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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: kamori on March 04, 2010, 07:11:31 PM
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Well its just about all done....Putting in the posies in this spring and shell be complete.
History: paid $700 for her 1988 GMC Suburban, blown engine swapped out front ends and rear ends. Installed a 1994 350 in her. Did all the body work and paint (she was a rust bucket).
I just had a 383 Stoker built. Installed it last weekend. It runs like a champ...tons of torque.
New 31.5's and ball joints.....
Enjoy:
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/skerlock/DSCN0234.jpg)
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/skerlock/DSCN0231.jpg)
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(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/skerlock/DSCN0232.jpg)
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NICE! Paint Job looks realy professional! wtg! got any action shots yet?
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Last year Memorial Day....with the 94 350...almost made it..The stroker prob would have helped...especially with the posi's...well see this year...Need to break the engine in first..
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/skerlock/Picture050.jpg)
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/skerlock/Picture051.jpg)
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Nice job Kamori! Go with 33's when those 31's wear out. :rock
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Nice job Kamori! Go with 33's when those 31's wear out. :rock
ditto you need more meat under those fenders
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Ok... we've had this discussion before...Bigger Tires SK poorly in Snow country..Tall and thin. The only reason I went with theses was my budget was being tapped out..Otherwise Id be running a taller thinner tire but I needed new rims. This is meant for function not how pretty it looks. I promise I will bounce this off some trees in the next few years, the area in which we hunt has many areas that most dont know about with tons of overgrowth.
Ty for the suggestions though, Mashherbrum knows also that bigger tires on this will have a tendency to break the frame around the steering box..
KAM
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a 6" body lift kit
a 4"-6" skyjacker lift
35" Dick Cepek all terrains
snorkel kit
winch
then i think you can kick some you know what :rock
get a hold of betty she used to roll around in something similar to that. she can explain a hill billy body lift kit to you!
Todd :bolt:
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Ok... we've had this discussion before...Bigger Tires SK poorly in Snow country..Tall and thin. The only reason I went with theses was my budget was being tapped out..Otherwise Id be running a taller thinner tire but I needed new rims. This is meant for function not how pretty it looks. I promise I will bounce this off some trees in the next few years, the area in which we hunt has many areas that most dont know about with tons of overgrowth.
Ty for the suggestions though, Mashherbrum knows also that bigger tires on this will have a tendency to break the frame around the steering box..
KAM
You could always try a 285/16. 33's should be ok, as long as you're not getting crazy on trails. Regardless bro. Awesome job. :devil
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a 6" body lift kit
a 4"-6" skyjacker lift
35" Dick Cepek all terrains
snorkel kit
winch
then i think you can kick some you know what :rock
get a hold of betty she used to roll around in something similar to that. she can explain a hill billy body lift kit to you!
Todd :bolt:
If you put a 6" lift on a Suby and cannot fit 38's under it, you've failed. Also, there is no need for a 6" on a Suby. To fit 35's, Kam would only need 2" tops and then he'd open himself up to Steering Box separation potential. 33's are the max he could safely go and drive it anywhere, safely. Wives and kids will not like the step ladder needed to enter and exit the vehicle. There comes a point where "lifting" becomes excessive. I won't even mention lift blocks. Also not mentioned, IF he switches wheels, I pray he doesn't get wheel spacers. I've seen what a TJ on 33's does when you lose a wheel at 70 on the freeway. My buddy is lucky to be alive. He had wheel spacers and they are dangerous, just like lift blocks.
Skyjacker lifts suck btw. BDS, Rusty's Off Road, Clayton, Full Traction or Fabtech FTW. Rubicon Express lifts are now cheaply manufactured.
Winches are a whole different ball game. Most if stuck, would put themselves in harms way, through no fault of their own. Other than being clueless on the safe use of it. Some people still use the snatch straps with hooks on them. Those hooks turn into deadly missiles when they snap (and they will). Most don't realize you can take a 1" diameter stick and use it to join two snatch straps safely. If you need to pull cable, you need to correct your driving ability. You either failed to read the terrain correctly, or you're in a spot you never should have been in, in the first place.
Body lift kits are unnecessary 90% of the time. You gain no benefit from them as if you do, you're dropping more cash on correcting drive line angles. Suspension Lifts are better and safer (to a point other than excessive).
Betty had an S-10/Blazer IIRC, not a lifted Suby.
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either way they are both chevy's and not a JEEP
you don't get a 6" lift kit because you need it, you get it because your truck will look way more bad a**!
to the point that you need a step stool to get into, i mean come on are you gonna put a uber motor in a suburban and only have wee wittle tires on it sitting factory height? 383 motors are not cheap so why stop there?
don't forget a detroit locker for the suburban as well, then your gonna need an on-board air system which means .....air ride suspension!!!!
I typed skyjacker as an example only, i prefer Ranch as they are based out of Michigan.
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/featuredvehicles/131_1004_1983_chevy_s10/index.html
Todd
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either way they are both chevy's and not a JEEP
you don't get a 6" lift kit because you need it, you get it because your truck will look way more bad a**!
to the point that you need a step stool to get into, i mean come on are you gonna put a uber motor in a suburban and only have wee wittle tires on it sitting factory height? 383 motors are not cheap so why stop there?
don't forget a detroit locker for the suburban as well, then your gonna need an on-board air system which means .....air ride suspension!!!!
I typed skyjacker as an example only, i prefer Ranch as they are based out of Michigan.
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/featuredvehicles/131_1004_1983_chevy_s10/index.html
Todd
BDS are the best, they're out of Coldwater, Michigan. If you break anything, they replace it, no questions asked.
Why would he keep stock? Why not? You cannot compare Montana to Michigan. If I bought an old pickup (Ford guy, but I almost bought a Rare 65 GMC 3/4 Ton Crew Cab P/U from MN), I'd keep it stock or do a mild lift. But nothing "extreme" or "out of the ordinary". My guess, Kam and I are similar in we prefer "stock looks" over "played out useless modifications".
Detroit Lockers are not utilizing air. ARB's do and they suck. On Board air via the York is the way to go.
BTW, just because your trucks "looks bada**" doesn't mean you haven't a clue of safety and common sense. I used to sit on the Board of Directors of the Great Lakes Four Wheel Drive Association, I now look at safety as the priority.
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Kamori you did a great job man, you'll love the 383 tons of torque for offroading, I'm tossing around the idea of a stageII Roush supercharger and cold air kit for my 04 F150 FX4 5.4 Triton Its a beast offroad now but im wanting little more HP and Torque, total kits about $3200 and says about 10 to 14 hours install time ( weekend project) my refund was like 13,350 so i might get it
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BDS are the best, they're out of Coldwater, Michigan. If you break anything, they replace it, no questions asked.
Why would he keep stock? Why not? You cannot compare Montana to Michigan. If I bought an old pickup (Ford guy, but I almost bought a Rare 65 GMC 3/4 Ton Crew Cab P/U from MN), I'd keep it stock or do a mild lift. But nothing "extreme" or "out of the ordinary". My guess, Kam and I are similar in we prefer "stock looks" over "played out useless modifications".
Detroit Lockers are not utilizing air. ARB's do and they suck. On Board air via the York is the way to go.
BTW, just because your trucks "looks bada**" doesn't mean you haven't a clue of safety and common sense. I used to sit on the Board of Directors of the Great Lakes Four Wheel Drive Association, I now look at safety as the priority.
yep i had 85 s10 blazer, but it was lifted 3" body and 4" sus. come on karaya you have to admit that he could put a 4" or 6" lift on that bad boy sittin on some 35s and put a paint job on her. i would have had a bigger lift in my blazer but my blazer was already top heavy because of the short wheel base. putting it up higher than it was would have made it worse.
btw, i have had no problems with skyjacker lifts, summit racing and jegs used to be my best friends back 6 years or so ago.
nice burbon kamori! my parents had one the same year, damn michigan winters ate that truck up. but it had a 454BB in it.
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you DO realize ya put the distributor on the wrong end right? :banana: :neener:
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yep i had 85 s10 blazer, but it was lifted 3" body and 4" sus. come on karaya you have to admit that he could put a 4" or 6" lift on that bad boy sittin on some 35s and put a paint job on her. i would have had a bigger lift in my blazer but my blazer was already top heavy because of the short wheel base. putting it up higher than it was would have made it worse.
btw, i have had no problems with skyjacker lifts, summit racing and jegs used to be my best friends back 6 years or so ago.
nice burbon kamori! my parents had one the same year, damn michigan winters ate that truck up. but it had a 454BB in it.
If you put 35's on any Late-70's to 91 Pickup, K5, etc you will end up ripping the steering box off of the frame. You CAN, but the real question is and Kam I discussed this at length, you shouldn't. Ask CAP, you don't want to lost your steering box, if you're driving. Hit a pothole just right and you're in the hands of God.
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TY for the compliments guys....I not one for High lifting a Rig. Where I use mine Hight will = roll over. A low CG Center of gravity is king.
KAM
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If you put 35's on any Late-70's to 91 Pickup, K5, etc you will end up ripping the steering box off of the frame. You CAN, but the real question is and Kam I discussed this at length, you shouldn't. Ask CAP, you don't want to lost your steering box, if you're driving. Hit a pothole just right and you're in the hands of God.
well i guess i didnt really think about that...i can see where that would be an issue. my ex had 35s on his truck he had when we got together, it was at 78 3/4 ton chevy pickup with like a 4" lift in it. it had a 402 BB in it and it seemed to do just fine. he blew a rear main seal when we was out mud boggin. it was the first standard vehicle i ever drove. let out on the clutch and would be spinning tires. the neighbors hated him in the early morning when he would start it up to warm it up before he went to work. strait pipes and a big cam = lot of noise :)
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i bet that Betty would out wrench over 50% of the people on this board. :D
:bolt:
Todd
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If you put a 6" lift on a Suby and cannot fit 38's under it, you've failed. Also, there is no need for a 6" on a Suby. To fit 35's, Kam would only need 2" tops and then he'd open himself up to Steering Box separation potential. 33's are the max he could safely go and drive it anywhere, safely.correct. one thing most people seem to overlook, is that as they raise their vehicles, they also raise the cg a LOT. much easier to roll it accidentally. there's also the question of brakes.......larger diameter tires will reduce your brakes effectiveness a LOT. Wives and kids will not like the step ladder needed to enter and exit the vehicle. There comes a point where "lifting" becomes excessive. I won't even mention lift blocks.these are also very dangerous......in fact, i believe they're illegal in nj. Also not mentioned, IF he switches wheels, I pray he doesn't get wheel spacers.i cannot state my opinion on wheel spacers in such a way as to not get a vacation from here. I've seen what a TJ on 33's does when you lose a wheel at 70 on the freeway. My buddy is lucky to be alive. He had wheel spacers and they are dangerous, just like lift blocks.
Skyjacker lifts suck btw. BDS, Rusty's Off Road, Clayton, Full Traction or Fabtech FTW. Rubicon Express lifts are now cheaply manufactured.
Winches are a whole different ball game. Most if stuck, would put themselves in harms way, through no fault of their own. Other than being clueless on the safe use of it. Some people still use the snatch straps with hooks on them. Those hooks turn into deadly missiles when they snap (and they will). Most don't realize you can take a 1" diameter stick and use it to join two snatch straps safely. If you need to pull cable, you need to correct your driving ability. You either failed to read the terrain correctly, or you're in a spot you never should have been in, in the first place.
Body lift kits are unnecessary 90% of the time. You gain no benefit from them as if you do, you're dropping more cash on correcting drive line angles. Suspension Lifts are better and safer (to a point other than excessive).
Betty had an S-10/Blazer IIRC, not a lifted Suby.
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If you put 35's on any Late-70's to 91 Pickup, K5, etc you will end up ripping the steering box off of the frame. You CAN, but the real question is and Kam I discussed this at length, you shouldn't. Ask CAP, you don't want to lost your steering box, if you're driving. Hit a pothole just right and you're in the hands of God.
you are correct.
i can't count the number of later model gm trucks i've seen that were still stock, with the steerign box ripping out.
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i bet that Betty would out wrench over 50% of the people on this board. :D
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Todd
I'll take the bet.
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Re did the front bumper. I used a Pro grade, Undercoating, dries flat black. Im not sure, kind of like chrome.
BEFORE:
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/skerlock/DSCN0111-1.jpg)
AFTER:
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/skerlock/DSCN0239-1.jpg)
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/skerlock/DSCN0238-1.jpg)
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/skerlock/DSCN0237.jpg)
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I'll take the bet.
same here.....but then i got a little of an unfair advantage. :devil
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what's the deal with the pickup next to it?
what is that? a 68 or 69?
lookin good btw,.,,,,
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"I am Kamori hear my suburban ROAR"! :x
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what's the deal with the pickup next to it?
what is that? a 68 or 69?
lookin good btw,.,,,,
Its a 69...It has 20,000 on a rebuilt 350, It runs just not sure what I want to do with it...It was an old farm truck..Needs new bed..and lots of tlc.
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Its a 69...It has 20,000 on a rebuilt 350, It runs just not sure what I want to do with it...It was an old farm truck..Needs new bed..and lots of tlc.
that looks like a hot rod, or a very nice sleeper in the making.
where are you again? :devil :angel: :aok
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Its a 69...It has 20,000 on a rebuilt 350, It runs just not sure what I want to do with it...It was an old farm truck..Needs new bed..and lots of tlc.
I used to have a 72 chevy K5 blazer...it had a 3 speed on the colum and was bright orange just like your truck. damn thing rusted out so bad cuz of the michigan winters that you could throw a cat thru it and not hurt the cat. It was a fun truck to drive. I miss my 85 blazer I had. I called it my "tonka toy".
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Nice job on the bumper Kam! Is this the same stuff you used on your rocker panels? If not, it's something to consider and will help against them rotting.
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The stuff i used on the rocker panels was dry hard Chip Guard that I painted over with gloss black. The bumper stuff is a professional grade undercoating (rubberized). Thought I would give it a try. They both went on with the same splatter gun. I guess we will see how I like it after i get the running towards Powder coated Black. It will be a textured powder coating for the running boards.
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Since there is a couple of 4X4 enthusiasts on here I have a question for ya?
On the tranny gears in a manual tranny what is the better gear ratio a higher or lower ratio for first gear?
Todd
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Since there is a couple of 4X4 enthusiasts on here I have a question for ya?
On the tranny gears in a manual tranny what is the better gear ratio a higher or lower ratio for first gear?
Todd
both my 70 chevy, and my 79 ford had what's called a "creeper" or "granny" gear. what that is, is a stupidly high first gear ratio. i never used it unless i had my car trailer on the back, or was climbing a really steep hill.
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I looked up my jeep tranny and it has a 2.98:1 1st gear un-syncronized
is that good?
Todd
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I looked up my jeep tranny and it has a 2.98:1 1st gear un-syncronized
is that good?
Todd
What Jeep do you have? Gearing for Jeeps depends on a few factors. Do you drive it to your destination? Do you tow it? Do you rock crawl? But if I know the Jeep Transmission you have, it'll make my reply easier. I don't have enough information as of now.
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I have a 1980 3/4 ton chevy 350 we keep at the cabin..It has Granny Gear 1st..Its a life saver when your chained up all 4's and your pushing snow over the bumper....
Kam
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What Jeep do you have? Gearing for Jeeps depends on a few factors. Do you drive it to your destination? Do you tow it? Do you rock crawl? But if I know the Jeep Transmission you have, it'll make my reply easier. I don't have enough information as of now.
1947 T-90-A-1 with the first gear ratio being 2.98:1
F4-134 "F" head Hurricane engine
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I grew up driving a 1949 Willys...My dad put in a 283 V8 with Chevy Posi-traction front and rear...That was a Total Monster for a 10 year old to learn how to drive. Headers, cherry Bombs...The Deer and Elk would just stand there looking at whatever the hell we were coming down the road...LOL great memories
Kam
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1947 T-90-A-1 with the first gear ratio being 2.98:1
F4-134 "F" head Hurricane engine
It's the Dana 18 making the 2.98 (T-case). You might be able to make up for some of it in the Diff's, rather than tear apart your trans and swap gears.
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It's the Dana 18 making the 2.98 (T-case). You might be able to make up for some of it in the Diff's, rather than tear apart your trans and swap gears.
This is my issue I am running into. The Jeep is a 1965 DJ and the DJ models only came as two wheel drive vehicles. My Jeep has a transfer case and front differential and the tranny is from 1947, so you can see what I am dealing with.
Todd
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This is my issue I am running into. The Jeep is a 1965 DJ and the DJ models only came as two wheel drive vehicles. My Jeep has a transfer case and front differential and the tranny is from 1947, so you can see what I am dealing with.
Todd
Find a Dana 300, rebuild it (they're cheap to buy and use gears, not a chain) and mate it to a AX15 (or equiv 4 spd) Then go to Advance Adapters and get the associated adapters you'll need and install. Although an NV4500 (5 spd w/OD would be awesome). Trailer it to a Driveshaft place and have them fab you custom F/R drive shafts. $2500 for everything TOPS (about 500-1000 more for the NV4500). Greatlakes4x4 (dunno where you live).com alone has used parts ALL OF THE TIME.
If you want, PM me and I can see what I can do to try and help you get pointed in the correct direction.
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I am good but thanks anyway. I recently joined the jeep forum and there is a huge amount of info and parts available on there.
I really do not want to hack up my jeep and put in all new parts just yet.
Todd
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you DO realize ya put the distributor on the wrong end right? :banana: :neener:
You DO realize that real trucks don't have spark plugs, right?
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff266/Radcam/DSC00635.jpg)
It only makes 225 hp @ 2,600 rpm at the rear wheels, but it puts out 500 ft/lbs of torque at 1,800 rpms.
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff266/Radcam/Mytruck.jpg)
Oh, and I'm getting 20 mpg.
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I grew up driving a 1949 Willys...My dad put in a 283 V8 with Chevy Posi-traction front and rear...That was a Total Monster for a 10 year old to learn how to drive. Headers, cherry Bombs...The Deer and Elk would just stand there looking at whatever the hell we were coming down the road...LOL great memories
Kam
Ahh memories thank you, i had a 53 Willy's 2Dr wagon Hi Po 283 installed original running gear 4Sp (granny low) and Hi/Lo stick for the transfer case and a PTO Winch on the front, 33" all terrain T/A's, that thing was a beast offroad any place i couldn't make it the PTO got me there, low range on the transfer and granny you could climb anything, i had a pic of me almost vertical climbing a pine tree this was back in the 80's, man i wish i had that willy's now