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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Avanti on March 06, 2010, 07:50:57 AM
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Just thought I would throw this out there for debate
I know how HTC is working on WWI but would like to see what people think about having a modern war arena
Personally I think this would be a good idea
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Why would it be a great idea? That just means another plane set for the limited staff to work on when they could be working on a more complete plane set for WWI and WWII...where is the fun with heat seeking and laser guided munitions that can hit a target 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 miles away with less effort than it takes to kill a tank with a full bomb load out of a Lancaster?
Nope -1
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I'm here for World War 2 era combat. For me that moment in history is fascinating and i believe the WW2 was the beginning of the end for the dogfighter.
The fight was in your face and personal. Pulling hard Gs in your P51 trying to get the 109 off your six, and looking him in the eye as he flys by guns blazing! :rock The idea of shooting a missile at a dot on my scope just doesn't get it for me. I'd rather dance with a airplane then a missile anyday :aok :salute
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Go buy LOMAC (http://lockon.co.uk/), it's less expensive than a 3 month subscription.
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I'm not asking for Modern war games, just wondering if anyone was interested If aces high had a Modern war arena
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I'm not asking for Modern war games, just wondering if anyone was interested If aces high had a Modern war arena
I'm not. Launching fire and forget missiles beyond visual range = Boring... IMHO
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not interested in the least, but thanks for sharing :aok
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BVR weopons would silly in an MMOG, Korea is about as far as my intrest could be pushed, even then Mig 15 v F86 would be difficult to get a gun solution.
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Buy one of the Thirdwire games
https://store.thirdwire.com/store.htm
I really enjoy Wings over Vietnam/Strike Fighters 2 Vietnam myself
The games are extremely moddable. There are many different mods you can install.
http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?app=downloads&showcat=2 <<the best mods
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To successfully simulate modern combat each one of us would have to spend about a year learning each airplane just to end up cruising around and pressing a button when you see a dot on the scope.
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Or we could always play Top Gun. :D
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There are only three wars in which AH2 should consider.
WW1
WW2
Korea
Why? Because it represents : the beginning, the golden age and the end of the dogfight. One with lawnmowers another with Ferraris and one with Jets.
I think Korea should be added at a later date after WW1 to make Aces High the DEFINITIVE MMO flight sim on the market. After these arena's are added and tailored to perfection, AH2 can then focus on WW2 making it perfect.
And then finally after time passes Hitech and the gang can create their masterpiece. A fully immersive flight sim encompassing all three of these conflicts with all the aircraft of AH2 and next gen graphics etc etc etc to make AH2 PERFECT ( Similar to L4D-2s function, same game but perfected )
That is the dream I think and I have a feeling it will become a reality someday :pray
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Well early Korea and Vietnam would work the saber just had 6 50cals and the MiG just had like a 2 23mm and 30mm with allot of rounds.
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Buy one of the Thirdwire games
https://store.thirdwire.com/store.htm
I really enjoy Wings over Vietnam/Strike Fighters 2 Vietnam myself
The games are extremely moddable. There are many different mods you can install.
http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?app=downloads&showcat=2 <<the best mods
Avanti,
Pannono has a great suggestion here. The Thirdwire sims are a blast. I took a break from AH about five years ago and flew Strike Fighters Project 1 and Wings Over Vietnam for a summer and fall. The on-line part of the game was limited because much like IL-2 somebody basically had to host a room to play in. However I had as much fun fighting the jets in the Thirdwire series as I've had flying WWII props in Air Warrior, Warbirds, or Aces High since 1994. In my experience, most of the fighting was done with guns. Because just like here the fights ended up on the deck where your missiles wouldn't get a good lock or went stupid once fired. So don't let the experts in here dampen any interest you may have in jet combat. The community was very friendly for the most part and was populated with a lot of talented skinners and modders when I played. Give the series a try. They now have aircraft covering from WWI to present day.
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I'm not asking for Modern war games, just wondering if anyone was interested If aces high had a Modern war arena
No. I'm more interested in AH's WW2 combat because it is pieces of living history in a fun setting. It inspires me to learn more about the different aspects of WW2 (and WW1 for that matter), hence the stash of books I am acquiring is getting bigger. :D
History is a cool subject, :cool: so long as certain events are not repeated.
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There are only four wars in which AH2 should consider.
WW1
Spanish Civil War
WW2
Korea
Why? Because it represents : the beginning, the golden age and the end of the dogfight. One with lawnmowers another with Ferraris and one with Jets.
Fixed
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To successfully simulate modern combat each one of us would have to spend about a year learning each airplane just to end up cruising around and pressing a button when you see a dot on the scope.
I'm always amazed by the ignorance shown by prop plane snobs in these threads. Even Slammers aren't perfect
and the Sparrows much less so. Very rarely is simply pushing a button accurately describe modern combat. Radars
fail, or can't pick up a target due to ground clutter or even simple pilot overload. They didn't call the AIM-7 Sparrow
"The Great White Hope" in Vietnam for nothing ya know. It was not unusual for pilots to launch some radar guided
missiles simply to force the target to turn to present a heatseeker shot.
I'm not even a big modern war fan, but would like to see a bit more logic applied in your counter arguments.
Phan the former F4-E fire control radar mech
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Modern assimilates current technology. Current technology permits one to run from a fight while firing missiles at your opponent(s).
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Accurately modeling modern avionics is probably a task beyond that of a team and budget the size of HTC's.
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I'm always amazed by the ignorance shown by prop plane snobs in these threads. Even Slammers aren't perfect
and the Sparrows much less so. Very rarely is simply pushing a button accurately describe modern combat. Radars
fail, or can't pick up a target due to ground clutter or even simple pilot overload. They didn't call the AIM-7 Sparrow
"The Great White Hope" in Vietnam for nothing ya know. It was not unusual for pilots to launch some radar guided
missiles simply to force the target to turn to present a heatseeker shot.
When I said "modern" I meant "modern" not vietnam
but would like to see a bit more logic applied in your counter arguments.
me to
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Well early Korea and Vietnam would work the saber just had 6 50cals and the MiG just had like a 2 23mm and 30mm with allot of rounds.
Korea, yes, Vietnam, no. One of the big issues hampering the US aircraft in early Vietnam was lack of a gun on the F4, as it had missiles only.
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I have to say i dont like this idea. I just think that firing missiles at each other just dosent sound fun. But Vietnam fighting would be fun.
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honestly if they took away the fire and forget missels up to 100 miles away itd be a great dogfight between modern day jets with only guns :)
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Just thought I would throw this out there for debate
I know how HTC is working on WWI but would like to see what people think about having a modern war arena
Personally I think this would be a good idea
You getting bored already needing 10 bomber formations and 40 friends to swarm bases? Dang, maybe if some of you actually challenged yourselves, you'd be happy with what we have.
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honestly if they took away the fire and forget missels up to 100 miles away itd be a great dogfight between modern day jets with only guns :)
You mean RUNNING from fights.
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well I was thinking something more along the lines of a ace combat kinda set up for those who have played it, and I made a mistake by saying modern I should have said later wars up to modern
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I would like to see vietnam but only if they had the f4 with the gun and the A-8 crusader
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You mean RUNNING from fights.
I wouldnt run...just putting in my opion
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-9000 on anything not involving WWI-WWII
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Wondering how much LESS fun the hordes would be than they already are if they were all shooting AMRAAM's at me. :)
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There are only three wars in which AH2 should consider.
WW1
WW2
Korea
Why? Because it represents : the beginning, the golden age and the end of the dogfight. One with lawnmowers another with Ferraris and one with Jets.
I think Korea should be added at a later date after WW1 to make Aces High the DEFINITIVE MMO flight sim on the market. After these arena's are added and tailored to perfection, AH2 can then focus on WW2 making it perfect.
And then finally after time passes Hitech and the gang can create their masterpiece. A fully immersive flight sim encompassing all three of these conflicts with all the aircraft of AH2 and next gen graphics etc etc etc to make AH2 PERFECT ( Similar to L4D-2s function, same game but perfected )
That is the dream I think and I have a feeling it will become a reality someday :pray
+1
and another +1 :aok