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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Nath-BDP on September 25, 2000, 01:53:00 PM
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The de Havilland D.H.98 Mosquito (Fighter and Bomber options)
Day Fighter:
Mosquito F.Mk II
Maximim level speed 'clean' 370 mph at 14k, 356 mph at 9k.
Rate of climb at seal level 3,000 fpm; climb to 15k in 6 minutes 45 seconds, service ceiling 34,500 ft.
Armament: Four 20mm Hispano Mk I fixed forward-firing cannon with 150 rounds per gun in the lower part of the nose, and four 0.303 in Browning MkII fixed forward-firing machine guns with 500 rounds per gun in the upper part of the nose.
589 F.MkIIs were manufactured, the most numerical of all the Mossie day-fighter series, also the NF.Mk 30 Night-fighter series would be a nice option, 530 were built.
Mosquito NF.Mk 30 specifications:
Maximum level speed of 424 mph at 26,500 ft, declining to 338 mph at sea level, initial climb rate of 2,500 fpm.
These numbers are with the Merlin 72 of which the first 70 aircraft were delivered with, the last 460 aircraft were delivered with the Merlin 113 or -76 engines.
Light bomber
Mosquito B.Mk XVI:
Maximum level speed of 415 mph at 28,000 ft declining to 400 mph at sea level.
Initial climb rate of 2,800 fpm, climb to 15,000 ft in 7 minutes 30 seconds, service ceiling 37k.
Disposable armament up to 2,000 lb of disposable stores carried in a lower-fuselage weapon bay rated at 2,000 lb, and generally comprising of two 1,000 lb bombs, or one 1,000 lb and two 500 or 250 lb bombs, or four 500 or 250 lb bombs; specially modified aircraft could carry one 4,000 lb bomb
The XVI could also carry 2 120.1 US gal drop tanks, or two 60 US gal drop tanks.
(http://exn.ca/news/images/19990423-MosquitocolourflyingRCAFbig.jpg)
(http://exn.ca/news/images/19990423-MosquitoBWflying2big.jpg)
(http://www.vflintham.demon.co.uk/aircraft/mos/mos35a.jpg)
(http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap18.jpg)
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BEAT DOWN POSSE
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Aces High Scenario Corps
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How about the Beaufighter???? Make an "earlier" choice rather than a later one....
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I heard RAF used pink Spitfires for reconnaissance (Camouflage for hiding in the clouds) but why violet/lila Mossie?
Paint few flowers in it and bring some joy to the world (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Lysander to direct artillery and land spies or sabatours behind enemy lines. I don't know if they ever actually did that, but it would be cool in the game.
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Staga,
Recon Spits were light blue, not pink.
Sorry to pop your "Barbiefire" fantasies. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
(Edit) Jack55,
Yes, Lysanders did drop off and pick up "agents".
Sisu
-Karnak
[This message has been edited by Karnak (edited 09-25-2000).]
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Some of the early fighter recce Spits were painted off-pink.
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I'd scan a pic in of a pink Spit myself but I'm logged on with my different ISP! Anyway, check this pink recon Spitfire - new colour for 2000. The pic was taken at where I work, not by me I hasten to add.
http://www.f4aviation.co.uk/airshow00/riat2000/partthree/pl965.htm (http://www.f4aviation.co.uk/airshow00/riat2000/partthree/pl965.htm)
Regards
'Nexx'
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Mosquito would be a great addition to AH IMO. Just like the JU88, it did just about everything. Unlike the JU88 it was good at all of them. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS
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OK, so I was wrong. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/redface.gif)
Recon Spits aren't my specialty (the chapter name I remember is "Spitfires in blue". (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Sisu
-Karnak
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Any Mosquito would be cool. I always thought the FB Mk. VI was neato.
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FB Mk VI? never heard of it.
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I would LOVE a Mossie
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Squadron Leader, Igloo.
C/O RCAF 411 Squadron - County of York (http://www.trueorigins.net/411rcaf)
"Problems cannot be solved with the same awareness that created them" - Albert Einstein[/i]
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Nath-BDP,
Surely you jest?
Sisu
-Karnak
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Ok, I am gonna be the party pooper here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Why get a Mosquito, when you can have a plane almost as fast as a Mosquito, plus it has a 20mm tail stinger?
Nakajima P1Y "Ginga" (Frances)
(http://214th.com/ww2/japan/p1y/p1y1c.jpg)
**ducks and runs from the angry British Soccer MOB**
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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oh, its a close-support version... nevermind.
btw the P1Y ginga is specified as a Yokosuka aeroplane, even though it was powered by 2 Nakajima engines.
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It was designed by Yokosuka - Nath's absolutely correct (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
BTW - with just 1 forward firing 20mm it kinda falls short of Mossi's 4 cannons plus 4 MGs? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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lynx
13 Sqn RAF
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I was thinking more of the bomber role Lynx, but if you wish to fight air to air in a Mossie against just about anything else, be my guest (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) While there are several varients of the Mossie labeled "Fighter", I have a hard time believing it would be effective in that role. At least given its relative performance in other sims where its been modeled, and just by looking at its physical characteristics and performance specifications. Night Fighter maybe, but Day Fighter..... *shrugs*
True, that forward firepower would be great for ground attack missions though.
On the other hand, if your operating in a level bomber role, I would give up the forward firepower, for the rear firepower of the Frances (which the Mossie totally lacks). That kind of speed, plus a 20mm tail gun, equal a very difficult and dangerous buff attack.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see the Mossie. I was just pointing out that we can get a very similar bomber that fills the same role, and also fill the need for a Japanese bomber with the Frances.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
[This message has been edited by Vermillion (edited 09-27-2000).]
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Give us the mossie now!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Or if not give us the Westland Whirlwind (not the hellicopter):
(http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/fighter/whirlwind/whirl_inflbw.jpg)
Powerplant: Two Rolls-Royce Peregrine I
Thrust: 2x 885 HP
Speed: 360 mph
Ceiling: 30,315 ft
Armament: 4x20mm cannons, 453 kg bombs
It entered service in 1940 and 116 examples were eventually built. Its main disadvatage was its 240 km operational range. The whirlwind was orinally the first aircraft to carry four 20mm cannons, but delays in the production of the RR Peregrine (for which it was specifically designed) and the use of the cannon on spits and hurricanes, limited its use to fighter-bomber. The Beaufighter and later the mosquito overshadowed the Whirlwind. Interesting plane, though.
(http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/fighter/whirlwind/whirl_draw.gif)
Don't think it is modelled anywhere else.
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Dowding
99th 'Raging Rooks'
[This message has been edited by Dowding (edited 09-28-2000).]
[This message has been edited by Dowding (edited 09-28-2000).]
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Verm, Nath; There were no day-fighter Mosquitoes - the only one labelled as such, the F.II, was actually a night-fighter.
The closest thing to a day-fighter was the fighter-bomber FB.VI, the most numerous of all the Mosquito marques with 2248 built.
If the Mosquito was added you could easily have several useful planes in one.
FB.VI - 1942 fighter-bomber with 2000lb bombload, 8 rockets and 4x20mm/4x.303in.
B.IV - 1942 low-altitude bomber with 2000lb bombload. (241 built)
B.XVI - 1944 high-altitude bomber with 4000lb bombload. (1200 built) PS: It does 400mph at 15k iirc, not at sea level!!!
BUT - the P1Y1 would be nicer first since it's IJN and never seen before.
Btw; that "purple" Mosquito is a PR.XVI of the US 8th Air Force, 653rd Bomb Sqn(Light). The crimson tail indicates that it's mission is weather reconnaissance.
Another thing; there were 10 "civil" BOAC Mosquitoes(1 B.IV, 9 FB.VI) that were in use during the war, carrying urgent "passengers" and "cargo" over Europe. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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the 400 mph at SL was a typo.
btw, where is all your info from? i'm interested in your sources.
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Stab/Jagdgeschwader 77
"Herzas"
[This message has been edited by Nath-BDP (edited 09-29-2000).]
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Made from good Canadian plywood!!
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I'll take a woody any day of the week. Though I'd rather have a B-25H-5 or A-26! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
What speed did the woody cruise at?
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The stuff about the Mossie came from Bombers of World War II, which is actually a compilation of articles from Airplane magazine. That, and half-remembered stuff I read in other books at university libraries(like some Mosquitoes had nitrous oxide injection! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)).
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There was a Mosquito with a 57mm gun, and also 75mm gun I believe.
'Nexx'
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There was a feature on the History Channel about the Mosquito. It said that the late-war variants reached speeds of 420 mph.
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Rendar
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yes... B.Mk XVI reached 415 at 28k.
[This message has been edited by Nath-BDP (edited 09-30-2000).]
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Nexx you are right as soon as i get home i'll scan the pics of the Mossie with 57 mm nose gun it still had 4 20mm too.
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The 57mm replaced the 20mm and the internal bombs, but the .303s were retained.
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Nexx said:
> There was a Mosquito with a 57mm gun, and
> also 75mm gun I believe.
'Nexx'
Only a 75mm? check out the Piaggio P.108A with a 102mm cannon :-)
MC202
Dino in Reno
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It only kept two of the .303in I think? Never heard of a 75mm gun in a Mosquito...
415mph? NF.XXX could do 424mph. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)