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Title: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: Fencer51 on March 14, 2010, 07:43:56 PM
Werner Voss, Jasta 10, September 1917.

If you don't know who this guy is, you really need to read up on one of the best fighter pilots of all time.

I have a "Greyer" version of this as well.. but this seems to fit the descriptions I have best.  The yellow nose is controversial.  Some think yellow some think olive.  Its about 50-50 and there is evidently evidence both ways.

Not sure I am finished with the weathering.  There is a bug where "red" shows up on the wing supports at some angles externally.

(http://www.51hangar.net/WW1/Voss0.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/WW1/Voss1.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/WW1/Voss2.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/WW1/Voss3.jpg)

Shot below was before final weathering..

(http://www.51hangar.net/WW1/Voss4.jpg)
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: SIK1 on March 14, 2010, 07:48:50 PM
One of my favorites.

Nice work Fencer.  :aok
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: Rauch on March 14, 2010, 08:50:15 PM
Voss truly was one of the greatest ever.  His last battle is the stuff of legends. 

Very nice skin Fencer!
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: 007Rusty on March 14, 2010, 09:21:25 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: Krupinski on March 14, 2010, 09:56:10 PM
Very nice!  :aok
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on March 14, 2010, 10:22:21 PM
looking good  :aok
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: Megalodon on March 15, 2010, 11:43:21 AM
Here are some pics seams the face is a little off and it dosen't look to me that the nose is yellow and  a few other things.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fokkerdr1.com/images/Fokker%2520F.I%2520103%252017%2520Voss%2520Temporary%2520Headrest.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fokkerdr1.com/103_17.htm&usg=__wBTjsPPBsHSQQzLykxE7FJtGJ98=&h=701&w=1000&sz=200&hl=en&start=8&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=8zoRL0a7QyXmiM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=149&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwerner%2Bvoss%2Btriplane%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1 (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fokkerdr1.com/images/Fokker%2520F.I%2520103%252017%2520Voss%2520Temporary%2520Headrest.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fokkerdr1.com/103_17.htm&usg=__wBTjsPPBsHSQQzLykxE7FJtGJ98=&h=701&w=1000&sz=200&hl=en&start=8&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=8zoRL0a7QyXmiM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=149&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwerner%2Bvoss%2Btriplane%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o85/Boneheadart/voss.jpg)
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: Fencer51 on March 15, 2010, 12:13:58 PM
Finn,

The yellow chromate shows up on film as "dark".  Hence the long argument by historians.  Looks like the reference I had for the eyes was a tad low on the holes, I will move them up.  The brows look different as well...

Also the amount of "lubricant" thrown by the engine stained the front of the fusalage, I am still playing with how to show that.

Also, most of those pics are out of Norman Franks books, but are larger than I had, thanks for the link!
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: warphoenix on March 15, 2010, 01:06:40 PM
very nice! I can't wait to dogfight with the plane of a legend!  :aok
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: gyrene81 on March 15, 2010, 01:36:03 PM
Man you guys are very ambitious.

Fencer I noticed on some of the pics in that link show a satin gloss look to the paint in some areas...is that the effect of engine oil or the paint?
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: Megalodon on March 15, 2010, 02:38:54 PM
Finn,

The yellow chromate shows up on film as "dark".  Hence the long argument by historians.  Looks like the reference I had for the eyes was a tad low on the holes, I will move them up.  The brows look different as well...

Also the amount of "lubricant" thrown by the engine stained the front of the fusalage, I am still playing with how to show that.

Also, most of those pics are out of Norman Franks books, but are larger than I had, thanks for the link!

Fence,

There is one pic on that page that looks like it could be yellow maybe it was painted at a later date.
(http://www.fokkerdr1.com/images/Fokker%20F.I%20103%2017%20Voss%20Fokker%202.jpg)

Some say the tail was yellow. The mustache is a little thicker as well and no curve in the bottom portion of the eye.

Also, the Pic I referenced is from one of Alex Imeri's books "Fokker Fighters:Vintage Warbirds No.6", your welcome anytime I can help.
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: TonyJoey on March 16, 2010, 10:11:51 AM
Looks great, probably my favorite WW1 skin of all time. I kind of like the greyer one, with olive nose, but thats just my preference.  :aok
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: Fencer51 on March 19, 2010, 10:41:19 PM
Updated face art and I changed the cowling to olive, I think I like it better.  Opinions?

(http://www.51hangar.net/WW1/Voss5.jpg)
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: Banshee7 on March 19, 2010, 10:46:05 PM
I think it looks much better!
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: TonyJoey on March 19, 2010, 11:50:47 PM
Love the Olive. Great Skin Fencer :rock

 :salute
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: SIK1 on March 20, 2010, 01:59:58 AM
I think the pilot is still an ugly bugger....

Oh the face on the cowl.... Looks great. I'm not sure if which I like more the yellow, or the olive.
Either way it's a great skin.
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: warphoenix on March 20, 2010, 05:15:39 PM


Updated face art and I changed the cowling to olive, I think I like it better.  Opinions?

(http://www.51hangar.net/WW1/Voss5.jpg)
looks like it does on dogfights!  :aok
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: NaTorino on March 21, 2010, 10:30:55 AM
were is zee heart on zee fuselage? skin looks great voss and baron were very close lads  :salute
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: Treize69 on March 21, 2010, 12:40:31 PM
His Albatros had the heart, not his Fokker.
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: perdue3 on March 22, 2010, 09:14:20 AM
looks great Fencer. Glad you took the advice on olive vs. yellow unlike some skinners on the forums  :D
Title: Re: Werner Voss - Fokker F1 103/17
Post by: Megalodon on March 31, 2010, 11:46:10 PM
looks great Fencer. Glad you took the advice on olive vs. yellow unlike some skinners on the forums  :D

The eybrows are tipped up more or slanted and closer together .....makes it look mean or angry  :aok
(http://www.fokkerdr1.com/images/Fokker%20F.I%20103%2017%20Front%20View.jpg)
I really like the olive and I'm sure you will get the staining correct.

Baumer has posted a piece of fabric that is interesting as your 2 plane are fairly close in number/factory paint.

It looks nice Fence.
 :salute