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Help and Support Forums => Aces High Bug Reports => Topic started by: viking73 on March 11, 2010, 02:57:07 AM
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after the new update, a couple of us have had something happen to our planes that never happened before. both were p38s. don't know if this is a bug or a change in the game. Nothing in the readme about it. Have had either a slight collision or small hit damage and then there is a complete loss of control of all axis and the plane crashes. Looked at wings and tail section and no visible damage. Looked at damage list and no damage to plane listed. :joystick: but could not maneuver in any direction at all. controls frozen.
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just happened again. this time was in an la7 and had a collision. no visible damage. no damage on list except 1 cannon. throttle works but no yaw,pitch, or roll. either a bug in the collision model or something has been changed on purpose.
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Do you happen to have a film of this happening?
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This just happened to me i an A6M5. Took a hit to cowl gun, aux fuel and engine oil. Lost all control of plane, no inputs worked.
I was filming when it happened but stopped the film as I didn't realize I was filming *stupid moment* got the first 20 seconds or so though, i you want it.
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The film was running at the moment this happened?
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same here, typhie oil hit then no controls, looked around and plane was intact apart from oil leak. hit cancel on the film dialog without thinking about it :(
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The film was running at the moment this happened?
Correct, leading up to, including and immediately after the event.
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Correct, leading up to, including and immediately after the event.
I'm thinking that Pyro is asking if you caught it on film to send it to HTC.
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I'm thinking that Pyro is asking if you caught it on film to send it to HTC.
Rgr, emailed it to the support address and marked it for your attention, Pyro. I caught more of it than I expected.
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after the new update, a couple of us have had something happen to our planes that never happened before. both were p38s. don't know if this is a bug or a change in the game. Nothing in the readme about it. Have had either a slight collision or small hit damage and then there is a complete loss of control of all axis and the plane crashes. Looked at wings and tail section and no visible damage. Looked at damage list and no damage to plane listed. :joystick: but could not maneuver in any direction at all. controls frozen.
Same thing happened to me twice last night, once in Tempest, once in Spit16...heard no pings on plane and all of a sudden its like my wing is gone but nothing in the red as far as damage.
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Had it happen twice in Ki-61 when 1 cowl gun gets knocked out. Plane shakes and slowly rolls into ground with no other damage.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?4tjyywjwzdy
I left the film in it's entirety to show no previous damage. 3 minutes in, i get HO-ed by spit, lose cowl gun and just lose control. Weird that film shows fuel leak and tiny fire puffs coming out. Didn't occur in real time and damage list only had cowl gun in red. you can see all surfaces are intact and it just augers in. :(
e-mail with film sent to support.
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I was on the way to drop a hanger in a P-47N a couple days ago and on the way I nosed down and all the sudden I corkscrewed into the water only person around was a friendly at 5K away and the engine sounded like a WWI plane then I got in an M model and it did the same thing I logged off put it on the forum logged back on and the bug was gone. :headscratch:
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Same thing seems happened to me while fling p51d.
And, from your info, i can say i saw others players in
those conditions afther i hit them.
:salute
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With the Ki61 I also get broken prop blades along with all of the above...take off and landing are WWI also for me
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I was 24's and lost two of my drones and took some damage on the one that was left and the whole plane was shaking in all directions, but I had control of it, if I got into a gun position the sight piper was still and everything around it shook, if I went into F4 mode as I looked at the plane from initial to when it settled in at it's normal distance from me I noticed that the propellers were momentarally stopped and then went back to normal. :headscratch:
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I had this happen to me in a K4 last night, no film though. :(
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Same thing seems happened to me while fling p51d.
did you film it? I have my film of that fight, would be useful to see film of the encounter from both FEs as I suspect each player sees different things.
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Pyro I lost a 262, Ki61, and I16 this way too. All three were non-vital part losses. Sadly I don't have any film but if it happens again I'll be sure to record.
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Might be wise to contact Toyota and see if they can shed any light on this.
Infidelz.
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Might be wise to contact Toyota and see if they can shed any light on this.
Infidelz.
Might try a thin metal shim under flight controls. ;)
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I had this happen at least twice, yesterday, Mar 12. I looked at the damage list and nothing critical was missing. I would have to say the propeller looked different, like its blade tips were broken off. I assumed this may have been a new damage feature.
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Had same thing happen as posted in the other thread. Took a oil hit in a jet from a 13mm sbd tail gun. plane shuttered and lost control of plane meaning no reaction from stick movements. Kind of like the "dont move controls rapidly" warning. Also in a CHOG i took an ail hit. again plane shuttered and lost control briefly. Another time in a jet i took gun dmg and the plane shuttered but i dont remember losing control or not that time. Though i think the losing control part sux the shutter whether accidental or not is a very cool effect especially with a ffb stick. Actually feels like something hit your plane. Figure the kinetic energy of 2 objects hitting each other at very hi velocities ought to rock the plane a bit.
Anyways I do not have film but i dont think it would help since all you would notice is the result of either crashing into the deck or us just not moving for a period of time. Would have to feel it for yourself imo.
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just happend again. took gun dmg in chog going in for ack, lost control and augered. bug has cost me 220 perks so far :(
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Is it possible that some of you were on fire? because the fire I see now last .1 sec and dissappears. After that the plane shakes and complete loss of control happens. I'm taking a big FR when someone catches on fire also, anyone else seeing this?
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I see a burst of flame and then little fireballs every few seconds. I shot down a 51 and saw the same thing, except he was short a wing. :D
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after the new update, a couple of us have had something happen to our planes that never happened before. both were p38s. don't know if this is a bug or a change in the game. Nothing in the readme about it. Have had either a slight collision or small hit damage and then there is a complete loss of control of all axis and the plane crashes. Looked at wings and tail section and no visible damage. Looked at damage list and no damage to plane listed. :joystick: but could not maneuver in any direction at all. controls frozen.
Had this happen to me today on a spit8
had a left cannon damaged
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They stated in the readme that WW1 has a new "death spiral" when a pilot is killed.
Sounds to me like that "Death spiral" is being triggered at the first onset of any damage, maybe?
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Not a spiral. More like a slow roll into the ground.
edit: rather a half roll.
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In a WW2 aircraft, maybe...
But it sounds like you lost all input, and the plane "flies on" like it does after you eject -- you can watch it slowly roll in.
I would say that if the new feature for WW1 was added, then all of a sudden "THIS" happens, perhaps one is causing the other (or they are related!).
Makes me think there's an association between "plane is dead/pilotless" and some mistake where the pilot is still in the cockpit wondering why the plane is doing this.
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In a WW2 aircraft, maybe...
But it sounds like you lost all input, and the plane "flies on" like it does after you eject -- you can watch it slowly roll in.
exactly
:cry
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along a slightly different note, i had a strange thing happen the other night. Some guy blew off my tail in my p51 and i was still able to maneuver and fly. I actually reversed the fight on him and was able to kill him. The whole time my plane was shaking like crazy, but it was still controllable. Later on that night I was flying a P38..i got hit one time, and my controls completely locked up and then my plane just blew up and i was back in the tower. It was very odd though because the time between that ping and me blowing up was about 5 seconds. During that time i had absolutely no control of my plane, but the game wasn't frozen. I was just falling out of the sky. I usually film everything but that night i just forgot to.
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I was in DA last night flying my F4U1A, at first I noticed a shake in the plane when I was slightly pulling up. The plane started to roll to the right and would not respond to my stick before I stopped pulling it back. I figured I had to calibrate my stick, so I did. But this happened several times after calibration. Sometimes it rolled right, sometimes it rolled left. But each time I was pulling the stick, not hard, just doing a smooth pull. And at the same time this accurred the plane was shaking. Then I got killed by a single ping from a 51, my controls froze completely and I went to the ground.
On another sortie I merged with another F4u, with fairly good distance making it hard for him to ho. No other planes around either. Then after the merge, I got the other F4U about 2-300 behind me and climbing, my left wing suddenly came off and stick froze again just as I was half way in my climb..
This happened so many times I got frustrated and just left the DA, but still I got no film of it even I got the Auto Film on.. You see I got this bad habit of checking cancel in the message box asking if I want to save each film only to remember afterwards I really should have saved the film.. :uhoh
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Happened last night in the LW Orange...190A8 only 2 things showed up on the damage list...aileron and cowl gun...no fire...controls locked up and plane went down in a left hand rolling dive. No film but I will start filming each sortie until the bug gets found.
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Same for me last night..damage=cowl gun and pilot wound. Result was immediate nose down attitude with shaking and no control. Indicated airspeed was zero and true airspeed was 375. Flew itself into the ground. View was not blacked out at the time. :huh
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My plane was Ta152
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Also would it be possible if I can get 230 perks or so back in my bank, as that is how much the 262 cost when I had this happen to me. :)
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I'm pretty sure that most complaints in here I'm reading can be explained that you were on fire and didnt know it. Know when ur on fire the plane shakes and you lose total control. The fire disappears immediately after you first get it and it take about 3 to 5 sec. before you break apart or blow up. Some other complaints in here I'm not sure of besides about the tail missing, you have two horizontial stabalizers now instead of one, it use to be just one component.
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Here is a film of the issue.
http://pages.suddenlink.net/ja001son/AH2/somethingwrong.ahf
in a 51B cruising over an enemy base..
I take a single ack ping to the RIGHT WING.. damage list shows 1 gun damaged, no other damage, yet I lose all input, no control of plane and it is shaking violently, then the LEFT WING (the undamaged on) falls completely off, then I catch fire, auger.
:headscratch:
had a similar instance in a DORA (no film) took a hit from a 51 as he passed head on, damage list showed right elevator damaged, total loss of input, plane shuddering really bad.. then a few seconds later the propeller shreds.. and both landing gear fall off, other random things are damaged aswell.. fire.. auger..
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You were on fire look at the video, put on pan and move it back to the tail. As you can see that one hit gave you what appears to be a gas leak and also you see the immediate fire before it goes away. You see one puff of fire then every few sec. another puff until your wing falls off.
Here is a film of the issue.
http://pages.suddenlink.net/ja001son/AH2/somethingwrong.ahf
in a 51B cruising over an enemy base..
I take a single ack ping to the RIGHT WING.. damage list shows 1 gun damaged, no other damage, yet I lose all input, no control of plane and it is shaking violently, then the LEFT WING (the undamaged on) falls completely off, then I catch fire, auger.
:headscratch:
had a similar instance in a DORA (no film) took a hit from a 51 as he passed head on, damage list showed right elevator damaged, total loss of input, plane shuddering really bad.. then a few seconds later the propeller shreds.. and both landing gear fall off, other random things are damaged aswell.. fire.. auger..
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You were on fire look at the video, put on pan and move it back to the tail. As you can see that one hit gave you what appears to be a gas leak and also you see the immediate fire before it goes away. You see one puff of fire then every few sec. another puff until your wing falls off.
thats the strange thing, in the player there is the fire puff thing.. in the game there was NOTHING just the damaged gun.. in game the fire didnt come till AFTER the wing fell off..
even if I did catch fire from the single ping ( I didnt) that doesent account for the total loss of all control of the aircraft, despite none of the control surfaces being damaged.
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since the new update you catch fire very easily and when you are on fire you loss complete contol and your plane shakes. Not sure if thats what they wanted for the update but that's what is happening.
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since the new update you catch fire very easily and when you are on fire you loss complete contol and your plane shakes. Not sure if thats what they wanted for the update but that's what is happening.
if this was done on purpose, and is going to stay like this, Im done.
But i HIGHLY doubt that is the case, I think this is a flook and was not intended.
furthermore it makes no sense, when I was in the dora a 51b hit me a few times as he passed head on and took off an aileron.. thats it... no fire nothing, the plane started shaking violently, no control AT ALL. then a few seconds later the prop broke... that makes no sense.. then the landing gear fell off.. both of them.. then auger.. no rhyme or reason
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Makes me think there's an association between "plane is dead/pilotless" and some mistake where the pilot is still in the cockpit wondering why the plane is doing this.
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This is what i think also, it has happened to me a few times, always when I'm taking nme fire though. Anyone have this happen without taking any nme fire?
I also noticed it when shooting down an nme con. After getting a head shot the red icon seemed to still be there as the con spirals down for 2-3 secs.
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Happened 3 times in a -152 to me. Single ping in the wing, total loss of aircraft control. Looked like I had bailed out, plane just turned over and rolled slowly to the ground, all three times.
:headscratch:
No idea what or how this is happening, but I will not be back until it is rectified.
Good luck, will send the film.
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along a slightly different note, i had a strange thing happen the other night. Some guy blew off my tail in my p51 and i was still able to maneuver and fly. I actually reversed the fight on him and was able to kill him. The whole time my plane was shaking like crazy, but it was still controllable. Later on that night I was flying a P38..i got hit one time, and my controls completely locked up and then my plane just blew up and i was back in the tower. It was very odd though because the time between that ping and me blowing up was about 5 seconds. During that time i had absolutely no control of my plane, but the game wasn't frozen. I was just falling out of the sky. I usually film everything but that night i just forgot to.
:rofl We can get shot to beans and still fly, but a single .303 will render us incapacitated! can't WAIT till they fix this...
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Wingnutt...I just watched your film and it is exactly what I've been seeing myself.
I went offline to see if i can duplicate it, and I can for the most part. Upped a F6F and shot down 5 drones in a row, all of them did the same thing your P51 did, except the wing didn't come off. You can do it yourself, just shoot them in the head and watch what happens...
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Got an e-mail from Skuzzy: a fix is on the way. :aok
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Got an e-mail from Skuzzy: a fix is on the way. :aok
That's great news. :salute
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Fixed a bug that caused additional damage to airplanes when a specific weapon hardpoint was damaged. This could manifest itself in the loss of flight controls, phantom fires and other non-normal damage events.
:banana:
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Awesome! It is fixed....now what about my 230 perks. :)
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Fly a C2 for 8 sorties, you'll have it back and then some
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Thanks for fixing this Hitech guys. :salute