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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: grupa on March 05, 2010, 04:02:18 PM
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Have you noticed that there are no biplanes in aces high 2 i wish there were like the gladiator was obsolete but very important, but it would be awesome if we had the Swordfish because it was a very important in many carrier attacks. I don't know why aces high doesn't have biplanes but it would be awesome to have at least the Swordfish.
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Biplanes you say? Like, maybe, a WWI arena? :)
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Ta daaa
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Swordfish would be nice, though.
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Have you noticed that there are no biplanes in aces high 2 i wish there were like the gladiator was obsolete but very important, but it would be awesome if we had the Swordfish because it was a very important in many carrier attacks. I don't know why aces high doesn't have biplanes but it would be awesome to have at least the Swordfish.
Naive or funny man?
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Have you noticed that there are no biplanes in aces high 2 i wish there were like the gladiator was obsolete but very important, but it would be awesome if we had the Swordfish because it was a very important in many carrier attacks. I don't know why aces high doesn't have biplanes but it would be awesome to have at least the Swordfish.
I would love a Swordfish, Gladiator, I-153, and Avia B.534 too. Why we don't have any WWII era biplanes, I don't know. We will be getting WWI biplanes eventually though.
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Because THEY SUCK! lol :rofl
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The Swordfish was important in british torpedo attacks na others. I say yes. +
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Because THEY SUCK! lol :rofl
I've never flown one, yet I'm fairly certain biplanes will out-turn spitfires.
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I've never flown one, yet I'm fairly certain biplanes will out-turn spitfires.
They can?
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They can?
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If I recall.. we did have it, way back in AH1.. I think.. way back... or maybe it was the storch.. not sure..
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The most poduced aircraft to see combat in WWII was a biplane
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Po-2.jpg/800px-Po-2.jpg)
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More planes to fill out the early war set would be welcome. Cr.42 vs. Gloster Gladiator, anyone?
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I have not double checked the stats for the Swordfish, but woulnt the B5N be a viable substitute? :)
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your serious theyed just be cannon fauder -1000000000
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You're serious? They'd just be cannon fodder! -1000000000
They said the same about the Brewster B-239, yet the Brewster makes up .49 percent of all the deaths in the last tour and .54 percent of all kills in the most recent score. It isn't all about whether or not the plane is a late war über ride, rather, a plane should be added to fill a gap that is readily apparent in the game's plane set.
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Have you noticed that there are no biplanes in aces high 2 i wish there were like the gladiator was obsolete but very important, but it would be awesome if we had the Swordfish because it was a very important in many carrier attacks. I don't know why aces high doesn't have biplanes but it would be awesome to have at least the Swordfish.
Wasn't important in any carrier attacks. important in the sinking of Bismark, and in blowing the French out of the water, but in AH a 130mph biplane attacking the ridiculous very late war type ack over carriers would be suicidal
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They said the same about the Brewster B-239, yet the Brewster makes up .49 percent of all the deaths in the last tour and .54 percent of all kills in the most recent score. It isn't all about whether or not the plane is a late war über ride, rather, a plane should be added to fill a gap that is readily apparent in the game's plane set.
Wow, half of one percent on what has got to be THE most overly generous modeling of the brewster in the history of flight sim gaming?
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(Just laughing at the numbers, I'm all for the swordfish and for filling plane set holes!)
P.S. Danny, in scenarios, AvA, SEA, etc, the lethality of CV ack can be toned down for early-war planesets, thus making it somewhat survivable to attack carriers in early war planes. In the MAs you are quite right, it would be suicide.
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I have not double checked the stats for the Swordfish, but woulnt the B5N be a viable substitute? :)
B5N2 is substantially more capable.
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Because THEY SUCK! lol :rofl
they dont suck some of them did but a lot of important ones didnt
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You may be right that they were most produced but a Po-2?????? Come on man at least show a biplane that saw some freaking action. Like the Gladiator, I-15, or Swordfish. Not a TRAINER!?!?!!?
perdweeb
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The Night Witches used the Po-2 as a night harassment bomber.
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I believe that some bi-planes operated off of cruisers and battleships as spotters. Then again, they would probably be operating away from more capable aircraft.
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I believe that some bi-planes operated off of cruisers and battleships as spotters. Then again, they would probably be operating away from more capable aircraft.
Curtiss SOC "Seagull" Scout-Observation Planes (http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/ac-usn22/s-types/soc.htm)
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(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g360000/g361985.jpg)
(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g30000/g30118.jpg)
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I just like the pics.
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wrongway
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Why in the world are you guys talking about the sexual pref of an aircraft? It's like a bunch of BANS waiting to happen................ :confused:
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Swordfish would be ripped apart in MA. You cant even get close enough in 88s most of the time. how do you expect to get close enough in a biplane that, at best, will go 150 mph?
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"I have not double checked the stats for the Swordfish, but woulnt the B5N be a viable substitute?"
There is no substitute for a Swordfish, it's unique.
Cannon fodder? All too often the case, but it didn't deter the aircrews of the Fleet Air Arm from attacking whenever and wherever they found the enemy. I couldn't care less whether 'it won't survive in the MA' or not - but I'd like the chance to fly the aircraft that succeeded against the odds and crippled the Italian fleet at Taranto, sank hundreds of thousands of tons of Axis merchantmen in the Mediterranean, protected the vital Atlantic convoys from U-boat attack by flying off and landing on the smallest operational carrier decks ever built (the MAC-ships) - and took on the greatest concentration of German warships seen in WW2, when 'Winkle' Esmonde led his 'forlorn hope' of half-a-dozen Stringbags against Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Prinz Eugen and their air and sea escorts even though he knew he hadn't a hope in hell of surviving.
Yes, I'm one of those weirdos who like to re-create and test history by using a good combat flight sim, not a MA arcade-gamer - so I vote FOR the Swordfish. And the US Navy's Douglas TBD-1 Devastator.
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It would be a cool Early War plane +1.
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"I have not double checked the stats for the Swordfish, but woulnt the B5N be a viable substitute?"
There is no substitute for a Swordfish, it's unique.
Cannon fodder? All too often the case, but it didn't deter the aircrews of the Fleet Air Arm from attacking whenever and wherever they found the enemy. I couldn't care less whether 'it won't survive in the MA' or not - but I'd like the chance to fly the aircraft that succeeded against the odds and crippled the Italian fleet at Taranto, sank hundreds of thousands of tons of Axis merchantmen in the Mediterranean, protected the vital Atlantic convoys from U-boat attack by flying off and landing on the smallest operational carrier decks ever built (the MAC-ships) - and took on the greatest concentration of German warships seen in WW2, when 'Winkle' Esmonde led his 'forlorn hope' of half-a-dozen Stringbags against Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Prinz Eugen and their air and sea escorts even though he knew he hadn't a hope in hell of surviving.
Yes, I'm one of those weirdos who like to re-create and test history by using a good combat flight sim, not a MA arcade-gamer - so I vote FOR the Swordfish. And the US Navy's Douglas TBD-1 Devastator.
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Yeah it would make a great hangar queen, we need more things to look at in the hangar.
Seriously, think about this one...aside from special events that might use these planes...who would fly an unarmed slow moving biplane in the main arenas more than once? There is nothing these scout planes can do that any of the existing early war planes cannot...aside from being an easy kill for even the early war planes. Now if HTC was in the practice of adding items that could be used exclusively for special events, scout planes could be a good add...but that doesn't happen.
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Yeah it would make a great hangar queen, we need more things to look at in the hangar.
Seriously, think about this one...aside from special events that might use these planes...who would fly an unarmed slow moving biplane in the main arenas more than once? There is nothing these scout planes can do that any of the existing early war planes cannot...aside from being an easy kill for even the early war planes. Now if HTC was in the practice of adding items that could be used exclusively for special events, scout planes could be a good add...but that doesn't happen.
I would
That's not the point, its diversity, there are MANY planes we have now that are not **needed** they are there for diversity.
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I would
That's not the point, its diversity, there are MANY planes we have now that are not **needed** they are there for diversity.
If you enjoy being an easy target and want diversity...fly the B5N without bombs. There are a plethora of actual useable aircraft not available now that would offer better diversity across the board.
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I'd fly it. An 'easy target'? If HT models the ol' Stringbag properly, you'll discover how hard it is to hit when it turns on the proverbial sixpence.
You can keep the B5N Kate, it's made of used slot-machine parts from 'Vegas and hasn't got an open cockpit.
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60 ENY PLANES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If you enjoy being an easy target and want diversity...fly the B5N without bombs. There are a plethora of actual useable aircraft not available now that would offer better diversity across the board.
I dont want to fly the B5N i want the swordfish.
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I dont want to fly the B5N i want the swordfish.
And what would you do with it, be the designated scout target for whatever side you're flying? Fly it every time you get a chance? Fly along at 25,000 feet without a bomb sight and spot gv's?
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And what would you do with it, be the designated scout target for whatever side you're flying? Fly it every time you get a chance? Fly along at 25,000 feet without a bomb sight and spot gv's?
Maybe I just want to fly around in a swordfish, sue me for wanting to do something fun besides killing for once :P
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i think that hi tech might see this and really think :headscratch: into letting us have the swordfish because this is topic is heating up so what if our swordfishes blow up or somethin it will be fun to watch some dude flyin and loose control of his plane :joystick: i just want a couple WWII biplanes to fly around in :airplane:
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"Fly along at 25,000 feet without a bomb sight and spot gv's?"
Gyrene, you know not of what you speak if you think 1) the dear ol' Stringbag could reach 25,000 feet and 2) that it didn't have a bomb-sight; it had two sights for aiming its ordnance, the torpedo-sighting bar in front of the pilot and a level-bombing sight in the floor for use by the observer on the odd occasion when the need arose.
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The Swordfish was important in british torpedo attacks na others. I say yes. +
you get it near a CV group and live long enough to torp it i'll give 5,000,000 dollars man
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Don't know about attacking an AH CV group, but the Stringbag did quite well in the real world.
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why not ? atleast it wasnt' another b29 request...ooooooops!!! :eek:
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i want the swordfish and the hawker fury. I love the hurri 1 in the MA , i get shot down in it but also get a couple of kills too. never seem to land them though.
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I think as far as the historical aspect the Swordfish would be a good fit in AvA or FSO. But due to its speed I dont know how well it would fair in the MA's? Anothe rposter asked how could this aircraft get in close enough when 88's cant? Simple solution is attacj in mass from multiple directions. I have actually gotten close to the CV to drop torps and make it out. Key was there was multiple aircarft in the sky above and near the CV. Either way I am always for historically significant planes or Gv's.
BigKev
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BUMP.
HT, build me a Swordfish, or lose me forever.
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I think these older Biplanes that held airforces together in the early day of WW2 would be great.
And I think some REAL reasons why they couldn't be added would be nice. Just askin :devil
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Another BUMP. I want a Swordfish Mk.I, Swordfish Mk.II, Swordfish Mk.III . . .
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I just watched Sink The Bismark last night (on-line at Netflix). Those Swordfish pilots attacking with torpedos were nuts. The Bismark had very good AA defenses; as good as what the task groups in-game have. It would be a nice historical addition.
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I don't care how crazy the plane is or whatever the chances of its survival, WE are recreating history here people and it did a bloody good job for what its worth.
I'm with simba and B3 in their quest to die in a blaze of glory :rock
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I don't care how crazy the plane is or whatever the chances of its survival, WE are recreating history here people and it did a bloody good job for what its worth.
I'm with simba and B3 in their quest to die in a blaze of glory :rock
Bruv if we ever get a swordfish you may call me any at any time sir. Hell Ill fly into 2 count them 1.......2......MA CV groups at at the same time at a moments notice.
One crazy Texan requesting to go down ina blaze of glory and shame on the 5 inch gunner that lets us sink his boat.
Wheres my stringbag? that one good......lets roll! :rock
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someone mentioned the Brewster earlier in the thread, well a few weeks ago......
I was in Finland with the crazy Finns and we did a 20 man Brewster mission to an enemy field. Blauk said something like this is more Brewsters than they ever had at any one time in the air.
The poor guys who upped at that base are probably still having Brewster nightmares! :t
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Another BUMP. I want a Swordfish Mk.I, Swordfish Mk.II, Swordfish Mk.III . . .
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it aint a bump if it aint under 2 days old really...
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"I just watched Sink The Bismark last night (on-line at Netflix). Those Swordfish pilots attacking with torpedos were nuts."
They were indeed. Here are two wonderful true stories of the Swordfish crews that attacked the Bismarck:
One of the Swordfish observers from Ark Royal had bought a new camera and taken it along with him to record the sortie. Failing to get a decent shot during the attack run, he asked the pilot to go round again. The pilot said afterwards 'it wasn't the barrage fire from the big guns or the flashes from the AA bursts, it was the nasty little tracers nipping through between the wings that worried me.'
Another pilot of 825 Squadron from HMS Victorious recalled that his laconic Telegraphist Air Gunner (TAG) made only two comments throughout their sortie. The first came when an AA shell-burst blew a large hole in the bottom of the fuselage. 'Bloody hell, someone's just knocked the floor out of my house.' The Swordfish made its attack and eventually landed back on with the carrier's deck pitching heavily. Just as the aircraft came to a stop the carrier's bow dipped into the heavy sea and the Swordfish disappeared in a massive cloud of spray. When it re-appeared, seawater was pouring out of every orifice and bullet-hole and the TAG made his second statement as he unshipped his gun. 'That bloody hole's come in handy.'
Men of few words and great courage, I salute you. :salute
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I strongly advise everyone to read 'War in a Stringbag' by Charles Lamb if you have the opportunity, it's an absolutely fantastic book.
If the swordfish ever made it into AH i would definately fly it all the time- well that and the seafire LIII, and the beaufighter, and a remodelled mossie and.... :)
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Good book, is 'War in a Stringbag'. I reckon I've read just about every book and publication there is about the ol' darling; IMO the best single-volume history of the Swordfish to date is 'The Swordfish Story' by Ray Sturtivant, ISO; 1993, Arms and Armour Press, London, ISBN 1-85409-122-0.
Splice the mainbrace!
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"lose me forever" ??? Just go already! :D
Good book, is 'War in a Stringbag'. I reckon I've read just about every book and publication there is about the ol' darling; IMO the best single-volume history of the Swordfish to date is 'The Swordfish Story' by Ray Sturtivant, ISO; 1993, Arms and Armour Press, London, ISBN 1-85409-122-0.
Splice the mainbrace!
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What, and let the Sandman rule the roost?
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Like the Swordfish, I shall go on forever - BUMP.
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+1!!!
...just had to do that...
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My desire to fly a Swordfish in AH is still overwhelming, so - time for another BUMP.
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mocking clap :old:
swordfish would be cool
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Because THEY SUCK! lol :rofl
Only pilots suck, airplanes just fly....
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I have posted biplanes that AH should bring in. IMP, i think they can do it after having WWI AC.
Japan D1A "SUSIE" dive bomber
British Swordfish Mk II
British Fairey Albacore
Italian CR.42 (Served in Belgium AF and was in the Battle of Britain)
British Gladiator Mk I (Served in Finland AF on Axis side, Norway AF, and Portugla AF)
Germany Hs 123A-1 dive bomber
Russian Polikarpov I-15/I-153
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I detect a serious need arising from a very small number of toon pile-it dweebs who have a strong desire for something to make them whine endlessly about the lack of performance in their new "cool plane"...just to have what will inevitably become a hangar queen faster than it took for the WWI "cool factor" to wear off.
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Me thinks you miss the point entirely...
While the "subset" that has a fascination with "less then stellar" aircraft is certainly somewhat small its far from being "pile-it dweebs". For some of us a lot of fun involves figuring out how to be competitive in an airframe viewed as substandard by most of the player base.
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My desire to fly a Swordfish in AH is still overwhelming, so - time for another BUMP.
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You bump the thread, i bump my reply
Wasn't important in any carrier attacks. important in the sinking of Bismark, and in blowing the French out of the water, but in AH a 130mph biplane attacking the ridiculous very late war type ack over carriers would be suicidal
To add, in your defence, and in retaliation at ridiculous fleet ack, when the stringbag first attacked the Bismark, 52 AA guns fired on 16 stringbags with 0 kills