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Title: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Slade on February 16, 2010, 09:07:04 PM
In no particular order:


I am not really trying to make my score higher its just that...I don't care.  I know I have brain damage not to want to spend every moment of the game trying to improve my score but that is just how I am wired.  So I'd like to formally apologize for this huge flaw.  Furthermore, I'd like to apologize for that last apology.  That was really uncalled for.

Oh and there is this other small thing.  Chuck Norris spoke to me in a dream and told me not to play for score.

Slade  :salute
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: 68ZooM on February 16, 2010, 09:14:05 PM
Theres a scoring system ???  :headscratch:  :joystick:


(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/1237811519_chuck-norris-approves.gif)
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Max on February 16, 2010, 09:51:16 PM
Good Grief Slade...you mean you actually play Aces High just to have fun??????????? :huh
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: 1sum41 on February 16, 2010, 09:58:19 PM
thats why i made my own squad. H.F.T.P here for the party... :rock :rock
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: W7LPNRICK on February 16, 2010, 10:57:34 PM
I met Chuck Norris(Back in the Day), I used to work for him & Mike Dillard of "Dillards" fame at Century Martial Arts supply. If you've ever looked at "Black Belt" magazine you've seen Chuck Norris advertising Century M.A.S.  :D
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: BaldEagl on February 16, 2010, 11:06:17 PM
Wow.  A post to justify your suckage.  You must be good!   :D

Seriously, none of those are good excuses.  I used to do all the same things and still made the overall top 10-15 consistantly.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Banshee7 on February 16, 2010, 11:16:55 PM
Ok, I'll add the kicker that makes it all possible...he flies for fun, not score :P
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: maddafinga on February 16, 2010, 11:23:23 PM
Wait.....They keep score??


Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Krusty on February 16, 2010, 11:33:29 PM
I use the rearm pad all the time...

In fact it HURTS your score to use the rearm pad.

kills/time is a major factor in the score-milkers, they just auger/die instantly and reup (faster that way).


I think hotpadding is fun. I once had a 1.5 hour P-40E sortie, where I found a little action, the fight went away, and flew to hotpad, flew off to another place where my squaddies were fighting, had to hotpad again (I wasn't taking full fuel) and then flew another fight there!

Hotpads are just plain fun. Especially if you're slightly damaged, but not enough to stop you from challenging yourself.


P.S. "I burn off pesky .303 rounds" <-- makes you sound more dweeby, when the point of the thread was to sound less dweeby.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Yeager on February 17, 2010, 12:15:30 AM
kills/time is a major factor in the score-milkers, they just auger/die instantly and reup (faster that way).
The scoring system HTC designed still just doesnt make sense to me.  It seems to promote poor gameplay.  The more I come to understand it the more I dislike it.  I still havent been able to find the write up here on the HTC websight that even attempts to explain the mechancics of it. 
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: guncrasher on February 17, 2010, 12:15:44 AM
its all about fun.  wish there was a way to rank people based on how much fun they had and not how many kills they got. but before you guys start hijacking this thread, it would be mandatory to fly with clothes on (of the same sex you believe you are  :rofl) and with less than a 12 pack of beer   :cheers:.

semp
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Krusty on February 17, 2010, 12:19:13 AM
The scoring system HTC designed still just doesnt make sense to me.  It seems to promote poor gameplay.  The more I come to understand it the more I dislike it.

QFT!




(although there are a couple of explanations of how it works, just not why it works the way it works)
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: kilz on February 17, 2010, 12:25:03 AM
In no particular order:

  • I don't use the rearm pad.
  • I fly all my flights as a fighter (not a small set as fighter and the rest attack).
  • I don't tend to fly uber planes.
  • Some planes I fly take all week just to get to 8k.  I have to get out and push sometimes.
  • I burn off those pesky .303\7.x mm rounds before taking off.
  • Sometimes I parachute down and give 6 calls for a while just for fun.
  • I always respond to a call for help (even if I am bringing kills home).
  • I play for fun and to be silly.  This game is like therapy for me.

I am not really trying to make my score higher its just that...I don't care.  I know I have brain damage not to want to spend every moment of the game trying to improve my score but that is just how I am wired.  So I'd like to formally apologize for this huge flaw.  Furthermore, I'd like to apologize for that last apology.  That was really uncalled for.

Oh and there is this other small thing.  Chuck Norris spoke to me in a dream and told me not to play for score.

Slade  :salute

looking for a squad? ? ?
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: texastc316 on February 17, 2010, 12:45:31 AM
Why I Will Never Have the High Score 


I suck.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Getback on February 17, 2010, 12:55:54 AM
You don't have to be good to get a high score and you can have fun while doing it.

I guess the cutoff for me is when score is more important than helping my fellow countrymen. On the other hand jumping into every suicide mission is not fun either nor is it fun to constantly do what others think you should be doing.

Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Redd on February 17, 2010, 02:06:20 AM

Without scoring people would have to post photos and measurements of their noodle, and that could get ugly  ;)

Some people play for score and some people don't , doesn't really matter either way , whatever spins your wheels.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: dhyran on February 17, 2010, 02:31:45 AM
In no particular order:

  • I don't use the rearm pad.
  • I fly all my flights as a fighter (not a small set as fighter and the rest attack).
  • I don't tend to fly uber planes.
  • Some planes I fly take all week just to get to 8k.  I have to get out and push sometimes.
  • I burn off those pesky .303\7.x mm rounds before taking off.
  • Sometimes I parachute down and give 6 calls for a while just for fun.
  • I always respond to a call for help (even if I am bringing kills home).
  • I play for fun and to be silly.  This game is like therapy for me.

I am not really trying to make my score higher its just that...I don't care.  I know I have brain damage not to want to spend every moment of the game trying to improve my score but that is just how I am wired.  So I'd like to formally apologize for this huge flaw.  Furthermore, I'd like to apologize for that last apology.  That was really uncalled for.

Oh and there is this other small thing.  Chuck Norris spoke to me in a dream and told me not to play for score.

Slade  :salute

well, you registered Feb. 2009, to earn some nice scores you need to walk down the road for 24 month
lets talk it over after that time......
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: zack1234 on February 17, 2010, 02:53:42 AM
I am to ugly to score with chicks :old:
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 17, 2010, 03:19:24 AM


Some people play for score and some people don't , doesn't really matter either way , whatever spins your wheels.

Exactly. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Lusche on February 17, 2010, 05:47:18 AM
I still havent been able to find the write up here on the HTC websight that even attempts to explain the mechancics of it.  

Help section, topic: Scoring

http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/scoring.html


Without scoring people would have to post photos and measurements of their noodle, and that could get ugly  ;)

Snailman looking down.... ugh  :uhoh  :cry
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Slade on February 17, 2010, 06:15:47 AM
I'd like to apologize for my post.  It was an attempt to make an excuse for how bad a virtual pilot I am.  There is no excuse.  The recurring dreams with Chuck Norris don't help either.

I am a silliness dweeb if you have not figured it out.  :)  The point of this post is - it has no point.  Just to be silly.  Not trying to change or judge anyone.  :old:  You (or your parents) spend the $ for this game.  As long as you fly within the rules AH sets forth go have a ball.  :aok

Quote
well, you registered Feb. 2009,...
BTW, I have been playing this game far longer than the name the BBS shows.  After I learned the level of effort and funky techniques some (I said some) folks use to get high scores I decided it was not for me.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Impakt on February 17, 2010, 06:29:13 AM
    First, let me applaud and  :salute your healthy attitude. With that said I do think the truth is people enjoy the game for different reasons. Unlike real life---in a game of paid subscriptions it is alright to pursue what floats one's boat relentlessly. It would be great if people simply accepted that we play for different reasons---I'm thinking of all the plaintive and angry comments by the "base grabbers" about "winning" so we can have a "groundhog day" reset.
    
   I've actually changed a bit on this issue over the years. I used to simply fly the rides that interested me: C-205, Yak 9-U, P-40E, F4F-4. I "turned and burned" and re-upped. The last few ToDs I've consciously set out to have a "good" fighter score (relative to my past). I've gotten the fighter K/d to 3.0 (good for me), BUT I'm guilty of uber rides and "fighter/ attack" manipulation (attack K/D 1.6). On the one hand IT IS FUN to worry about the RTB---on the other hand I miss simply flying rides I like. Of course, I can always revert to my old ways in future ToDs. I ALWAYS give 6 calls when I see them and I try and help others. There are quite a few clueless people out there who don't now how to give or accept help---but I try and grin and bear it. Examples: I had a guy plea for help---I nosed below the clouds and he was IN THE ACK of an enemy large air base surrounded by LA-7s. I came down---shooed away the La-s and he broke back into the ack to be killed. I now had 3 Las chasing me on the deck. OR--the guy who breaks hard so you CAN"T clear his six (yes---I've done that as a newb).  OR----recently I saved two guys arses getting myself in a tad of trouble doing so. What did they do? Left me with a con on my 6 (one that had been on theirs) to hound an easy kill set of low B-26s. They added on F-12 "hold on Impaktt we gotta finish these low buffs". :confused: :confused: Anyway---I still always try and help.  :headscratch: :salute
    
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: uptown on February 17, 2010, 06:59:02 AM
I have no score because i got a job  :furious
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 17, 2010, 08:54:45 AM
Are you having fun?

If yes. Then congradulations. You just scored.

Scoring is misleading. Yes there are some really great high ranking players . But
I've come across some really REALLY good sticks who I never saw break 1K in ranking.
I've also seen some with fairly high ranking who would have problems getting out of a wet paper bag made of toilet paper without 5 people to help them
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Bucky73 on February 17, 2010, 09:08:27 AM
Wow.  A post to justify your suckage.  You must be good!   :D

Seriously, none of those are good excuses.  I used to do all the same things and still made the overall top 10-15 consistantly.


 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Estes on February 17, 2010, 09:26:49 AM
i just play to shoot stuff down. ive tried on a few different occasions to get a better score, but oddly enough i usually have a better score when i dont try for score.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: stodd on February 17, 2010, 09:35:19 AM
i just play to shoot stuff down. ive tried on a few different occasions to get a better score, but oddly enough i usually have a better score when i dont try for score.
:huh...Weirdo   :devil
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: waystin2 on February 17, 2010, 09:39:34 AM
WTG on just having fun.  As I have said before when I just fly to get into the battle and don't sweat the score stuff, my score usually goes lower anyway. :aok
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Reschke on February 17, 2010, 09:40:07 AM
OR----recently I saved two guys arses getting myself in a tad of trouble doing so. What did they do? Left me with a con on my 6 (one that had been on theirs) to hound an easy kill set of low B-26s. They added on F-12 "hold on Impaktt we gotta finish these low buffs". :confused: :confused: Anyway---I still always try and help.  :headscratch: :salute    

Thats always fun to have happen.  :banana:

Even though I tend to help as much as possible I never seem to get there in time to do more than watch someone get blasted right as I pull the trigger.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: SEraider on February 17, 2010, 10:07:20 AM
 This game is like therapy for me.

Are you nuts?  This game is will put you in the crazy house.  :noid  :joystick:
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Slate on February 17, 2010, 10:14:54 AM
  We play games to have fun. Some take it too seriously just read 200 any day. I like to go against the odds, up on a capped field just to bail over town and sit in the map room. I've ran my pilot to town just to deny a field capture. I'm a sucker for a camped spawn. Rearming on a Carrier is fun and challenging I remember trying over and over to land on one.  :rolleyes:
   Score was a measure at first when you really suck and getting under 1000 was a justifiable goal. But it's not that fun to stay safe and never mix it up.  
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: ZetaNine on February 17, 2010, 10:15:13 AM
responding to a call for assistance...or escort... is man law here........I hold it as sacred as picking up a friend at the airport or helping him move.  

I think I used to check my score every time I flew for the first 4 or 5 weeks...now ... never.  I've been here for a while... but it still feels very much like Im still trying stuff out...and having fun pushing limits with many diff vehicles and planes.  I also tend to stick with either vehicles or planes for week long intervals....  I really get kicks from both...

I remember getting torked-off when I first got here when I felt I was the only one de-acking bases while everyone else was 7K above me recording kills.....until I realized this game is diff things to diff people...and everyone is just trying to enjoy themselves...and I'm cool with that now...and that's actually in an odd way... a point of pride with me...as is grabbing supps when needed....and not when asked.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Jayhawk on February 17, 2010, 10:22:57 AM
My girlfriend tells me the more I play this game the less chance I have of scoring... am I missing something???  :bolt:
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Steve on February 17, 2010, 10:26:39 AM
My girlfriend tells me the more I play this game the less chance I have of scoring... am I missing something???  :bolt:

Yes but she isn't.  I'm taking care of her. Go ahead and re-up a plane.   :aok :D
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 17, 2010, 10:27:48 AM
My girlfriend tells me the more I play this game the less chance I have of scoring... am I missing something???  :bolt:

Yea, dump her.
Never tolerate a woman who is willing to use sex as a weapon or as a tool to manipulate you into conformity of what she wants

Trust me. You stop playing, she is going to find something  else to use it against you with.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Jayhawk on February 17, 2010, 10:32:23 AM
Yes but she isn't.  I'm taking care of her. Go ahead and re-up a plane.   :aok :D

THANKS STEVE!  :D
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: SPKmes on February 17, 2010, 11:27:11 AM
I use the scoring system for my own self improvement...when I get uber enough perhaps I won't....it works both ways also....A few weeks ago I was having a rough/fun night...the Dar was as red as could be, there was gangin and hoin and picking (although I couldn't tell if it was truely a pick...it could have been one of the 8 that got me  :D )so I decided that my aim was to get my K/d to a lower point for a night...let me tell you..even that is easier said than done......when you get to a particular K/d it just seems to go up and down in such small increments....can be very frustrating....I had to spend an extra 2 hours to get to the final K/d I wanted for the night...and still failed to achieve this..... :cry :cry :cry :lol :lol :lol :lol :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: 68ZooM on February 17, 2010, 12:08:48 PM
My girlfriend tells me the more I play this game the less chance I have of scoring... am I missing something???  :bolt:


I'm not   :devil
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Ghastly on February 17, 2010, 12:56:16 PM
The scoring system HTC designed still just doesnt make sense to me.  It seems to promote poor gameplay.  The more I come to understand it the more I dislike it.  I still havent been able to find the write up here on the HTC websight that even attempts to explain the mechancics of it. 

I don't think a scoring system has to make sense.  When you think about it, nearly any game you care to look at that has a scoring system is arbitrary and capricious in some fashion when you look at it closely.  And MMOG's even more so.

As long as it provides enough variety for enough people to feel that they are better than enough other people at what they feel is important, then it is performing it's function, which is to help hold the players' interest.

<S>
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: tassos on February 17, 2010, 01:05:41 PM
Why I Will Never Have the High Score

-I crash my kills by Landing
-I run out of fuel by RTB
-a wire break at my Joystick
-Ackwife shoot me down
-loosing 3G connection cause old Provider still close my Port

...but I still have fun even when I stuck in the rearmpat
2002 found out Hey the enemy is not a Computer ,he answer
2004 found out that you can change country
2006 found out that there is a turet MGgun in Panzer
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: LLogann on February 17, 2010, 01:11:44 PM
 :lol

Yes but she isn't.  I'm taking care of her. Go ahead and re-up a plane.   :aok :D
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: papjohns on February 17, 2010, 01:36:28 PM
Wow.  A post to justify your suckage.  You must be good!   :D

Seriously, none of those are good excuses.  I used to do all the same things and still made the overall top 10-15 consistantly.

Here is your lolly pop, and a framed certificate to go with it to hang on your office wall.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Crash Orange on February 17, 2010, 04:22:00 PM
Help section, topic: Scoring

http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/scoring.html

That tells you how each statistic is calculated, but it doesn't tell you how those 5 or 10 stats are combined to determine rank for each mission type, or how the ranks for the different mission types are combined to determine overall rank. On the stats page you can see a rank for each statistic; are they just adding each player's ranks for the applicable stats and ranking the sums to determine flight category rank, and adding each player's flight category ranks and ranking the sums to get overall rank?

I wouldn't cry if rank went away, but I do like having the stats.

On the larger topic, I don't think there could be a scoring system that couldn't be gamed or didn't promote poor game play. The ultimate un-gamey scoring system, real life, certainly promoted a lot of things that many would consider poor game play here.

Btw, Krusty, I would think hot padding would do much more to improve your kills/sortie than the minute or so it takes to taxi and rearm would do to your kills/time. Likewise it seems improbable that augering would ever be good for score because it quarters your kill points for the sortie as well as hurting k/d. It's the using hot padding to fly long distances between fights, not the hot padding itself, that's going to hurt your score. The same is true if you play a bit more historically and up with 100% fuel 50 miles from the fight, or 150 miles for bombers. Anyway, the main reason I hot pad, and I suspect the same for a lot of players, has nothing to do with rank or "name in lights", it's to rearm ords at fields where ords are down, which I guess is a little gamey but not (IMHO) poor sportsmanship.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Ghastly on February 17, 2010, 04:28:44 PM
Quote
Anyway, the main reason I hot pad, and I suspect the same for a lot of players, has nothing to do with rank or "name in lights", it's to rearm ords at fields where ords are down, which I guess is a little gamey but not (IMHO) poor sportsmanship.

I thought that didn't work any more?

Anyway, when I rearm it's generally because the fighter hangers are down, and I want to up again in defense without coming from another field.

<S>
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Slade on February 17, 2010, 04:35:20 PM
I had a very score obsessed pilot that you might have heard of say to me over 200 that I sucked because I only had x number of kills per hour.  Heck sometimes it takes me all day to get somewhere in my F4F and when I get there I find the war has gone somewhere else!  :eek:

Play the way you want but don't stick your way of playing in my face is what I felt on that one.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Steve on February 17, 2010, 05:11:56 PM

Btw, Krusty, I would think hot padding would do much more to improve your kills/sortie than the minute or so it takes to taxi and rearm would do to your kills/time. Likewise it seems improbable that augering would ever be good for score because it quarters your kill points for the sortie as well as hurting k/d. It's the using hot padding to fly long distances between fights, not the hot padding itself, that's going to hurt your score. The same is true if you play a bit more historically and up with 100% fuel 50 miles from the fight, or 150 miles for bombers. Anyway, the main reason I hot pad, and I suspect the same for a lot of players, has nothing to do with rank or "name in lights", it's to rearm ords at fields where ords are down, which I guess is a little gamey but not (IMHO) poor sportsmanship.

Once you get a k/d of 5.0 or better you get very little return for time spent improving it. Same goes for 3.0 kills per sortie. So yes, once you've reached these numbers your score would be better served by simply augering in oder to get the most out of K/T. 
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: Shuffler on February 17, 2010, 05:31:16 PM
Just fly and let the numbers fall where they may.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 17, 2010, 06:21:00 PM
I had a very score obsessed pilot that you might have heard of say to me over 200 that I sucked because I only had x number of kills per hour.  Heck sometimes it takes me all day to get somewhere in my F4F and when I get there I find the war has gone somewhere else!  :eek:

LMAO! Know that feeling. Or you get there and everyone on your side has already been either shot down or RTB and you find yourself the lone pork chop surrounded by 20 starving natives.
Title: Re: Why I Will Never Have the High Score
Post by: W7LPNRICK on February 18, 2010, 12:10:44 AM
I am to ugly to score with chicks :old:

That's TOO ugly dude. cuz I R Too.  :neener: