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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Westy on March 11, 2010, 10:47:28 AM
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Anyone reading the boards today have trackir and tried it with the new WWI aircraft?
How is it? Any chance for a film of some aircombat? Actually I (bet others would too)
would enjoy seeing any kind of guncam film from anyone flying in the WWI arena
TIA! <S>
Westy
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It's 100% awesome.
Just be sure to be able to turn it off when you settle in for a kill. Whereas you could trust the gunsight in a P47, you can't here. Fixed gunsight vs reflector and all that jazz :)
But for tracking an opponent, and getting a view of the surroundings, it rules.
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I fly with TrackIr, and I keep it on even when shooting. Instead of disabling it I try to get very close before shooting.
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I keep TrackIR on all the time during flight too. Very amazing to fly with it! So fun never having to look away from the screen for anything.
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Don't turn it off. Set all axis to deadband in the middle. Then
take the pitch axis and speed it up slightly. Set a button to center
the view for when you first get to the tower. You won't need tracers
in any arena with a deadband added into the profile if you
have a good sight picture.
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Its awesome!
I find it much more useful/needed in WWI than I have found it in WWII.
It sure works with the 6-view better.
Regards,
Wab
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Yesterday I had to turn it off to actually hit anything. Today I've been turning it off when I get the con on my nose. Had a button on my hat switch programmed to forward view but couldn't quite get it yet. Still need to fiddle with some of the settings but it's extremely helpful for the mess that is SA during those furballs.
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It's great for looking around wings and such to keep sight of a baddie. I haven't had any problems at all using it with the gunnery, didn't notice any difference whatsoever there. But then I don't use the gunsight for shooting in ww2 either, so....
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It's great for looking around wings and such to keep sight of a baddie. I haven't had any problems at all using it with the gunnery, didn't notice any difference whatsoever there. But then I don't use the gunsight for shooting in ww2 either, so....
I just lean over and site down the barrel of the gun like I was shooting a rifle.
Wab
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I just lean over and site down the barrel of the gun like I was shooting a rifle.
Wab
Must work out ok for ya then, you got me a couple of times last night!
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I just lean over and site down the barrel of the gun like I was shooting a rifle.
Wab
Really? From what I could tell the sights weren't properly calibrated.
I keep mine on with no deadband in the middle.... the D7 has front & rear sights and I just walk in the rounds with the Dr 1.
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Really? From what I could tell the sights weren't properly calibrated.
I keep mine on with no deadband in the middle.... the D7 has front & rear sights and I just walk in the rounds with the Dr 1.
It seemed to work for me. At least within my overall gunnery skills. I just made sure the back site was aligned with the front site on the barrel. Good enough if you get nice and close. :D
Regards,
Wab
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Must work out ok for ya then, you got me a couple of times last night!
Lol. Well, I sprayed around enough bullets in enough directions, just by law of averages I had to eventually hit someone.
:rock,
Baron VonFluffnBunny
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Yup, gotta luv that TIR. I recorded some footage last night, but not much during combat. I'll have some tonight and post it up on YouTube later.
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Really? From what I could tell the sights weren't properly calibrated.
I keep mine on with no deadband in the middle.... the D7 has front & rear sights and I just walk in the rounds with the Dr 1.
Actually, with the DRI I remember now I was pretty much just using the "Force". Maybe it was longer shots I was barrrel siteing. I dunno. Its was all such a blur!
Wab
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I've tried trackir a few times, and I just can't seem to get it.
Hat views just keep coming up as quicker and more efficient , whether it be for scanning the sky (SA) or for positioning views in a dogfight.
Does trackir make you more effective do you think ? or does it just feel more immersive ?
The other problem is my 2 favourite planes have woeful 6 views with trackir - but i'll leave that aside.
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I've tried trackir a few times, and I just can't seem to get it.
Hat views just keep coming up as quicker and more efficient , whether it be for scanning the sky (SA) or for positioning views in a dogfight.
Does trackir make you more effective do you think ? or does it just feel more immersive ?
The other problem is my 2 favourite planes have woeful 6 views with trackir - but i'll leave that aside.
It certainly takes some getting used to.
In WWII, I was begining to wonder if it was worth it. Mainly to the problems I had with the 6-view. Hat switch actually seemed to work better there.
But in WWI, it flat out rocks in IMHO.
I will try making some fraps recordings if my frame rate will handle it. Iwas going to for a squadie anyway.
Regards,
Wab
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I've tried trackir a few times, and I just can't seem to get it.
Hat views just keep coming up as quicker and more efficient , whether it be for scanning the sky (SA) or for positioning views in a dogfight.
Does trackir make you more effective do you think ? or does it just feel more immersive ?
The other problem is my 2 favourite planes have woeful 6 views with trackir - but i'll leave that aside.
I don't think it makes me any more effective at all. It is certainly more immersive, and you just have a smoother, more natural feeling flying around and looking at stuff than you do using hats. I used hats for absolutely years, but I took right to the TIR. It took my thumb a couple of weeks to let go of habits, and another two months to get the gunnery back down after switching, but I do completely love it. I don't really have any problems with 6 views, not once I got my profile tweaked up properly. The only real problem that I have is that plate at the top of Corsairs. I can see my 6 just fine, but looking directly up during a fight is a pain, I have to lean forward and/or to the side to see the con and it's distracting. I can still do it, but I end up focusing less naturally on flying and acm because I become aware of trying to see the con. It stops just being totally natural and organic.
I agree with Wabbit about the usefulness of TIR in ww1, it's fantastic. I still love it in ww2 (not to mention all the extra buttons I get on my stick with it!) but I think it's essential in ww1. You've got to see around so much structure in there.
Wab, please do post some fraps vids.
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Lol now I have seen it all "Baron Von Fluffy bunny" you owe me a new keyboard... Spewed my beer all pover it laughing so hard..
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A short 16mb clip, unedited raw TrackIr footage from the WWI arena: http://www.mediafire.com/?nyz15ominxj
You see me shooting with TIR fully enabled. (Film length ~2 minutes)
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A short 16mb clip, unedited raw TrackIr footage from the WWI arena: http://www.mediafire.com/?nyz15ominxj
You see me shooting with TIR fully enabled. (Film length ~2 minutes)
Sweet.
So that's what the gauges are supposed to look like.
Nice shooting.
Re: Aim. I use the X where the wires cross between the guns to aim.
wrongway
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I fly with TrackIr, and I keep it on even when shooting. Instead of disabling it I try to get very close before shooting.
this
I expected to have issues with aiming due to no reflector sight and the inconsistent head position inherent to using TIR, but hasn't really been a problem...
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OK, well I suck at making movies. :lol
Sorry for the size and quality. Its my first try.
http://www.youtube.com/v/OWeCd9XFNYE (http://www.youtube.com/v/OWeCd9XFNYE)
Wab
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WWI very much.... no just like AW.
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Hi, I'm shuffler, and I'm going to spam every WW1 thread.
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I use TrackIR and I find I can fly with the view zoomed in and still keep perspective with it, I like alot with the WWI kites.
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Actually, with the DRI I remember now I was pretty much just using the "Force". Maybe it was longer shots I was barrrel siteing. I dunno. Its was all such a blur!
Wab
The cross-bracing wires on the DR 1, just in front of the pilot, between the two guns, seem to create a fairly effective sight. :aok
Best.
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Ah HAH! I was wondering why the heck I couldn't hit anything! That'll take some getting used to.
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Here's some combat footage. Don't laugh at my piloting suckage :D. At the end, it's good to know that the "get a kill no matter what" mentality of the Mains is still alive and well :huh. All footage was filmed with Fraps to capture the sights and sounds from the cockpit while using TrackIR. I use TIR4 hardware with the ProClip and TIR5 software.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tUokWwjjz8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tUokWwjjz8)
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The crossed wire over the hood was the gun sight. The bracing wires just happened to cross about where a ring sight would have been mounted unlike the D.VII. I have TrakIR 3 set to DOT Tracking. I never have a problem aiming while looking through WW2 reflector sights or the new WWI fixed ring sights. Wait to shoot inside of 200yds and you can't miss. I'll use full zoom to watch the hit sprites so I can walk them into the cockpit.
It will be nice when everyone realises you cannot fly the WWI birds like WW2 birds and stop pulling back into each other for a collision as an excuse for a reversal. Everyone is trying too hard to make fast moves trying to force overshoots, sissors, rapid wiggles to spoil aim, merge as close as possible and adfinitum. Nothing happens very quickly between 50-100 mph. Players are yanking thier sticks so hard to make turns that they stop their planes in mid air and make them fall out of the sky. I keep watching players try to duck under your guns at the last moment during a crossing merge causing collisions between their upper wing and your landing gear. It would be nice if we fought starting at 5k instead of WWI Air Quake Tourny at 50ft on down into the bushes. None of us are really getting a chance to utilise the real virtical strengths of our WWI rides or really rip the wings off.
Half the time when I see two go vertical on the deck, one of them always tries to pull back and into the other con over the top trying to get a guns sollution. Its that pulling back into the other con that causes a slow motion collison. HiTech really needs to put herds of those cast Iron sheep in the WWI arena to force us to actually fly the planes instead of playing madd weed whackers with them in the bushes.
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"Hi, I'm .....going to spam every WW1 thread. "
Yup. did so when they made the announcment iwas coming. All that crying is
why I "read" his handle as "Sniffler" now.
Thank you ALL for the great posts about trackIR ad even more so for the awesome
videos! Imadot you've got one heck of a pc for graphics like that and nice flying!
I thought trackir would really be a benefit and enhance flying WWI crates.
See you all online very soon!
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