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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Raptor on February 15, 2010, 06:11:38 PM
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I apologize to Jolly22 for hijacking his thread, but I was interested to see if the same aircraft remained the most popular after a series of elimination rounds. Jolly said he has Finals from his semester that ends in February(?) so he is going to be busy.
Here are the results (narrowing it down to the top 33 aircraft) of vehicles that received 3 or more votes.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,282655.msg3589037.html#msg3589037
Given the list of the following aircraft, vote for the top 3 you would like to see in Aces High. I will stop tallying votes at 12:01am EST on Monday February 22. Each aircraft will only be counted once per poster
Example:
1.) He-111
2.) He-111
3.) He-111
This will result in the He-111 only being counted once.
You may choose from the following:
A26
Beaufighter
Boomerang
Crusader III
D.520
D4Y
Do-217
G.50
G.55
G4M2
He-111
J2M
Ju-52
Ju87-G2
Ki-27
Ki-43
Ki-45
Lagg-3
M18
M3 Stuart
Me-410
Meteor
Mig-3
P61
Panzer III
PBY
Pe-2
SM-79
Spitfire MkII
Wellington
Whirlwind
Yak-1
Yak3
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1. Beaufighter
2. G4M2
3. Ki-43
with honorable mention going to the He-111
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1.) Mig-3
2.) He-111
3.) Ki-43
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1. G.55
2. Ki-43
3. Yak-3
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Thanks raptor, kinda lifts a weight. But ill make the graphs after you get all results in....
LaGG-3
G.55
Beaufighter
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1.Crusader III
2.He-111
3.Panzer III
(Id also like to see some others more but these are the top 3 id like to see from the list.)
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In no particular order, I'd have to narrow the top-3 down to:
G.55
Me410
He111
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He-111
Beaufighter
Ki-100
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1)HE-1111
2)G4M2
3)Pe-2
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1. g55
2.Yak 3
3.Panzer111
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1) He-111
2) G4M2
3) Ki-43
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G4M2
Beaufighter
Ki-43
Maybe a P38H too. :)
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Ki-43
G4M2
KI-27 (AVG Scenarios)
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He-111
D4Y
Beaufighter
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1. HE-111
2. Beaufighter at least 3 to 4 variant types.
3. G4M2
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m-18
yak-3
mig-3
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1. Yak-3
2. JU87-G2
3. PBY
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1. Beaufighter
2. Pe-2
3. Ju52 or it's Russian counterpart Li-2 - troop carriers - both armed with mg(s)
....cheers eh! :D
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1. Me 410
2. HE-111
3. Beau
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1. Beaufighter
2. P61
3. Meteor
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In no particular order...
G.55
Me410
Yak-3
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1) Spitfire Mk. II
2) Beaufighter
3) P61
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P63 Kingcobra...
Yak-3
Me410
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P63 Kingcobra...
Hey now! :aok
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G4M2
Beaufighter
Ki-43
Maybe a P38H too. :)
DITTO +1
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1. G4M2
2. Ki-43
3. Pe-2
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1. He-111
2. Beaufighter
3. P-61 Black Widow
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1) Ki-43
2) G4M2
3) D4Y
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1. P-61
2. G.55
3. Ki-43
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Ju87G-1 or 2 with 12 rounds each gun
Boomerang
Me-410
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1. LaGG-3
2. MiG-3
3. Yak-3
Maybe I have a bias :D
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1)Beaufighter
2)He-111
3)Do-217
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1. He-111
2. G.55
3. PBY
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G.55
Boomerang
Pe-2
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1. he-111
2. Ki-43
3. G.55
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And the winner is!...PBY black Cats! ....can drop mines..torps... pick up down pilots for saved and gained perks! carries troops for capture... and even land it on the CV!'
Start the chant PBY PBY PBY !
999000 <S>
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1) M18 yes yes yes
2) Crusader *IV***
3) either the Ju87G2 or the HE111
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1. A26
2. MiG-3
3. Yak-3
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1.) He-111
2.) G4M2 Betty
3.) Ju-87 G-2
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any KI planes will do
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PzkwIII
M-3 Stuart
KI-43
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He-111
A-26
yak-3
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1)P61
2)JU52
3)PBY
highly doubt they'll be added though :(
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Beaufighter
Ki-43
He-111
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Ki-43
He-111
Pe-2
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1 Beaufighter
2 Boomerang
3 he 111
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1. P-61
2. He-111
3. Beaufighter
But we get WWI instead...
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Beaufighter
D.520
He-111
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1-ju87-g2
2-p61
3-pby
4-sm-79
5-me-410
in that order.
Should have a separate poll for vehicles only
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1.) He-111
2.) G.55
3.) Me-410
:salute 11
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1) Yak3
2) Beaufighter
3) PBY
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I.A.R. 81c
G4M
Mig-3
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1)He-111
2)PBY
3)Ki-45
PAC Events really needs the A6M3. We are good for 1941 or 42, but after that we have to sub in the A6M5. Sorry, just had to say it.
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1) He-111 For scenario's and FSO
2) G4M2 Betty For scenario's and FSO
3) PBY Would be cool if you could land and take off from the water
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1. Me 410
2. Do 217
3. Ju 52 (edited - yeah Ju 54 - alright! :rolleyes: )
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1. Ki43
2. G4M2
3. He-111
Amazingly, no one said anything about WWI. That does not bode well for that arena.
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A26
PBY
Yak3
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No one wants the brit jet?
cmon meteor
we gots enuff hanga queens already.
froger
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1) G.55
2) Yak3
3) Ki-43
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1) Ki-43 (we have huge holes in the Jap fleet)
2) Yak3 (we still have holes in the russian fleet as well)
3) Beaufighter (mostly sentimental reasons because I love the plane, but german bombers is a bigger hole).
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For those asking for the Ju 87G-2, you're better off asking for the G-1. The G-1 was based on the D-3, which is the version we have in game. It wouldn't take creating a new 3D plane model to get the G-1, it would just be an ordnance package. The G-2 was based off the D-5, which is different enough that it would mean creating a new 3D plane model. I think HTC would be more open to the idea of adding a plane if they don't need to do much work, like they did with the P-47M.
ack-ack
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G.55
J2M
Me 410
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1.)Yak3
2.)P-61
3.)He-111
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KI43
Yak3
Ju52
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1. SM-79
2. JU-52
3. He-111
you have to love the 3 engines design ;)
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D.520 - Dewotine its French and was their top line fighter at the outbreak.
G.55
Yak3
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1. Me410
2. Ju52
3. He-111
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HE 111
ME 410
Beaufighter
Nutz
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Yak-3 :banana:
KI-43 :aok
M-18 :x
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Yak-3 :banana:
KI-43 :aok
M-18 :x
Same :cheers:
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1. Me410
2. Do217
3. He111
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1. He-111
2. G4M2
3. G.55
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(1) D-520 THIS IS AN OBVIOUS choice. There are NO French aircraft in the game. This plane was also used by the Luftwaffe after the fall of France.
(2) Yak-3 Great plane, large production numbers---a glaring omission.
(3) G-55 (Italian planes needed)
Swordfish should be on list.
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hey ho lets go
HE111 (an Absolut must have especially for the classic BoB scenario)
YAK 3 (the best russian fighter!)
KI 43 (needed for good Pacific action)
S!
dhyran
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A26
He-111
PBY
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1. He-111
2. J2M
3. G4M2
I would prefer that HTC finish updating the existing aircraft first though. The old cockpit art (esp. P-40) is way below standard now.
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1.) Beaufighter
2.) Ki-27
3.) G.50
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Ugh...
The Ki-27. Really? Sure, for scenarios, but a couple of .30 cals and a cruising speed of what, 200kts? Just up an sbd, heh....
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1.) He-111
2.) MiG-3
3.) Yak-3
4.) Bf-109G-6 A/S
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1) HE-111
2)JU-52
3)Spitfire Mk II
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1.)G.55
2.)Yak 3
3.)A-26
That wil cover the specktrum in terms of attack fighter variant.
<S>
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For those asking for the Ju 87G-2, you're better off asking for the G-1. The G-1 was based on the D-3, which is the version we have in game. It wouldn't take creating a new 3D plane model to get the G-1, it would just be an ordnance package. The G-2 was based off the D-5, which is different enough that it would mean creating a new 3D plane model. I think HTC would be more open to the idea of adding a plane if they don't need to do much work, like they did with the P-47M.
ack-ack
Either way we need cannons on that Stuka for killing GVS
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1) He-111 For scenario's and FSO
2) G4M2 Betty For scenario's and FSO
3) PBY Would be cool if you could land and take off from the water
Oh yes...pby taking off from water using PT spawn points, and have the ability to resupply bases, resupply cvs, resupply LVTS and scoop up downed pilots. AWESOME!!!!! Forget the WW1 arena and get started on these planes....lol
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1. Beaufighter
2. G4M2
3. Ki-43
with honorable mention going to the He-111
+1
I think you can blow off new planes for awhile though. This year will be spent trying to get WWI up and running.
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I'd like to see a few sets filled out for FSO/Scenario use.. just my thoughts only
1. Beaufighter
2. D.520
3. G.50
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I like that Ki-43 but we know it's going to be a hangar queen but for scenario work. OTOH, thanks be to Addink for the KI-67. That was a good add (though I don't fly it). I had a "negative experience" with some of those. I figured they'd be like the G4M "Ronson Lighter" and charged in very carelessly - with predictable results.
I wonder how many people actually work on the plane addition process? It's got to be labor intensive. I was thinking about some of the tasks involved...
finding/resolving conflicting test data
sorting through model complexity
coding the flight model ( I wonder if they have a parametric type flight model to hasten this work)
preparing the graphics model
preparing surfaces/skins - including the cockpit/interior views
validating/debugging this instance of the model
flight testing the model
blar, blar, blar... I used to do a lot of ADAMS dynamics work and I appreciate the workload of dynamic models even as I acknowledge that their model isn't likely of similar function, especially given those input tables they use.
Meanwhile, I suspect staff if something like 10 people, given that the monthly revenue cannot be more than about $100k - unless I grossly underestimate the size of the subscriber base. All costs likely have to come out of that, unless they're also growth-funded somehow.
I'd really like to know a little more about the company. I think they really do nice work, all things considered.
researching/adding all the armament/ordnance
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1..Ju87-G2.. :pray
2..G.55
3..Me-410
. tho some models we already have can us some updates..
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For those asking for the Ju 87G-2, you're better off asking for the G-1. The G-1 was based on the D-3, which is the version we have in game. It wouldn't take creating a new 3D plane model to get the G-1, it would just be an ordnance package. The G-2 was based off the D-5, which is different enough that it would mean creating a new 3D plane model. I think HTC would be more open to the idea of adding a plane if they don't need to do much work, like they did with the P-47M.
ack-ack
I think most of us know that and a d-3 would be fine.
The sticking point for me is the loadout, if it dose not have 12 rounds per gun ....I'm not interested
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1) Ki-43
2)Beaufighter
3)HE-111
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g55
de520
ki100
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1. Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 Sparviero (Sparrowhawk)
2. Ilyushin IL-4
3. Kawanishi H8K (Emily)
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HE111
Me-410
Beaufighter
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0. Ju-87 w\37mm
1. G.55
2. Ki-43
3. Yak-3
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1. Ki-43
2. Yak-3
3. HE-111
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A-26
He-111
KI-84lb :airplane:
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I think most of us know that and a d-3 would be fine.
The sticking point for me is the loadout, if it dose not have 12 rounds per gun ....I'm not interested
Consdiring that the majority of those adding the Ju 87 have been putting the G-2 down, I don't think most know that. We are more likely to get the 37mm package if it doesn't take too much development time.
ack-ack
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This is a purely "What I would like to see" poll regardless of modeling time. The G-2 got more votes than the G-1 so it moved from the nomination round to the first elimination round.
WW1 planes were mentioned but again, did not get the votes. Anything not on the list will not be counted, nor will double posts be counted.
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1. A-26
2. He-111
3. (just for fun) B-29 with NOOOOOKS! :rofl
Sorry, didn't think anyone had posted for a nooked B-29 yet this year. I wanted to be the first :D
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1. Beaufighter
2. D.520
3. A26
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1. Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 Sparviero (Sparrowhawk)
2. Ilyushin IL-4
3. Kawanishi H8K (Emily)
First one I've seen for the Emily... The Flyin' Porcupine would be nice. How long 'til someone asks for a Mitsu A7m?
That raises the issue of seaplanes en general. Once we've got the Emily, how about an N1K1 or a SeaWolf?
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Catalina
In game maybe to resupply CVs :D
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Anything not on the list will not be counted, nor will double posts be counted.
Where did this "list" come from??
KI-84lb :noid
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Sure seeing a lot of votes on he-111, Beaufighter, Ki-43 and Yak 3. in that order.
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Here are the results (narrowing it down to the top 33 aircraft) of vehicles that received 3 or more votes.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,282655.msg3589037.html#msg3589037
Given the list of the following aircraft, vote for the top 3 you would like to see in Aces High. I will stop tallying votes at 12:01am EST on Monday February 22. Each aircraft will only be counted once per poster.
You may choose from the following:
A26
Beaufighter
Boomerang
Crusader III
D.520
D4Y
Do-217
G.50
G.55
G4M2
He-111
J2M
Ju-52
Ju87-G2
Ki-27
Ki-43
Ki-45
Lagg-3
M18
M3 Stuart
Me-410
Meteor
Mig-3
P61
Panzer III
PBY
Pe-2
SM-79
Spitfire MkII
Wellington
Whirlwind
Yak-1
Yak3
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Even a barebones list comes down to 11 AC that I consider essential. A26,Beaufighter,D4Y,G4M2,He-111,Ki-43,Ki-45,Me-410,PBY,Pe-2. To try to bring that down to just 3 AC is incredibly hard. And the 3 I would most love to fly are not the 3 I think are most needed in game.
My vote goes to
G4M2
Pe-2
D4y
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1.He-111
2.Panzer III Ausf H
3.M-3 Stuart
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1. He-111
2. A-26
3. PBY
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Ki43
G4m
He111
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Meteor
J2M
G4M2
Why a Spit II? Isn't it basically a Spit I + 120 HP?
wrongway
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Why a Spit II? Isn't it basically a Spit I + 120 HP?
Yes, and I have no idea why it is on the list.
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Yes, and I have no idea why it is on the list.
My guess is since Raptor is in the 80th and so is Dan. That "SpitII" was supposed to be the "Spit Mk XII". Just a damn good guess and I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
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1. Beaufighter
2. He-111
3. M-18
4. SHEEP
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1. Beaufighter
2. He-111
3. M-18
4. SHEEP
SHEEP dressed like a PBY
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Flying boat armed to the teeth would be fun :old:
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would be nice to see an allied jet plane to counter the 262
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Even a barebones list comes down to 11 AC that I consider essential. A26,Beaufighter,D4Y,G4M2,He-111,Ki-43,Ki-45,Me-410,PBY,Pe-2. To try to bring that down to just 3 AC is incredibly hard. And the 3 I would most love to fly are not the 3 I think are most needed in game.
My vote goes to
G4M2
Pe-2
D4y
from the 11 you posted, HE-111 has the most vote with Beaufighter 2nd and Ki-43 trailing.
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Yak-3
MiG-3
Ki-43
All three of those aircraft had high production numbers and saw a lot of action. It's a shame we don't have them already.
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A26
He111
Beaufighter
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My guess is since Raptor is in the 80th and so is Dan. That "SpitII" was supposed to be the "Spit Mk XII". Just a damn good guess and I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
No, somebody else asked for it in his thread in the Wishlist forum. The list he has here are just the things that got three or more votes in his other thread, not his choices specifically.
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Lagg-3
Pe-2
G4M2
I still want the Westland Whirlwind, for gits and shiggles.
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Meteor
Mig-3
Yak-3
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1. A26
2. HE-111
3. ME-410
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Ok love the PBY idea, the HE111 has great merit...........but this is a game..... so lets go out of the box...think FUN FUN FUN...lets get those Normady invasion gliders!!!! with a wide assorment from small gv's jeeps, tanks, troops, supplies, howlitzer cannon, and our first flame thrower to burn the hangers down!
9999000 <S>
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Oh lord he wants a flamethrower in his B17. We re doomed
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1: M18
2: A26
3: He-111
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he-111
ki-43
me-410
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As much as I'd love to see the A26 and/or the P61
I'd have to say that for now we already have enough American and British planes.
And the one plane we DONT need is yet another spit variant.
I'd favor the 410.
More Japaneese. German,Soviet, French, Italian, etc. fighters/transports/bombers
also some alternates to some of our GVs
Sd Kfz 234/2
Sd Kfz 234/3 Schwerer Panzerspähwagen
or Sd.Kfz. 234/4
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Munster_SdKfz234_4_side_%28dark1%29.jpg)
Sd.Kfz.251-1D
(http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Images/1-Vehicles/08-Halftracks/2-Sd.Kfz.251/Sd.Kfz.251-1D/p1.jpg)
Sd.Kfz.251-21
(http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Images/1-Vehicles/08-Halftracks/2-Sd.Kfz.251/Sd.KFz.251-21/p1.jpg)
Sd.Kfz.10 (taking down towns)
(http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Images/1-Vehicles/08-Halftracks/3-Tractors/DemagPak38/p1.jpg)
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My vote (forgive me the italian, russian fans and all GVers)
1.) He-111
2.) G4M2
3.) D.520
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1. KI-43
2. KI-45
3. G4M2
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Consdiring that the majority of those adding the Ju 87 have been putting the G-2 down, I don't think most know that. We are more likely to get the 37mm package if it doesn't take too much development time.
ack-ack
....or maybe that was the choice?
You may choose from the following:
<snip>
He-111
J2M
Ju-52
Ju87-G2
Ki-27
<snip>
I think they know what they want. As I said last... a D-3 would be great with 12 rounds each gun.
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Dale says the new planeis going to be a............. SUB! ............yeahaaaaaaa! FUN FUN FUN
999000 <S>
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Ki-43
G4M2
J2M
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A-26
He-111
P-61
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1. He-111
2. Ki-43
3. Pe-2
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P61
Yak 3
111
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As much as I'd love to see the A26 and/or the P61
I'd have to say that for now we already have enough American and British planes.
And the one plane we DONT need is yet another spit variant.
I'd favor the 410.
More Japaneese. German,Soviet, French, Italian, etc. fighters/transports/bombers
also some alternates to some of our GVs
Sd Kfz 234/2
Sd Kfz 234/3 Schwerer Panzerspähwagen
or Sd.Kfz. 234/4
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Munster_SdKfz234_4_side_%28dark1%29.jpg)
Sd.Kfz.251-1D
(http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Images/1-Vehicles/08-Halftracks/2-Sd.Kfz.251/Sd.Kfz.251-1D/p1.jpg)
Sd.Kfz.251-21
(http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Images/1-Vehicles/08-Halftracks/2-Sd.Kfz.251/Sd.KFz.251-21/p1.jpg)
Sd.Kfz.10 (taking down towns)
(http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Images/1-Vehicles/08-Halftracks/3-Tractors/DemagPak38/p1.jpg)
need a german armored car for sure
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1. A26, A26, A26, A26, A26 ( oops only once ) :x
2. HE-111
3. JU-87G2
Thanks
HP51 :bolt:
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1. Ki-43
2. Pe-2
3. Yak-1b
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I am aiming to narrow it down to 10, currently I have a clear top 10 list. Keep them coming
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1) He-111
2) Ki-43
3) Yak-3 (anything that won't be a LWA hanger queen)
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1) Beaufighter
2) Boomerang
3) Spitfire MK II ( Can never have too many Spitfires )
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1) Meteor
2) G4M2
3) He-111
best.
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He-111
G4m2
Ju-52
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Meteor
Yak3
A26.
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Wot, still no Fairey Swordfish? Ah well, here's my three from the list offered:
1. Wellington III
2. Ki-43-II
3. Beaufighter Mk.VI
:cool:
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The models I would like to see are :
1)He-111
2)Gloster Meteor
3)Crusader III
:airplane: :old:
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1 Beaufighter
2 HE 111
3 M 18
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1. Me-410
2. Pe-2
3. Yak-1
The 410 doesn't really fill out any new role we don't have covered aleady, but it has always been my favourite aircraft, so there.
For the last two spots I could just as easily have taken Japanese or italian planes, but again I'm leaning towards my main interest and goes with VVS. Didn't know if I should go with the Yak-1 or LaGG-3. The Pe-2 will get rid of all that lend-lease substitution we always get when the Soviet side needs a tactical bomber in scenarios. At least I would also be using it in MA instead of B-25/A-20.
I don't really understand the big interest for the Yak-3. The difference between the wartime version and our Yak-9U isn't that big.
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B29........might be the most produce aircraft not in the game?
999000....PBY's and towed gliders again please.
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B29........might be the most produce aircraft not in the game?
999000....PBY's and towed gliders again please.
There are numerous aircraft with higher production that are not in the game.
To list a few:
Beaufighter
Halifax
He111
Ki-43
Pe-2
Wellington
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Should have a vehicle and plane poll seperately.
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B29........might be the most produce aircraft not in the game?
More P-40Ns were built than (by far) than all of the B-29s built in total, and about half the B-29 totals are post-war!
We sent more P-39s to Russia, than we did B-29s to Tokyo ;)
Let me put it this way....
We built more P-63 King Cobras than we did B-29s during WW2!
If anything, it's one of the more rare planes (numerically speaking) built by the US.
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Should have a vehicle and plane poll seperately.
Apparently more people want more airplanes than more vehicles.
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Apparently more people want more airplanes than more vehicles.
Your list had more plane choices then vehicle choices.
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It's all about The Language of Propaganda sir! :old:
Your list had more plane choices then vehicle choices.
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1. Meteor Mk:III (I hope hats what you mean by meteor)
2. A26
3. SM-97
I want them all but this is my vote.
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Talk about last second voting 1carbine, beat the time limit by 27 seconds :aok
I was trying to break down the list to a top ten list, but there was a tie for tenth place and will make the next round from the top 11.
Here are the results:
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7889/pollm.jpg)
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LOL, no vote for the whirlwind.
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Talk about last second voting 1carbine, beat the time limit by 27 seconds :aok
I was trying to break down the list to a top ten list, but there was a tie for tenth place and will make the next round from the top 11.
Here are the results:
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7889/pollm.jpg)
Wow I did awesome for me forgot about the time limit any way 27 seconds away from looking like a complete idiot :banana:
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Your list had more plane choices then vehicle choices.
My list came from recommendations made by people. I was surprised the Panther was not mentioned, my ultimate goal is to find out how the voting pattern changes as the list is narrowed down (sparked from a discussion between myself and Karnak over the Yak-3).
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my vote stay the same
1)P61
2)JU52
3)PBY
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**New Round of Voting -- New Thread**
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,284137.0/topicseen.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,284137.0/topicseen.html)
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Me-410, Meteor, G 55
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More P-40Ns were built than (by far) than all of the B-29s built in total, and about half the B-29 totals are post-war!
We sent more P-39s to Russia, than we did B-29s to Tokyo ;)
Let me put it this way....
We built more P-63 King Cobras than we did B-29s during WW2!
If anything, it's one of the more rare planes (numerically speaking) built by the US.
Mr. Krusty, you raised the topic, recently, in another thread about new planes, of some late-war myth regarding some late-war Japanese tin being "uber". As you recounted, skeptically, there's always some stories out there about some Ki-100 or other such ac being challenged by 16 Hellcats and sending 'em all home in a box.
You're correct, of course, to be skeptical of any such myth. However, I was able to find what I think to be the basis for the myth. Consider the following tale and tell me if you think an exaggerated version forms the basis for all these late-war Japanese Cyber-Oni ac:
Although only 1,400 N1K1-Js were built, codenamed George, due mainly to landing gear and engine problems, the George was probably the fastest, and most maneuverable Japanese naval fighter of the war. In the hands of a veteran pilot it was a formidable adversary, particularly the later models with four 20mm wing cannon. It possessed good range (1,375 miles) and although maximum speed was under 370 mph. its handling was sterling. Because the power of its Homare 21 engine fell off rapidly at high altitudes, it was of little use against high flying B-29s, but against F6Fs and F4Us in middle and low altitude dogfights, it was spectacular. In February 1945, a lone Japanese ace, Warrant Officer Kinsuke Muto, engaged a dozen F6F Hellcats, single-handed, while flying a George. He destroyed four and forced the others to break off.
These last minute heroics, however, were the beginning of the end of Japan's aviation industry. While her newer fighters proved too little and too late, Japan persisted in building twin-engined fighters such as the Ki 44 Nick, which, despite improvements, still was basically an obsolete heavy fighter on the order of the German Me 110, one that could not maneuver with its single-seat counterparts. The naval air program also continued down the same engineering cul de sac. As the war news became grimmer, Japan introduced yet another three man torpedo and/or dive bomber. Also doubling as reconnaissance machines, these newcomers, such as the Yokosuka D4Y Judy, were generally slower than enemy fighters and, due to a lack of escorts, suffered heavily, even though they had a top speed of 350 mph.
<end excerpt> That's from a slightly shabby source (Airpower Mag) and I disagree about the N1K2 being "most maneuverable (clearly wrong on the basis of turn rate) but I can verify the story from other, more reputable but less colorful sources - e.g., http://books.google.com/booksid=MuGsf0psjvcC&pg=PA288&lpg=PA288&dq=kinsuke+muto+N1K2&source=bl&ots=K4YCCfRF6G&sig=dBROzw_aDkO77XSgLQaBMsWnUQY&hl=en&ei=P4eCS-bFGMWInQfylfHDBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CBkQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=kinsuke%20muto%20N1K2&f=false
So, imj, that's probably the real story behind the myth. Your skepticism is thus justified, for 4 of 12 Hellcats ain't 16 - though, credit Muto with a lot of skill and some big brass balls.
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My list came from recommendations made by people. I was surprised the Panther was not mentioned, my ultimate goal is to find out how the voting pattern changes as the list is narrowed down (sparked from a discussion between myself and Karnak over the Yak-3).
That's because you should have a vehicle and plane poll seperately.
Otherwise great idea on getting people's votes.
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my vote stay the same
1)P61
2)JU52
3)PBY
PBY with depth charges...drop close to a ship and implode the hull
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Fact of the matter is I think more people want to see aircraft than the vehicles. If I created two separate polls then would narrow it down to most wanted aircraft and most wanted vehicle, but that would be misleading because more people would want the aircraft than the vehicle
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The only problem with this is that you're not polling a representative sample of all Aces High players. I'm certain that if this were conducted in game, the results would be thoroughly different, because the people who actually pay attention to the boards are going to have different views to those that don't.
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The only problem with this is that you're not polling a representative sample of all Aces High players. I'm certain that if this were conducted in game, the results would be thoroughly different, because the people who actually pay attention to the boards are going to have different views to those that don't.
Too bad for them.
Plan or be planned.
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Yak -3
G.55
D. 520
reading the forums is a normal part of playing any mmo. . . the only people who do not are either 1) non-english readers (legitimate9 or playing this game as some sort of airplane sim with perks.
not reading the boards means those people don't care - and thats their choise.
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not reading the boards means those people don't care - and thats their choise.
i didnt know there WAS a BBS until i had been playing for 6 months. i played the game every night, so how is that a valid statement?
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i didnt know there WAS a BBS until i had been playing for 6 months. i played the game every night, so how is that a valid statement?
Yes, but now you know.
Consider yourself as being in the skilled position of one who has escalated the ladder. The perspective of those who have not will be lless informed anyway - so why include them?
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Now how did the A-26 not make it to a final list???????????
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Now how did the A-26 not make it to a final list???????????
See round 2 results
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,284137.150.html
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these two are the biggest omissions:
1>He-111
2>Ki-43
and just so there can be a "real" jet-fight:
3>Meteor