black G.55 pictured above is in ANR colours, not the RA as the Macchis in Aces High are marked. ANR even got some Me 109G-10 and K-4 at the end.
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Brewster Model 239 Buffalo, thank you. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Camo
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where they might be required to demonstrate their superior skill."
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Torque,
the RPS system should let you fly every a/c theoretically operational till that year, not only those of that year. Sorry for my bad english.
Anyway, ANR had C.205V, G.55 and Re.2005 operational till the very end of the war. Moreover, as Juzz said, italians flew Bf109G-6, G-10 and K-4. So we'll not be short of aircraft (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Hmm I find that odd since this Doc says there was immediate cessation of all hostile activity by the Italian armed forces. BTW sorry for my ignorance but what does RA and ANR stand for? Heh gatt your english is better than mine and I am Anglo.
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/war.term/093_01.html (http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/war.term/093_01.html)
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Torque, after the official end to the war with Italy, some Italians continued to fight on the Axis side with the Germans.
Others joined the Allied side and fought against them.
I believe there were actually several encounters where Italians fought Italians later in the war.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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RA= Regia Aeronautica, more or less Royal Air Forces in Italian (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
ANR= Aeronautica Nazionale Republicana or something like that (cant recall,my italian is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay undermodelled (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)).That means Republican National Air Force.
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Negative Verm (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Italian co-belligerant air force had mainly JABO duties against axis forces in Balkans. Many pilots died strafing ground targets.
In the meanwhile ANR fought togheter with Luftwaffe in the defence of Italy against B-17, B-24, Spitfires, P-47, P-51 and P-38. You can imagine how many died trying to intercept escorted bombers without good radars and training.
Italians pilots refused to fight each other.
Dont try to understand us, we are strange people (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Ok I understand now thx fer clearing that up.BTW Gatt all my inlaws are Italian. That's reason for me posting all this because we started talking about a bunch of WWII stuff lastnite and I was getting confused.
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I'd settle for a P-47D-23. Last razorback jug built, slightly faster than the D-25. That would at least be competitive in the MA. And once they have the razorback graphics done, P-47C and early D variants are easily done. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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