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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gaidin on March 05, 2010, 06:03:50 PM
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Looking for a little advice. I am in the market for a new carry weapon. I have been thinking about and XD-M 40 but I havent made a definate decision yet. Price is an object and the XD-M fits into the right range. I have shot them and they are nice. Any other suggestions from some maybe lesser known brands in the same range that you guys have experience with?
Please provide links in suggestions.
Thanks,
Gaidin
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I love my Springfield 1911 :aok
But i did shoot a Glock 22 the other day and it was very nice
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Glock 23.
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I would go with the Glock over the XD.
Both are fine weapons, both in the same price range - I consider the Glock to be the better weapon due, primarily, to (in my experience) a seemingly otherworldly ability to function without failure no matter what the circumstances.
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Once upon a time (before concealed carry was a felony here) I used to carry a Colt Officer model. If I were to start carrying again, I think I would pick up an Hk USP Tactical in 45 cal. Typing on my phone so no link, but you can find it on Hk-USA.com pretty easily.
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just curious as to how much something like the USP tactical sells for in the States?
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Well I'm not surprised there are so many Glock fans out there, I highly recommend it as well (Glock 19 here).
I've heard good things about Kel-tec, particularly the PF-9 (http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/pf9.htm) for carry. I wouldn't mind getting one for myself, and they are about $300 retail I believe.
Of course I also want a Kimber Carry 1911 or something from their Raptor series, but those are little pricier.
If you do YouTube, check out this guy, http://www.youtube.com/user/nutnfancy (http://www.youtube.com/user/nutnfancy).
He's a little long winded but he has reviewed a lot of guns and most of what he has to say is pretty interesting.
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Just remember that there are no "best" handguns. The best one is the one that fits you best, does what you want it to do, and is reliable enough to get the job done. Oh, and dont let the caliber boogeymen get to you either, modern day performance ammunition has pretty much leveled the playing field. But, with that being said you dont have to worry about your .45ACP hollow point not performing... it performs regardless if the ammo functions or not. ;)
btw.. the XD is a fine pistol regardless of the caliber. I'm partial to the Sig226/9mm I've put thousands of rounds through mine and carried it while on LEO duty for 8 years. I'm glad to see your not drinkin' the Glock kool-aid. :lol
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btw.. the XD is a fine pistol regardless of the caliber. I'm partial to the Sig226/9mm I've put thousands of rounds through mine and carried it while on LEO duty for 8 years. I'm glad to see your not drinkin' the Glock kool-aid. :lol
Well I'd love a Sig, but I can afford a Glock.
:lol
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I have fired the Sig226/9 and the HK USPs my biggest problem is the cost locally. The XDM and the Glocks are more in my range and of course there are the manufacturers I have never heard of in the gun shops, but I am very picky when I am going to spend half a months pay on something. I used to carry a SW 40 tac model, but I ended up selling it when times got lean a few years ago and I am ready to get back to carrying. I have already got the permit renewed and now I just need to find a good carry in my price range.
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just curious as to how much something like the USP tactical sells for in the States?
Usually $900 to $1000ish
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I love my smith and wesson 360pd. small bark HUGE bite. I was carrying a glock 27 but even as a sub compact I found it to be too big and bulky to carry daily. The 360pd slips into its holster and right into my front pocket. The holster is designed to stay in my pocket during a draw and is shaped to make the gun give the imprint of a wallet. It's great.
(http://www.snubnose.info/images/SW-360PD-1_350.jpg)
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The only thing i really dont like about the Glock is its lack of a hammer, and no saftey :uhoh
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I have fired the Sig226/9 and the HK USPs my biggest problem is the cost locally. The XDM and the Glocks are more in my range and of course there are the manufacturers I have never heard of in the gun shops, but I am very picky when I am going to spend half a months pay on something. I used to carry a SW 40 tac model, but I ended up selling it when times got lean a few years ago and I am ready to get back to carrying. I have already got the permit renewed and now I just need to find a good carry in my price range.
Don't forget to consider a "trade in" HK or Kimber (or ANY quality gun at a reasonable price). I have a USP 45 (with a Hogue Hand-All) and with large hands, the HK is gold to me. However, I don't think the Compact is really Compact, but I know WTSHTF, my HK will fire. My buddy has a Glock 23C and the Glock 23 is what he wishes he would have gotten instead.
Don't forget to consider a .38 either. The 38 has superior stopping power and penetration over even a 45. I'd carry 38 before any 9mm, even a Sig 226 and I like Sig's (my buddy has put 20,000 rounds through his and I love it too). I used to carry a 38 J Frame S&W at the Midwest's largest Bank Vault and when the Company went to Beretta Cougars (.40), after one range day, reverted back to the Wheel Gun. In just 100 rounds I had 2 stove pipes.
Glock 19 is a 9mm and I would NOT recommend that caliber to depend on your life. I used to dog Glocks something fierce, but some of the Glocks are excellent "size wise" in accordance to caliber. Glocks are just as dependable as my HK, as Sig's. It's just that they use a different trigger mechanism. I like my HK because I can SAFELY carry it "cocked and locked". HK uses a modified Browning Safety. Sig's safeties are nice as well. I mention safeties, because I have an 8 year old myself and he still has no clue I own a pistol. He's seen my deer rifle and loves it, but he's never held it, etc.
Which brings me to the last point Gaidin. Don't forget "Storage". I store mine in a Treated "gun sock" (within my bag pocket to boot) and use this exact bag: http://www.bagmaster.com/cart/products/339/Pro-Shooter%27s%20Bag%20Small.htm (http://www.bagmaster.com/cart/products/339/Pro-Shooter%27s%20Bag%20Small.htm). I only have the two in my home and do not have a safe. If I had more, I'd have no qualms on getting one.
Take this thread, talk to your buddies, folks at the range and write some Models down. Go to the range and most will let you run some lead down range, prior to buying. All we can do is suggest as many guns for you to try, but it has to come down to "fit, finish and feel" TO YOU.
Karaya
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Glock 19 is a 9mm and I would NOT recommend that caliber to depend on your life.
You think for a second split second if someone attacks you, and you shoot them with a 9mm they are going to keep attacking you?
fact of the matter is, unless someone is absolutely insane, getting shot even with a .22 will make anyone drop, just out of the shock of "ive been shot!" and or just run away. But even that's probably too far, just pulling your weapon will end the conflict instantly 99% of the time without firing a shot.
furthermore a good self defense round in 9mm will do way plenty of damage, and you will have more shots to fire than you would with a larger round in any give firearm. If a bad guy charges you and is nutts.. you can put 12 rounds of 9mm down range, vs 7 of .45 hitting them once with either will end the "threat" if its a torso or leg or head hit.
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i carry a S&W 442, 5 shot 38, snub nose. hammerless.
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:rolleyes: Oh no, not a caliber argument.
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Sig 239 .40 is hard to beat for concealed carry.
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Sig 239 .40 is hard to beat for concealed carry.
What would one of those run ya?
**Maybe I should take my own advice and look it up before I post. :uhoh lol SigSauer.com lists MSRP as $840**
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The XDm is a whole lot of gun to be lugging around.
I like a 3" Kimber Ultra Carry II. Trijicon night sights and a Crimson Trace Grip with an in-waist-band holster.
A Glock 27 is as good/better choice in some applications. I just happen to like 1911's and the .45ACP chambering.
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I carry a Sig P220 SAO 8 +1 .45. I'd recommend taking a look at a Sig P250. Not too much more than a Glock or XD would be, accurate as all get out, and a very very smooth DA trigger pull. I traded my XD .45 in on my P220. Had no problems with my XD out of about 1,200 rounds. Not one single itty bitty function problem. I loved it, and it didn't like to be babied. Until my Sig is broken in properly, it likes to be babied. I carry a .45 because they don't make a .46 :aok
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Don't go solely by the MSRP on the Sig website. The MSRP on my p220 is a bit over a $1,000. I was out the door with it for approximately $750.
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A few months back some crazy bastard walked into a coffee shop and shot four police officers to death with a 9mm pistol. The last officer alive managed to tackle the crazy guy and they wrestled for their lives, the officer managed to shoot this crazy bastard dead center at point blank range midway between the sternum and the belly button with a .40 SW. Unfortunately the officer quickley bled to death from a 9mm wound to the neck as the crazy bastard fled the scene. The crazy bastard lived for two more days eluding the largest manhunt in the history of this state before finally being shot to death by another cop armed with a 9mm pistol.
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May want to at least edit that for language Yeager, we get the point.
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Thank you all for you post, couple of points.
1. while it is true that the XDm is a little large, I am 6'5" about 275, I have very large hands. Most sub compacts and even alot of the compacts don't fit my hands well.
2. I have a permit to carry concealed, but I live in an open carry state (GA) so If it is not completely concealed it isnt a problem. My SW was a really nice gun, but cost just over 1k after holster, extra mags, etc and it was about the same size as an XDm and I never had a problem with my frame size keep it concealed.
Also, we don't have a range anywhere close to me. I would like it if we did, but except for out behind the house shooting into and old fridge filled with spray foam, there is no shooting area !
Please keep the model ideas coming, I can get ahold of most guns for test shoots at the local gun store, friend runs it and will let me take any for a couple hours to put a few rounds through them. I just have to clean the gun before I bring it back.
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FWIW, you can shoot +P out of most modern 9mm's, if you're concerned about penetration, etc.
Whatever pistol you feel comfortable with and is reliable, that's your carry weapon. I've heard good things about the XDm. If I could, I'd get one myself.
For me, I carry a S&W 5906, with 124gr +P Gold Dots. It weighs a bit more then a polymer weapon, but I'm very comfortable shooting it, and accurate with double taps.
I've shot a 9mm Glock, and it felt very 'snappy' to me -- I didn't like it as it was too light. I liked the HK USP 45 -- it was very smooth, accurate, and easy to double tap.
I used to carry my S&W 1006, but it was hard to walk around comfortably with a full frame pistol.
I carry IWB.
A full size weapon I really, really liked was the FNP-45 USG. Full size, so not easy for IWB carry, but OWB would be great.
--just saw that you are going to open carry, and that you're a big dude. Lots of choices in full frames out there. If you haven't already, check out that FNP-45 USG.
mir
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:rolleyes: Oh no, not a caliber argument.
It's not an argument, they can spew forth all they want.
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It's not an argument, they can spew forth all they want.
:lol Well as I mentioned earlier, I carry a Glock 19, so you know where I fall. :cool:
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:lol Well as I mentioned earlier, I carry a Glock 19, so you know where I fall. :cool:
Enjoy. :aok
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I like my Sig P228 and Sig P238. But I am sure some people here are going to say the 9mm and the .380 are to small of a round to defend yourself.
But honestly I never feel under gunned with either of those two. They both shoot great and I can shoot straight and hit what I am hitting with either gun. That is all that matters.
Just what ever you do pick a gun that feels right in your hands, and you can hit a target with.
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friend runs it and will let me take any for a couple hours to put a few rounds through them. I just have to clean the gun before I bring it back.
Lucky! :aok
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I purchased my Glock19 back in 1991 and have probably put close to 5000 rounds of various loads (most have been handloads) through it without a single failure. Accurate enough to hit a 5 gallon gas can at 75 yards 9 times out of ten, on a windy rainy day.
I have the utmost faith in that weapon. If I ever need it to save my life, or the lives of others, it will.
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this is my "carry gun"
http://pages.suddenlink.net/ja001son/kama.jpg
through truth be told I almost never carry it on my person (though I do have a carry permit) it generally stays in the truck unless im in a :uhoh area.
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You didn't say what the primary purpose was for the weapon, duty carry, target, CCW or just plinking and house pistol.That is important as the same gun might not be good for each use. the full size model is pretty bulky to conceal. The subcompact is more difficult to shoot well. In a Glock I find the mid size to be a good compromise as it is fairly easy to conceal and easy and accurate to shoot. The model 19 in 9mm and the 23 in 40S&W are the middle sized pistols for Glock. I carried a 19 for both on and off duty for several years since I could conceal it and I shot it very well. If I needed a smaller pistol I used a model 66 2 1/2" round butt that fit very well in my waist band.
In any case I recommend you do one thing. Find a range that has the XD40 available for rent and shoot it along with other pistols in the same category. I did that as I was thinking a subcompact XD40 was a neat handgun. I have fired many Glocks and like them as well. I found that the XD pinched the pad of my trigger finger on each shot. The trigger needed to be a fraction of an inch longer and closer to the trigger guard to be comfortable to me to shoot. I dropped it from consideration and stuck with the Glock I already have.
Another consideration is the ammo. The .40 can be a bit "snappy" with the high speed 180 gr. loads. The 135 gr.,155 gr. and 165 gr. loads are more comfortable to shoot. Unfortunately they are not as easy to find in practice ammo style as the heavier loads are.
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My favorate CCWs are a Wilson Combat .45 a Kimber Pro Carry ( 4"bbl w full size grip ) cant go wrong with it. I also carry a Sig P239 ( in 357sig ) and a Glock 23. If your looking to carry a larger full size weapon, you just need to dress to carry it. ALso Galco makes some great CCW holsters that will last you a lifetime.
If your thinking of getting a Glock, stay away from the "C" models. We did some tests on our (indoor) range using our Surefire flashlights as the only source of light, and was amazed at the amount of flash that comes out thru those ports, causing temporary night blindness ( so much so that we couldnt see the night sights clearly and get an accurate sight picture for a quick follow up shot. These were all draw and fire type senarios, where we were just doing front sight pics and aiming for center of mass. Lets just say, im glad i dont use the 23C, the results were not half as good as with any of the other weapons we were testing.
One bit of advise, and NO offense to any one that likes them, but stay away from the KelTecs. In an environment where there may be a need to have or use a firearm, i honestly think i would rather have a sharp stick. At least i know the sharp stick wouldnt fail. I have seen an number of issues with Keltecs up to and including stovepipes, feed issues, and in one case after 6 shots with factory ( fiocchi ) ball ammo one cracked along the slide rail resulting in the slide not being able to come back into battery.
Also, I would have no hesitation buying a used HK, SIG,Kimber or Glock. They are amongts the best firearms on the market. Just go hold a couple, and if you have a local indoor range that rents them, give them a whirl. I would place my life in the hands of any one of these manufactures. If its a wheel gun you like, S&W imho is the only way to go. Look around, hold some, try them out and i guarentee that you can find many really good deals on very good used firearms. One thing ive learned is that you will only have to buy quality once, and in the long run, that is cheaper.
Good luck <S> Mbailey
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Maverick's advice is best.
If this pistol is primarily for carry, don't discount a small revolver as they are cheap, simple, and quick to deploy.
Try a number of compact and sub compacts out before you settle on the XD. I`m not a huge fan of springfield`s handgun line, their QC, or their triggers for the most part. IMO a sub or compact GLock or Sig would be money far better spent, if they fit your hand etc.
I like my HK because I can SAFELY carry it "cocked and locked".
This is inadvisable at best. CARRYING a variant 3 HK pistol with the hammer back and that decocker safety engaged is not advocated by even HK`s school (I`ve been both student and instructor with their school). There are certainly times in a tactical situation where not decocking and flipping on the safety is ONE option, but it`s hardly the best. HK`s aren`t like a 1911 with a grip and other safety features backing up the thumb safety, which I`m sure everyone knows. Do what you feel comfortable with, but I`m telling you that if you were to reholster with the hammer back and safety applied on a V3 HK pistol at any reputable schools` course you would get `attention` from the instructors.
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This is inadvisable at best. CARRYING a variant 3 HK pistol with the hammer back and that decocker safety engaged is not advocated by even HK`s school (I`ve been both student and instructor with their school). There are certainly times in a tactical situation where not decocking and flipping on the safety is ONE option, but it`s hardly the best. HK`s aren`t like a 1911 with a grip and other safety features backing up the thumb safety, which I`m sure everyone knows. Do what you feel comfortable with, but I`m telling you that if you were to reholster with the hammer back and safety applied on a V3 HK pistol at any reputable schools` course you would get `attention` from the instructors.
Gman, did you work with Clint Smith? I had the pleasure of meeting him out at Thunder Ranch. One heck of a nice guy!!
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From my Cadet firearms course I can say that if you wanted a handgun I would suggest the classic browning 9mm.
Small, easy to clean and instantly fatal at close range.
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This is the weapon I used to carry. Looks like it anyways. I found this under the m&p section of SW site. I don't remember the exact model i had, but this looks like it.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=33901&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=26807&isFirearm=Y (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=33901&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=26807&isFirearm=Y)
Here is a question for you guys. Is there a way for me to look up all the firearms that have ever been registered to me? I have had a few pistols over the years, but cant remember what they all where.
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I don't leave the house without my "Kahr"
http://www.kahr.com/PA-1_9mm_pm.html
A very nice compact 9mm that is extremely easy to carry. I carry it in an ankle holster at work for a backup, and off duty. Other times off duty carry in a pocket holster, and an inside pant holster. Numerous possibilities and options.
Rob
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my choice for a carry weapon is a good old handcannon 357. magnum
(http://www.capachat.com/im/articles/capachat_colt_python-357-Magnum180343.jpg)
but if your looking for somthing a little more concealable
id go with a makarov or a a classic colt .45 acp
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I'm also in the market and have been doing my homewaork and now I think Im more confused than ever. I've narrowed it to the Glock 19, and a S&W .40 Sigma series. Any comments?
<S>majchaos
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I would go with the Glock over the XD.
Both are fine weapons, both in the same price range - I consider the Glock to be the better weapon due, primarily, to (in my experience) a seemingly otherworldly ability to function without failure no matter what the circumstances.
I think you'll find both will do this.....
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I'm also in the market and have been doing my homewaork and now I think Im more confused than ever. I've narrowed it to the Glock 19, and a S&W .40 Sigma series. Any comments?
<S>majchaos
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My personal suggestion is the Glock 19. I prefer the 9mm over .40, and although S&W makes fine guns, Glocks are unquestionably reliable.
I don't know much about it so correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't the Sigma series been having some problems?
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I don't carry, but have read a lot about carrying and have fired quite a few different kinds of handguns. For value, feel, stopping power and reliability, I think XD semiauto in .45 ACP or .40 S&W and S&W revolvers in .38+P or .357 are tough to beat. It's always a tradeoff between most comfortable shooting and most comfortable carrying.
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Has anyone had experience with the Taurus Judge? I was planning on buying the little lady her first gun, and she fell in love with it the first time she saw it. Strangly, she says she's always been afraid of guns, but I guess she's comin around :rock
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Its a whole lot of gun to lug around but it is a revolver which IMO is a big plus for newer and less experienced shooters.
Id be incined to find her something lighter, more compact and shoots a smaller cartridge (this depends on what she can handle of course) but as a car defense gun its a good choice.
Remember the mission should drive the equipment so make sure you and she put thought into what she wants to do with the gun. How she intends to incorporate it into her system whatever it may be deserves consideration also.
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Fits snugly in the ol' back pocket...
(http://joebrower.com/PHILE_PILE/PIX/RKBA_TOOLS/triple_minigun.jpg)
There's also a considerable psychological effect if one were to have this pulled on them.
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It's mainly for her home defense weapon (that's what I'd vote for Baron!), so I tried getting her to go with a nice 38spl (which I already have), but she, for some reason, really really likes the judge.
I'm guessing because it 'really pretty' (!).
Either way, I'd like to shoot it also, the pistol-shot gun idea is pretty appealing :devil
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It's mainly for her home defense weapon (that's what I'd vote for Baron!), so I tried getting her to go with a nice 38spl (which I already have), but she, for some reason, really really likes the judge.
I'm guessing because it 'really pretty' (!).
Either way, I'd like to shoot it also, the pistol-shot gun idea is pretty appealing :devil
Definitely get her to shoot it before you buy if you are able. Try some of that pistol-shot or other rounds you may use for home defense to see if she thinks she can handle it. I've never shot one so can't tell you how much the weight would help with recoil. I'm sure you know this but it would suck to get this gun for her only to find out she doesn't like the weight and feel and won't practice shooting it.
That being said, the judge I've held belonged to a woman who used it for home or vehicle defense and was a pretty good shot.
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I watched an episode of Mythbusters where a guy held The Judge (or a gun similar to it) wrong and blew his thumb off. :x
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I think that was one of the original revolvers, I've seen the same on Lock 'n' Load.
Mainly, I wanted to get an idea of what the recoil of each load, 45long & 10ga shot (even slugs). I think she'll be strong enough to handle it, I just don't want to scare her too much, also locating one around here has been difficult at best.
I keep trying to get her to go with me to the range to try my 45acp, but for some strange reason, she won't...
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I'm also in the market and have been doing my homewaork and now I think Im more confused than ever. I've narrowed it to the Glock 19, and a S&W .40 Sigma series. Any comments?
<S>majchaos
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Go with the Glock. The Sigma has some rough triggers and is nothing more than a badly done clone of a Glock anyhow. I had each and I sold the Sigma. Caliber is a whole nuther issue. Nine mm with "PREMIUM" ammo is a good choice for defensive uses. The target ammo for 9mm is cheaper and usually more available than the .40 witch is my current favorite cartridge. I like the lighter .40 loads (135, 155,165 gr) as they are less recoil, particularly in the smaller version guns like the Glock 27. About as pleasant to shoot as the 9mm.
The Glock 19 is a good compromise in that it is large enough to shoot well, decent grip length yet not hard to conceal. I carried one for both duty and off duty for several years. It wasn't hard to qualify with 300 points out of 300 on the duty course.
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my buddy at work just picked up an FN 5.7...seems real nice.
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my buddy at work just picked up an FN 5.7...seems real nice.
I really would like this gun, and the PS90. The only thing that concerns me is that FN is the only people that make ammo for it. I dont want to buy a gun and in a couple years cant buy ammo for it.
But I like the idea of the FN FiveSeven :D
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Fits snugly in the ol' back pocket...
(http://joebrower.com/PHILE_PILE/PIX/RKBA_TOOLS/triple_minigun.jpg)
There's also a considerable psychological effect if one were to have this pulled on them.
(http://www.manlyrash.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/seriously-get-off-my-lawn.jpg)
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Has anyone had experience with the Taurus Judge? I was planning on buying the little lady her first gun, and she fell in love with it the first time she saw it. Strangly, she says she's always been afraid of guns, but I guess she's comin around :rock
S&W makes the Ladysmith in 38 and 357. Designed expecially for women. Its Small, compact for carrying and a lighter trigger pull. Google it and you will find out lots of info on it. Plus its point and shoot, no mechanical safties etc......just a thought. IVe sold quite a few and have got very positive feedback from clients.
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Mbailey
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Springfield P-9 Compact or especially Subcompact in .40 cal
:aok
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I'm also in the market and have been doing my homewaork and now I think Im more confused than ever. I've narrowed it to the Glock 19, and a S&W .40 Sigma series. Any comments?
<S>majchaos
Go with the Glock. The Sigma has some rough triggers and is nothing more than a badly done clone of a Glock anyhow. I had each and I sold the Sigma. /snip
Maverick is spot on. The Sigma is nothing more than a GLOCK clone. Also there are far more accessories (lights, lasers, holsters, magazines, sights, etc) for the GLOCK than the Sigma, even though they are very similar. While many folks who have had Sigma's had no problems with reliability, they did have "issues" with gritty and/or heavy triggers. If you are set on .40, you might want to consider the GLOCK 23. Same size as the 19, but in .40.
When I was looking for my first carry pistol I also had it narrowed down to the GLOCK 19 and the Sigma. But when I held the GLOCK and Sigma I just didn't like the way they fit in my hand. Then I picked up Ruger's SR9 and it felt like Ruger had made the gun just for my hand. Needless to say the SR9 went home with me. I think it was the slimness that did it for me, the GLOCK and Sigma felt ... chunky.
However, hindsight being 20/20 I wish I had gone with something not quite so new. Holsters were difficult to come by for the first few months, and night sights are still lacking. I'm pleased with the performance, with the single exception of sight visibility. Over time (and a few 1000 rounds) the front sight has become "dirty" looking. No amount of Hoppe's #9 gets my white dot any less "dirty". I may have to resort to "repainting" it.
When you consider handgun choices, also remember you are going to want things like holsters, sights, magazines and magazine holsters. Maybe even lights and/or lasers. Oh, and invest in a QUALITY belt. It makes carrying and concealing so much easier.
Good luck with whatever you choose.
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TY all for the suggestions and food for thought. I will probably be buying the gun sometime this month, I will post whatever I get.
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For those of you that carry, how and where do you prefer to carry? I other words, what style holster, what location/position on your body, etc?
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For those of you that carry, how and where do you prefer to carry? I other words, what style holster, what location/position on your body, etc?
I carry IWB using a Crossbreed Supertuck. It's usually on my 4 or 5 o'clock.
mir
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I have a custom made one from Little Feather Leather Works in Jeffersonville In, They custom make all there Holsters and there far better than Bianchi IMO, i got turned onto them years ago by some local cowboys (yes i said it) and they had some real nice holsters so i asked who made them and they told me all about this place, anyway the pic i have (off there website) is the same one (same gun) BUT i had the gun angle changed to 45 degrees instead of horizontal or vertical style, i paid about 225 4 years ago but its comfortable and will last my lifetime. here's the link to there store they have been doing this for over 30 years http://www.littlefeatherleather.com/index.htm (http://www.littlefeatherleather.com/index.htm)
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For many years I did the "mexican carry", tucked inside the waist band of my pants in the back of my right hip. That worked well for revolver and the light Glock. The heavy Colt Officers Model tended to pull the belt down a bit and print. I have also used the fanny pack and like to use a small one that is not so obviously a holster. I do have a waist band style elastic band that is useful but uncomfortable in the summer. Inside the waistband holsters are ok but only it they have a clip to hold onto the belt otherwise they tend to come out with the gun, That can be embarrassing. A levi jacket has inside pockets that can be easily modified with a needle and thread to make a passable holster. The older and "softer" the denim the more it tends to show the piece.
More often than not I'll use the fanny pack or inside waistband as those are the two methods I have used the most and am comfortable with.
I have not found an outside the waistband holster that comes close to being concealable in everyday clothes. Even with a suit coat it shows. Under a heavy winter coat it's no big deal, until you take the coat off then it's out in the open, defeating the purpose of hiding it to begin with. If I am ccw I want it hidden, not visible to casual observation other wise it's just an open carry anyhow.
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I used to carry with an Inside the Waist Band holster just behind my right hip. I found it pretty comfortable for anything but a Beretta 92, that thing was just too lumpy for a comfortable concealed carry.
A 1911, or even better, Colt Officer was almost perfect for me.
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<S> Thanks for the useful feedback Maverick, Coshy. First hand experience is always appreciated in these matters. :salute
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I have seen nobody mention the browning HP Mk III. I know it's not one of the latest designs but I have never met anyone that had anything bad to say about the gun, in fact some people I spoke with that had upward of 40 hand guns said it was one of their favorite 9mm guns. I only own 3 hand guns so I am no expert but I love mine. Here in California getting a permit to carry is all but impossible to get. California is very very gun unfriendly.
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I have seen nobody mention the browning HP Mk III. I know it's not one of the latest designs but I have never met anyone that had anything bad to say about the gun, in fact some people I spoke with that had upward of 40 hand guns said it was one of their favorite 9mm guns. I only own 3 hand guns so I am no expert but I love mine. Here in California getting a permit to carry is all but impossible to get. California is very very gun unfriendly.
I have a Browning Hi Power in 9mm and love it it. It is after all a John Browning design. I would like too find one in .40 I've only seen one and that was some time ago when I didn't have the money to buy it.
You live in the wrong part of Cali, up here all we have to do is take and pass a concealed carry class, and of course be able to lawfully own a gun.
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I just picked up a Taurus Millenium Pro for my concealed carry weapon its a .40 cal took it shootin the other weekend and it fires really nice. I usually carry on my right hip with a inside the belt holster thinking about getting a back holster as well. I also have a Springfield XD9 great gun to go shoot and pretty comfortable to carry. I found the XD shot better and more comfortable then the Beretta 92FS that i had.
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If I had $900-ish, I'd put it down for a Para Ordnance PXT P14-45.
14+1 rounds of .45.
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If I had $900-ish, I'd put it down for a Para Ordnance PXT P14-45.
14+1 rounds of .45.
I don't think Para-Ordnance is quite the company that it used to be... Forgive me for not posting any specifics, but it seems that I have read a lot of negative stuff about Para-Ord in the past few years...