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Title: another beginner problem
Post by: mgprojects on March 02, 2010, 03:49:24 PM
have done the stick calibration and mapped a fewcontrollers. after start up and throttle advance plane veers left and no rudder input will stop this, plane will actually turn completely around and most often crash. Saitek Cyborg X, stick.
Title: Re: another beginner problem
Post by: ImADot on March 02, 2010, 03:55:11 PM
Is that a twisty stick?  Did you map the Mode 1 (planes) Z-axis for "yaw" input?

If it's not a twisty stick, you're probably stuck with using the keyboard for rudder and/or using auto-takeoff to get off the ground.
Title: Re: another beginner problem
Post by: FLS on March 02, 2010, 04:04:08 PM
Forgive the obvious questions but your post wasn't specific on your controller mapping. Are you using rudder control or rudder trim?   Do you have the brakes mapped to controllers and is the left brake on? Does it also happen with the P-38?
Title: Re: another beginner problem
Post by: mgprojects on March 02, 2010, 05:51:35 PM
Thanks, it was bad rudder mapping, just new and confused.
Good Luck
Bob
Title: Re: another beginner problem
Post by: Traveler on March 06, 2010, 02:20:48 PM
Forgive the obvious questions but your post wasn't specific on your controller mapping. Are you using rudder control or rudder trim?   Do you have the brakes mapped to controllers and is the left brake on? Does it also happen with the P-38?

Use the P38L or P38J, the P38G appears to yaw to the left once full power is applied.  Not sure but the G many be modeled after the original production models ordered and shipped to the English.  The early models did not have counter rotating props. 
Title: Re: another beginner problem
Post by: Soulyss on March 06, 2010, 02:23:29 PM
Use the P38L or P38J, the P38G appears to yaw to the left once full power is applied.  Not sure but the G many be modeled after the original production models ordered and shipped to the English.  The early models did not have counter rotating props. 

The G has the same counter rotating props that the J and L have.  AFAIK the models w/out that were originally sold to the British never served in the USAAF in combat roles, but some did find there way into training centers. 
Title: Re: another beginner problem
Post by: Traveler on March 06, 2010, 03:38:10 PM
The G has the same counter rotating props that the J and L have.  AFAIK the models w/out that were originally sold to the British never served in the USAAF in combat roles, but some did find there way into training centers. 

I'm just saying that the P38 G model in AH yaws to the left and you need to hold right rudder when applying take off power.  The J and L models do not yaw to the left. 
Title: Re: another beginner problem
Post by: FLS on March 06, 2010, 04:13:01 PM
I'm just saying that the P38 G model in AH yaws to the left and you need to hold right rudder when applying take off power.  The J and L models do not yaw to the left.  

This should be a separate thread, I'll post it in the bug forum. I don't remember this happening but I just tried it twice with trim centered and it yawed left. Then I noticed rudder trim had moved on takeoff which shouldn't happen since I use analog trim. I re-centered the rudder trim and it took off straight. It seems to be a rudder trim bug. I don't know if it just affects analog trim or if it's a controller issue rather than an AH issue.

Traveler what controller are you using? I tried this on a different PC without a controller and it took off straight.
Title: Re: another beginner problem
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 06, 2010, 07:43:58 PM
Use the P38L or P38J, the P38G appears to yaw to the left once full power is applied.  Not sure but the G many be modeled after the original production models ordered and shipped to the English.  The early models did not have counter rotating props. 

The P-38G does not yaw to the left when applying power or once full power has been applied, either on take off or in the air.  None of the 'early' P-38s for the USAAF were produced without counter rotating propellors.  The only ones were the Model 322's (The Gelding P-38s) that were sent to England and France and as Soulyss mentioned, were given back to the USAAF and were converted back and used as trainers.

ack-ack
Title: Re: another beginner problem
Post by: Fianna40 on March 06, 2010, 09:54:36 PM
This sounds similar to my problem. I'm rather green, just obtained a Saitek Cyborg X stick, and I believe that I calibrated it through both windows and AH. How does one map the z-axis properly? I've been practicing using a spitfire V or an F4F4. I have managed to stalk and kill the largest target (B-24), but it's been a bear. I've been working exclusively offline thus far, before testing the waters online.

Any advice would be appreciated.
Title: Re: another beginner problem
Post by: Traveler on March 07, 2010, 01:36:15 PM
The P-38G does not yaw to the left when applying power or once full power has been applied, either on take off or in the air.  None of the 'early' P-38s for the USAAF were produced without counter rotating propellors.  The only ones were the Model 322's (The Gelding P-38s) that were sent to England and France and as Soulyss mentioned, were given back to the USAAF and were converted back and used as trainers.

ack-ack

You are correct.  I discovered a probem with my peddles.  Not sure why it only occured when I flew the G model , but I was able to clean the peddels and re-calibrate and now it tracks the centerline.
Title: Re: another beginner problem
Post by: Traveler on March 08, 2010, 01:47:22 PM
This should be a separate thread, I'll post it in the bug forum. I don't remember this happening but I just tried it twice with trim centered and it yawed left. Then I noticed rudder trim had moved on takeoff which shouldn't happen since I use analog trim. I re-centered the rudder trim and it took off straight. It seems to be a rudder trim bug. I don't know if it just affects analog trim or if it's a controller issue rather than an AH issue.

Traveler what controller are you using? I tried this on a different PC without a controller and it took off straight.

I have a set of Pro Peddles from CH.  I think I discovered a problem with them, I pretty much disassembled my control unit and  cleaned them, re-calibrated them within AH and my problem seems to have gone away.  I only noticed the yaw to the left in the G model which thinking back is strange if the problem was only in the controller. It should have happened in any aircraft. 

I seldom use the rudder trim key which is different then the rudder keys “A” left rudder and the “D” key, Right rudder.