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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Treize69 on February 23, 2010, 07:53:16 AM
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A vid I came across of several Russian Sukhois using their Thrust Vectoring capabilities in a demo. Looks impressive, but imagine how disorienting this would have to be for the pilot? Not to mention of limited tactical use (aside from the fact that gives a whole new degree of control to the pilot).
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbbllw_thrust-vector-control-sukhoi_tech
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As people has said in the past most of those moves look great at the airshows and as you said have extremely limited tactical use. With that being said I still think the Flanker series are some beautiful aircraft.
FYI there is some footage of the Su-34/Su-32 Platypus (Nato: Fullback) at 1:35-1:41. Some footage of the Su-47 Berkut (Nato: Firkin) at 2:03-2:15.
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As people has said in the past most of those moves look great at the airshows and as you said have extremely limited tactical use. With that being said I still think the Flanker series are some beautiful aircraft.
FYI there is some footage of the Su-34/Su-32 Platypus (Nato: Fullback) at 1:35-1:41. Some footage of the Su-47 Berkut (Nato: Firkin) at 2:03-2:15.
The moves themselves might be of limited tactical use but the plane itself can preform similar stalls while fighting in a dogfight
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The moves themselves might be of limited tactical use but the plane itself can preform similar stalls while fighting in a dogfight
Nothing like just slowly falling out of the sky in a dogfight while the AIM-9 comes barreling in on you.
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Nothing like just slowly falling out of the sky in a dogfight while the AIM-9 comes barreling in on you.
Not to mention Sukhoi's Ejection Seats.
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Whoever said Tom Cruise in Top Gun couldn't slam on the brakes... Is probably cursing at themselves since Thrust Vectoring technology came out.
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I bet the Thrust Vectoring baby can assign that nasty R73 with Helmet Mounted Sights pretty fast: 'Give that tone! Give THAT tone!..omg...' Splash... j/k
The Su-27+ planes are the sexiest modern age fighters. Really.
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Nothing like just slowly falling out of the sky in a dogfight while the AIM-9 comes barreling in on you.
Wheres Mace when you need him. I don't think it happens often in modern dogfights but when you get into a scissors I don't think they are only going to use missiles
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Wheres Mace when you need him. I don't think it happens often in modern dogfights but when you get into a scissors I don't think they are only going to use missiles
There are "dogfights" nowadays?
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Whoever said Tom Cruise in Top Gun couldn't slam on the brakes... Is probably cursing at themselves since Thrust Vectoring technology came out.
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You do know that character and tactic was loosely based on Boyd flat plating the F100?
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Wheres Mace when you need him. I don't think it happens often in modern dogfights but when you get into a scissors I don't think they are only going to use missiles
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure the maxim speed is life is still pretty accurate. Sure, you can force an instant overshoot in a 1 vs 1... but more than that, and somebody is going to be very excited to be make you into a kill marking with the virtually impossible to miss shot you just gave up.
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There are "dogfights" nowadays?
They practice them at least......this looks awfully like rolling scissors to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-I3tCGQkGU&feature=related
The thrust vectoring gives alot better stall control it seems so I think in this fight it would have made it easier
just saying....
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They practice them at least......this looks awfully like rolling scissors to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-I3tCGQkGU&feature=related
The thrust vectoring gives alot better stall control it seems so I think in this fight it would have made it easier
just saying....
Are you going to "out stall" an AIM-120 going Mach 4 or an AIM-9X going Mach 2.5? :confused:
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Are you going to "out stall" an AIM-120 going Mach 4 or an AIM-9X going Mach 2.5? :confused:
If it gets close enough for guns (or if ECM catches up with current warhead homing tech) then that extra maneuverability could make all the difference.
Every time they say "the dogfight is dead", technology levels out (or the weapons don't function properly) and we have to learn ACM all over again. Or would you rather they just get the F-104 and F-106 out of retirement?
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Are you going to "out stall" an AIM-120 going Mach 4 or an AIM-9X going Mach 2.5? :confused:
Can it be shot at that distance? Honestly I dont know.
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I know is says thrust vectoring but I don't see any.
I,ve see the the video before and it is just stall manuvuers. It has such a huge thrust to weight ratio that you can stall it and get right back out of the stall.
And the use of those forward winglets.
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I know is says thrust vectoring but I don't see any.
I,ve see the the video before and it is just stall manuvuers. It has such a huge thrust to weight ratio that you can stall it and get right back out of the stall.
And the use of those forward winglets.
When you yaw and pitch with almost no forward movement, thats thrust vectoring.
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I know is says thrust vectoring but I don't see any.
I,ve see the the video before and it is just stall manuvuers. It has such a huge thrust to weight ratio that you can stall it and get right back out of the stall.
And the use of those forward winglets.
Watch the video a bit closer you can see the nozzles moving occasionally (the close up shot from under the aircraft).